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Death Machine

If Stephen Norrington had only ever been a special effects guy he still would’ve made a mark. He worked under Dick Smith, Rick Baker, Stan Winston and Jim Henson. He did the Grand High Witch makeup in THE WITCHES, and designed creatures for Jim Henson’s The Storyteller. He played the Gump in RETURN TO OZ. He helped make the aliens in ALIENS and ALIEN 3, the robot in HARDWARE, the creature in SPLIT SECOND. I only know about him, though, because he later directed four movies, one of which was motherfuckin BLADE.

But the first one was DEATH MACHINE (1994), a low budget killer robot movie I watched once about a quarter of a century ago when I found out it was by the guy who did BLADE. I think I thought it was okay, but I retained no details in my memory, so now I have returned to it via the fancy-ass special edition blu-ray from Kino Lorber. I watched the director’s cut (which is 106 minutes, as opposed to the 100 minute U.S. version or 122 minute foreign version), which may or may not have been why it went over a little better this time. I don’t think it’s a great movie, but it’s an interesting one with a cool robot puppet, a cyberpunk world and a hell of a look for a ‘90s b-movie that went straight to video. Cinematographer John de Borman is the guy who did THE PASSION OF DARKLY NOON and THE FULL MONTY, but from the look of it I’d have assumed he was a music video guy, somebody that would’ve worked with the Scott Brothers or Russell Mulcahy or even David Fincher.

The opening reminds me of NEMESIS and the UNIVERSAL SOLDIER movies. Cop-types in armor marked “A.R.P.” arrive at a diner out in the dusty desert somewhere. There are bodies piled up, everybody’s dead except for “the ultimate soldier” in cybernetic armor malfunctioning and unable to stop punching holes in a restroom wall while a woman cowers, crying, next to the urinal. They recover the soldier and cover up the incident, but it’s yet another scandal for Chaank Armaments Corporation, whose motto is “Hard technology for a hard world.” Their skyscraper headquarters downtown is already mobbed with protesters and reporters. If it was now nobody would be able to do or say shit to these guys and the media would fawn over them and regurgitate every word of their press releases without an eyelash of verification or skepticism. It’s kind of sad when a near-future dystopia seems naively optimistic next to today’s actual reality.

I guess we weren’t as cynical as we thought we were in the ’90s. DEATH MACHINE gets that corporations are evil, but allows for the possibility that a good guy would somehow become joint-CEO and try to do the right thing. That’s Hayden Cale (Ely Pouget, L.A. TAKEDOWN, LAWNMOWER MAN 2), who’s brought in as a P.R. move to balance out the other top guy, who can be spotted as a slimy yuppie scumbag from outer space, without a telescope. I thought I recognized him from playing characters like this but holy shit, that’s Richard Brake, who I know in his later, more weathered form in horror movies including but not limited to MANDY, 3 FROM HELL and BARBARIAN. Also he was Joe Chill, he killed Thomas and Martha Wayne in BATMAN BEGINS. The guy that begun Batman.

Here his character is named Scott Ridley, so… yep, this is one of those movies that I always complain about where a bunch of characters are named after the same (mostly horror) directors we all like. This one has major characters named John Carpenter and Sam Raimi, which I guess back then qualified as an obscure reference. There’s not one named after the director the movie seems most indebted to – James Cameron – but instead they have a Weyland and a Yutani, which is arguably worse. Also there’s a Jack Dante but I don’t know if that one’s necessarily named after Joe Dante. Everybody knows Dante is a cool last name to use regardless.

Dante is played by Brad Dourif (SPONTANEOUS COMBUSTION) and he’s the mad scientist behind all the dangerous programs that Cale wants to cancel. He seems to live in the building, in a cluttered chamber decorated with graffiti, Playboy centerfolds, Thundercats and Masters of the Universe action figures, weird drawings and TV screens showing security feeds, porn and cartoons, including one of those fictional ones that’s just violence and sound effects and seemingly drawn quickly by some friend of the production. He doesn’t call this his lab, he calls it “my room,” and he dresses like he’s trying to be in the movie HACKERS, with long hair, ripped jeans, leather duster, and (why not?) metal claws.

When Cale tries to eject him from the building he says, “But I’m having so much fun here, you know? There’s loads of… stuff.” The stuff includes the titular machine of death that he calls “The Warbeast” or “Frontline Morale Destroyer,” a rampaging mechanical monster we sometimes see in full, sometimes just through its POV shots, or as snapping jaws and slashing claws.

Meanwhile, the building is being infiltrated by militants who would fit in either on Max Headroom or as creeps in DEATH WISH 3. Weyland (Andreas Wisniewski, who was in THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS, DIE HARD and MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE – not bad!) stays in the truck, while Yutani (Martin McDougall, JUDGE DREDD, BELLY OF THE BEAST) and Raimi (John Sharian, THE FIFTH ELEMENT, LOST IN SPACE) go in with machine guns. Both are kinda punk; Raimi has sort of a Valley dude or surfer type of lilt, while Yutani wears face paint, has a weirdly shaved head and does samurai moves with his knife.

They plan to kidnap both CEOs and force them to unlock the containment unit to erase their files and bankrupt the company. When they get there the Warbeast has already shredded Ridley, so they settle for asshole executive John Carpenter (William Hootkins – Porkins from STAR WARS!). He causes trouble but then the machine reaches through the floor of the elevator they’re in and munches him.

So it becomes a fight for survival with these guys who originally seemed like stock bad guys teaming with Cale to not only escape but stop the thing before it kills others. One problem: they’re not actually there to kill people. Their guns are full of blanks. They do have some explosives, though.

There are some horrific sci-fi concepts I enjoyed. As an employee Cale has a life sign transmitter implanted in her wrist that Dante uses to follow her, so she cuts it out with a knife. Nasty! She figures out that the company is keeping tanks full of injured war vets whose memories they erase and then they use them as super soldiers. Awfully close to UNIVERSAL SOLDIER, but that’s okay.

Cale heroically plans to risk wearing one of the Project Hardman suits to fight the Warbeast, but Raimi insists on doing it, so his mind has to get downloaded onto a disc and he becomes an automaton. There are many opportunities for him to get his brain fried, but she sticks with him and makes sure he gets out of there safely. Somebody’s gotta do it – they try calling the police for help but the officer (who for some reason answers the phone himself?) first calls him a liar on the video phone, then shows up but thinks he’s the bad guy and shoots him. I’m unclear why Cale doesn’t try to intervene and use her CEO privilege, but it’s okay – the Warbeast jumps from the roof of the building onto the cop and squooshes him like a bug. Good scene.

I think there’s a miscalculation in the portrayal of Raimi. When he becomes the cyborg he’s supposed to be a little scary but he sounds goofy like he’s kinda making fun of the whole situation. Maybe they shoulda added some distortion to his voice to make him less human. I also have trouble believing in the character of the heroic CEO, and the only background we get on her is a weird reveal that she used to be a nude model (recognized by Dante because he’s a porn fiend). Fortunately Pouget has a strong presence and they give her Ripley moments not in the usual ways movies try to copy Ripley (after all she doesn’t even get to use her version of the Power Loader) but in just being knowledgeable and serious and making persuasive arguments of what to do in a harrowing situation.

The Warbeast is kind of the star of the movie. In one of the featurettes I watched they say that Norrington actually built it and brought it to Cannes (or one of those film markets) to get funding. It’s kind of silly looking at times, especially in one of the walking shots, but for the most part it’s so cool to see this huge mechanical xenomorph thing gnashing and wailing and chomping.

But it was the whole look and feel of this world that most drew me in this time. There are so many movies about a whatever loose in a building where it’s just a generic interior like any other. This is more of that MTV school of filmmaking where the lighting is always exquisite and the design is always a little off-kilter ‘cause it’s the near future.

This is what the board room looks like, for example:


Never too bright. Even in the middle of a meeting it kind of looks like it’s after hours and they’ve turned off some of the lights.

Then the higher they get in the building and the deeper they get into battle with the Warbeast the more it looks like a James Cameron movie. These are frames overflowing with concrete and steel surfaces, flickering fluorescent lights, girders, hatches, sparks, welding torches, cigarette smoke, flames, wireframe animations, light beams, grainy video screens, heat vision, pouring rain. The fight against the machine is extensive and well executed, there’s an excellent plummeting platform elevator sequence, some nice model work, a little bit of stop motion I think, and it’s all made more intense by an outstanding score by Crispin Merrell (Space Precinct).

It really is rare for a non James Cameron movie to feel this James Camerony. Norrington must’ve been taking notes on the set of ALIENS. Both were filmed at Pinewood Studios, too.

This was a debut for more than just Norrington. First time art director Susan Whitaker went on to do BATMAN BEGINS, X-MEN FIRST CLASS, and FURIOUS 6. And Rachel Weisz made her big screen debut here playing “Junior Executive.” (She must be in the board room scene, but I couldn’t tell which one was her.)

I wonder if they ever considered Norrington for directing an ALIEN movie. Or did this just make the choice too on the nose? It definitely seems like the kind of first film that might get you recruited for a big studio sequel. Luckily he did BLADE instead, and that was what got him attached to movies including GHOST RIDER, THE HANDS OF SHANG-CHI: MASTER OF KUNG FU produced by Ang Lee, live action AKIRA, the CLASH OF THE TITANS remake, the THE CROW remake (which he said was going to be done with quasi-documentary realism), a WWII monster movie called LOST PATROL. But none of those happened, at least not with him, some say he’s retired, and that would explain why I haven’t read about him since the aughts. But hey man – Shane Black disappeared for nine years between THE LONG KISS GOODNIGHT and KISS KISS BANG BANG. Comebacks are possible.

I have now reviewed all of Norrington’s movies: DEATH MACHINE, BLADE, THE LAST MINUTE and THE LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN. On that last one I went from hating it at the time to being surprised how much I enjoyed it years later. I need time to change. So Norrington has an “I’ll be interested to see what this guy does next” debut, a flat out all timer perfect masterpiece upon which our very culture is built sophomore film, a small personal one I thought was kinda interesting but didn’t really get, and a would-be franchise-starter fiasco that in retrospect is kind of awesome. I can’t wait to see where he goes from there. Actually I can, I’ve been doing it for more than 20 years. Where’d he go? Anybody have eyes on him?

Since he only has four movies as a director I’m prepared to consider him still officially and up and coming talent. Stephen Norrington, you are requested to make another movie. Hollywood, I’m gonna need you to give the man a bunch of money and then go sit in the corner facing the other way wearing headphones. Thank you.

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23 Responses to “Death Machine”

  1. I’ve been meaning to rewatch this for a while now, but I’m kinda scared it doesn’t hold up. Back in the VHS and late night TV era, that was one of those “Holy shit, where did that movie come from!?” hidden gems. Kick ass action, at times surprisingly gruesome, but also with a healthy dose of quirky humor. Even the “Characters named after directors” gimmick was still fresh (although not new).

    Apparently Norrington’s BLADE gig came from Wesley Snipes being a huge fan of this one, judging by the pull quote of him on the back of one of the video releases.

  2. I rewatched this a few months ago and thought it was better than the first time. Enough time has passed that its derivativeness has gone from sorta cringe to kind of adorable. It’s very heart-on-its-sleeve dorky about its slavish devotion to a very specific moment in time’s idea of sci-fi cool. It would probably all fall apart if it wasn’t done with a level of technical sophistication that balances out its fanboy fawning. The look is great, the monster is well realized, the William Gibsonisms are adequately approximated, and my man Brad Dourif is tearing up more scenery than the robot is. I’ve never particularly liked BLADE so I gotta call this one my favorite Norrington joint.

  3. Having seen neither film, I can’t say for sure, but isn’t there at least a passing resemblance between the designs of the Warbeast and the Wild Robot?

    While I’m here, I’d like to wish a belated Happy New Year to Vern and all the commenters and lurkers out there in Outlawvern Land!

  4. I feel like Andreas Wisniewski’s credit in one episode of TV’s MANN & MACHINE is relevant here.

    Plus, Yancy Butler.

  5. I do adore this one. It’s maybe a little dumber than I’d prefer (the gag early on where the characters are all smoking ridiculous looking joints really sets the tone) but everyone is having a good time and honestly it’s probably my favorite puppeteering in cinema? The warbeast just moves in a really cute way.

  6. Rachel Weisz is the character at the end of the boardroom scene who warns the main character about something and then is never seen again. She has an eyebrow ring.

  7. Ely Pouget really is a strong heroine. Death Machine is a fun that I had to re-visit soon.

  8. By 1994 Sam Raimi and John Carpenter weren’t exactly obscure cult figures anymore, were they? By then Raimi had made DARKMAN and Carpenter was the founding influence on literally every contemporary Hollywood horror movie that wasn’t based on George Romero instead. So I’m surprised they thought they could get away with giving fictional characters those directors’ first AND last names.

    If the movie and/or script had been in development since the mid-1980s or earlier it would be more understandable. To me it’s the difference between naming a character “Peter Jackson” in the 1990s and still doing so by the time FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING was recent.

    “TV screens showing security feeds, porn and cartoons, including one of those fictional ones that’s just violence and sound effects and seemingly drawn quickly by some friend of the production.”

    -I’m a sucker for that aesthetic. ROCK & RULE also has a demented TV cartoon within the movie, which is impressive since that feature is itself animated (in a very different style), and because that briefly glimpsed cartoon predicts the Beavis & Butthead / Sick & Twisted aesthetic that became big in the early 1990s but which I didn’t think was anywhere to be found yet in 1983. FREDDY GOT FINGERED also has a weird “alternative” cartoon show. I guess it’s a way for somebody to indulge their id without having to make an entire movie or show in that vein.

    So now I’m interested in this movie, especially after the additional information that Brad Dourif a) is in this and b) is dressed like a HACKERS character. Nostalgia for 1990s grungy trash is way overdue.

  9. In the same way that Dan Stevens played Sharlto Copley in KONG <3 GODZILLA (thank you, Mr Majestyk, for pointing this out and adding immeasurable satisfaction to my viewing), is Brad Dourif pretty much giving Norman Reedus the blueprint for his entire visual aesthetic with his portrayal of Jack "Joe" Dante?

  10. You must’ve seen the new cover. I really thought that was Norman Reedus on there.

  11. I have a fondness for William Hootkins that extends beyond his Porkins/Major Eaton work for Lucas, as he was one of those American actors who lived in London and routinely turned up in British TV and films of my childhood playing, well, Americans. Others include Don Fellows, Ed Bishop and Shane Rimmer (actually a Canadian); pretty much all of them appear in Robert Aldrich’s TWILIGHT’S LAST GLEAMING (filmed in Bavaria) and the BBC’s version of Oppenheimer.

    The British fantasy writer Jasper Fforde – think Terry Pratchett with more literary references – worked on DEATH MACHINE, as well as many other 90s favourites (and HIGHLANDER II: THE QUICKENING!), as a focus puller. He reports that it was a very unhappy set made bearable by the bonhomie of Hootkins who would entertain the crew with well polished tales of his adventures with George Lucas.

  12. The most surprising thing is that the movie –very presciently, as it would turn out– does not side with Dourif’s stunted man-child suddenly empowered by technology with godlike abilities to fuck with the lives of people who usually wouldn’t give him the time of day. So many early hacker movies seem to consider techno-wizardry to be a setup for a wish-fullfillment power fantasy for rejected weirdos; DEATH MACHINE correctly pegs this guy as a narcissistic, misogynist creep, and an appropriate antagonist for our plucky heroine (Ely Pouget, THE RIFT, LAWNMOWER MAN II: BEYOND CYBERSPACE). In 2025, this actually adds a little bite to what is otherwise a fairly standard (if overbuilt) killer robot flick, and the movie ends up paying it off satisfactorily. You fuckin’ KNOW Elon Musk has guys working on a Warbeast Death Machine even as we speak. Gotta appreciate a movie from this era which correctly foresaw that the Revenge Of The Nerds was not actually something we should aspire to.

  13. In all fairness, the movie seemed to be more concerned about the modernization and privatization of warfare, than trying to paint computer wizards as incels. While I make DEATH MACHINE probably sound deeper than it is and ever was supposed to be, it’s more a post Desert Storm “Oh shit, what are they gonna come up with next and who are these assholes who work on that?” SciFi concept than “Tech geniuses look more like Brad Dourif in a wig than Matthew Broderick” cautionary tale.

    I can imagine that it sadly does have aged very well in that aspect.

  14. After rewatching it (The 117 minutes European cut aka “the old director’s cut”) I have to say that it really mostly holds up. There are a bunch of moments that reek of “First time director tries hard to be stylish”, but once Richard Brake (who looks here like a Brundlefly between Jake Busey and Julian Sands) gets chased through the building, you know that Norrington wasn’t half-assing his debut. Gotta check out the new director’s cut at some point, because as much as I like the movie, some trimming might only help it.

    Also I think it’s interesting that in a genre, that often oversexualizes its female protagonists, our heroine here spends most of the movie in extremely comfy looking pajamas, with a white shirt that didn’t even get transparent when he spent some time in the rain. But I feel like Norrington definitely went for a Ripley/Sarah Connor feel with her.

    Random observation: William Hootkins now got killed by two war robots (The first time was when he played the pervy neighbour in HARDWARE.)

    My point is: it was clear that Stephen Norrington would go on to get at least one big shot at a bigger Hollywood movie and Ely Pouget deserved a bigger career.

  15. The new cut is the best version, but I do miss the original slam-bang track that accompanied the end credits of the previous cuts.

    As for Norrington’s whereabouts, he actually popped in the Blu-ray.com forum (answering questions through another poster) for DEATH MACHINE. TL;DR – He’s in post on a new film, but because it’s on his own dime and time, there’s no release date set in stone.

    If you want to read for yourself, you can start here: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=360180&page=10 but I’ll commit the sin of text-walling his posts (and questions leading to his responses) to save you guys the whole click-and-search deal:

    Re: Various edits of DEATH MACHINE

    ORIGINAL DIRECTOR’S CUT AKA FOREIGN CUT
    this is the full length (IMHO horribly overlong) Original Director’s Cut that was delivered to the financiers/distributors in 1993 – it was produced by Dominic Anciano, Ray Burdis, Jim Beach, Matthew Justice and me – it was screened for the cast and crew

    UK DVD CUT
    the Original Director’s Cut was deemed too long by the UK financiers/distributors so I personally edited a shorter version that became the UK DVD Cut – the original materials for the UK DVD Cut are lost in time – the only record of that cut is the UK DVD/VHS, neither of which I reviewed when I created the 2024 Director’s Cut this year – however the opening scene may be similar because I addressed the re-edit for the 2024 version with the similar goal of moving things along faster

    TURBINE GERMAN RELEASE
    this is the same cut as the Foreign Cut aka Original Director’s Cut – however, the Turbine German Release was a new transfer of an original internegative, nicely done by Turbine (I was not involved) with very nice colour grading – personally I think this is the best-looking transfer

    JVC JAPANESE LASERDISC CUT
    this is (I think) identical to the Original Director’s Cut – however, the colour grading may not be the same as the UK DVD Cut or the Turbine German Release – the Japanese distributor had an internegative so may well have made colour adjustments when encoding for the laserdisc – I don’t know who produced the laserdisc

    TRIMARK US THEATRICAL CUT
    this is somewhat misnamed because, as far as I know, the movie was never released theatrically in the states – the US Theatrical Cut was created by Trimark in-house, I was not involved, I don’t know who did it and what their aims were – my guess is that it was the work of executives tasked with making the movie more suitable for the US home video market – IMHO it’s an overly-truncated mess, made worse be a cheap one-light transfer (in a 1.85:1 aspect ratio) that had horrible colour and weak pan-and-scan, leading to many scenes having people’s faces half out of frame – the new transfer for the Kino-Lorber release improves the US Theatrical Cut a lot simply by being a nicely graded 2.39:1 aspect ratio but it’s still been edited with a chainsaw, not a scalpel

    2024 DIRECTOR’S CUT
    this can be considered the definitive cut, director approved, moves along like a missile, nice colour, super-elevated soundtrack, correct aspect ratio, finally in great shape and fun! – I personally produced this new cut and worked with Michael Felsher to re-edit it using the German Turbine prorez master as a source – pretty much every scene was tweaked to some extent – I worked with Paul Rabjohns to completely overhaul the soundtrack – we created a new 7.1 audio mix with tons of new sound effects and 17 minutes of new music – I also created a bunch of new VFX to facilitate the re-edit – in places I used VFX to improve the existing visuals – the aim of the 2024 cut was to hugely speed things up, remove a ton of overwrought bathos and emphasize fun stuff – Paul and I fixed tonal issues with the original music – basically we kept the cues that worked and replaced overwrought cues with new music that is less abrasive, more cinematic

    Regarding the 2024 DIRECTOR’S CUT
    the new cut isn’t intended to supersede the previous versions, I just the one I like best and it does have great sound – I know how annoying it is to have one’s beloved cut of a given movie made unavailable by the orig director (Star Wars anybody?) so I insisted to Kino-Lorber that their release should offer the three version – that way everyone can have the version they like the best

    Regarding Stephens UPCOMING PROJECTS
    I think Stephen Dorff said somewhere I was working on an animated movie that was going to take 10 yrs to finish and someone else said I was working on a stop motion project – the truth is, after LoEG I bailed out of my old life and partied for a decade, went to Burning Man ten times and enjoyed an amazing string of non-movie adventures – in 2009 I started making a small one-man-band self-funded movie about insane racing cars that was going to be done live action + miniatures – but after a couple of years I canned it because it was too ambitious – then I attempted another small one-man-band self-funded movie (live action + CG) about battling gods which got further along than the first one but I canned that too after three years because it was also too ambitious – after that I went for a third attempt (mostly live action) and this one has gone the distance – I’m shooting the last couple of scenes right now and will get into serious post later this year – no idea when it will be finished, it’s a huge amount of work and lots of VFX but has been the best experience of my life and I think the result is pretty good – it’s a sci-fi story called The Migrant, I’ll see if someone wants to release it through usual channels but if not I’ll put it out under a Creative Commons license and get on with the next one

    Regarding the UK DVD CUT
    just before the movie was finalized and released in 1993 I was conflicted about whether dmachine was good or crap – my ego was such that it was hard for me to accept that the movie was too long or dragged but many people were telling me it was too long and my gut also was telling me the truth: the movie was too long, more specifically too slow (long isn’t bad if the movie’s compelling, Terminator 2 for example) – thus, despite my ego resisting the truth, I knew deep down the movie felt too long which meant it was not particularly compelling

    the problem was compounded by the movie being edited on film (this was before any form of digital picture editing was easily available) – the pacing of a film therefore depended on the instincts of the editor from day one to day delivery, it wasn’t something that could easily be changed at the last minute – I knew in my heart that the slow pace of death machine was partly because the editor was cautious and old school, prioritizing matching actions over editorial energy but mostly because I had forced him to run things long because I couldn’t bear to make things shorter, I was just too convinced of the awesomeness of every frame – in my defense it was the first movie I had ever made so I didn’t really understand much about pacing, I learned that the hard way – but, let’s be honest, the movie was slow and not particularly compelling because I had not let the editor cut freely

    so, when the UK distributor complained the movie was too long (and what they really meant was the movie wasn’t compelling – the actual phrase they used was “it’s good, not great”), I said I could make it better given the film process and the limited time available by recutting only the first reel – it was deemed impractical to recut the whole movie – they agreed so I personally recut reel one on a flatbed machine and we redid the sound – then a new interneg was struck from the reel one interpos and the interneg conformed by neg cutters to create the source for the UK delivery interpos – thus the UK reel one is one generation down from the rest of the movie – a legacy of the film process – I thought the new reel one was better and the distribs agreed so that was what went out in the UK – the recut reel one work print and conformed interneg probably still exists somewhere but I’ve never been able find it

    And then following on to the 2024 DIRECTOR’S CUT
    these days all those film complications have gone away – we overhauled the entire picture and sound for the 2024 Director’s Cut on regular computers in a couple of months – the exhilaration I derived from the 2024 process was being able to finally fix my poor pacing choices from 1992-3 – nevertheless, the available tools and film medium back in 1992-3 were not the problem – the prime reason for the UK Cut reel one edit was that I had tied the hands of the editor to some extent, found out the hard way that my “genius” was not exactly that and then scrambled to make the movie more compelling by doing what could practically be done in the time before release, namely recutting reel one to add more energy

    Regarding the fast cutting of DEATH MACHINE
    all those fast-cut action seqs in Death Machine were done on film and pushed the limits of neg cutting – the neg cutters didn’t like to cut short clips or single frames because cuts put a lot of stress on the neg and if the neg broke or tore, frames could be lost and not recoverable – thus the more cuts the higher the chance of neg failure – that actually happened during the shooting of Death Machine – we had to file an insurance claim to cover a damaged neg so we could reshoot a short clip of the monster that had been lost – incidentally, the sound design and layup was done by Nainita Desai on a DAR digital soundstation so it was easier to do fast-paced audio stuff – but the visuals were cut on film

    BONUS QUESTION #1 – Stephen was kind enough to answer a super geeky question I had about BLADE. Specifically how did they accomplish the zoom and shake on the insert shots of Blade’s sword embedded in the La Magra temple pillars? (there’s plenty of astounding camera work from Theo van de Sande in BLADE, but this one always stood out for me)

    Blade was shot on film and had little money for post VFX so there’s a bunch of in-camera physical hacks we did that worked great – that particular shot was a combo of a crash zoom, a camera stop-start and a punch to the camera operator’s shoulder to jar him – the camera stop-starts were cool because when you stop a 35mm film camera while shooting, the film slows down as it passes through the gate which simultaneously causes a fade-up whiteout and an action speed-up – vice versa for restarting – I used the effect again on LoEG for the Hyde transformations – the crash zooms were inspired by zooms you see in martial arts movies (prob Wesley’s idea) – punching the operator was the operator’s idea, he would try to keep a steady shot and we’d shove him and mess around with the stop-start and the crash zoom – the dailies were filled with weird stuff that confused the executives, a lot of crap but plenty of awesome moments which made the final cut after some judicious editing – I heard Chris Cunningham did some cool things on music vids in the late nineties by cracking open the film magazine while the camera was running and shining a pocket torch into the gap, causing a bunch of cool glares and random burnout effects – shooting on film was cool – I love digital but do spend a lot of time faking organic effects like those physical film tricks from back in the day

    BONUS QUESTION #2 – I asked Stephen about the possibility of one day seeing a HD / 4K version of THE LAST MINUTE (In my opinion – a truly individual film that deserves rediscovery).

    re: Last Minute – I don’t know the status of that movie – I think it’s in good shape and I think the DVD release was great – over the years people have asked me about a new release, perhaps a blu-ray or maybe even 4k, but I never heard that anything was pending – the issue is that it’s a privately-owned movie controlled by the tiny company Palm Pictures that may just be a legal entity at this point, no longer a real company – Michael Felsher at Kino-Lorber asked me about the movie – I told him I think it’s a great movie in great shape and a great candidate for a new transfer to blu-ray or 4k – he should connect with Palm Pictures – I would totally support that but have not heard any more – if you and your cohorts would like to see a new release on an upgraded format I encourage you to connect with Palm Pictures and Kino-Lorber and let them know your enthusiasm – I think these companies only act when they sense there’s fan enthusiasm for a product (aka money to be made) – just having a director demand a new release is not enough for these companies, there’s no money to be made from a demanding director, just expenses incurred

    Q: I guess my ask is what happened to the rest of the projects he planned on doing after LXG. There was a WWII horror called Lost Patrol that sounded great. And he was attached to The Crow remake, Clash of the Titans remake, and an Akira adaptation. What happened to those and what was his vision for them at the time.

    SN: just as the (mistaken) adage says “time heals all wounds”, by approx 2007 I was starting to get bored of my Burning Man adventures so I called my ex-agent and some studio execs to investigate if there any projects that I might be able to develop, with an eye to direct – in hindsight I was victim to another cliché, looking again to Hollywood with “rose-tinted spectacles” – nevertheless, my ex-agent is a great guy and a total Hollywood power player – he was able to make development deals for me with Legendary (The Lost Patrol), Ed Pressman/Relativity (The Crow) and Warner Bros (Clash Of The Titans, Akira) – here’s the details:

    THE LOST PATROL
    second world war trenches action meets The Thing – there was no script, just a story idea – I wrote a script that added secret Nazi reality-bending science to explain the monsters – it became trench warfare versus The Thing by way of Nazi mind-warping science – the script was well liked but “needed a lot of work” (their opinion, not mine), producers came on board, we started working out costs, I did four drafts trying to please the execs, ultimately they didn’t feel confident, they were confused by the reality-bending stuff, wanted Guillermo Del Toro involved as exec producer, I chatted with GDT, he was uncomfortable with the Nazi tech stuff, it was too close to things he was developing, it didn’t work out so the project was shelved and everyone moved on

    THE CROW
    Ed Pressman contacted me and asked if I was interested in rebooting The Crow – I said no unless I can write a script that completely reinvents the character and story so It can be something from me rather than another episode of James O’Barr’s world – I expected Ed to say “get lost” because O’Barr’s Crow is a well-loved and valuable property – to my surprise, Ed said yes – I wrote four drafts of a wholly original story, based on the same basic story ideas (family killed by evil gang, father resurrected to seek revenge, violence and retribution ensue) – we started budgeting but each draft found less creative favour with Relativity (the financing company) – the wholly new material illuminated that, despite what had been said, what was really wanted was another episode of O’Barr’s Crow, not an original idea – ultimately three things killed it: Relativity wanted Mark Wahlberg to play the resurrected father (and Wahlberg hated my script), Ed Pressman employed Nick Cave (the rocker) to do a presumably “gothy” rewrite, and the budget came in too high ($45million) – the project had moved far away from my original idea so I quit and moved on – I don’t think the recent release has anything to do with my material

    CLASH OF THE TITANS
    there was a script by Lawrence Kasdan (Empire Strikes Back etc) – WBros wanted me to direct that script – I wasn’t interested, I said I would write a new script – WBros hesitantly agreed but didn’t really facilitate the process, in hindsight they said what I wanted to hear but hoped to steer me back to Kasdan’s script – Kasdan was annoyed that this no-name UK bloke wanted to jettison his script – I didn’t much care if I did the movie or not – if I was going to do it I wanted it to be something I thought was cool, with ideas and filmmaking that I sparked to – I did a audio-visual presentation to the execs – they were underwhelmed – I went on a long-planned expedition to the South Pole (seriously) – when I came back I found I’d been fired and replaced with Louis Leterrier – it was a good outcome all round – I didn’t have to do something I wasn’t interested in and the movie made $500million worldwide for WBros

    AKIRA
    for years this project has been looking for the right moment – I got involved for a short while, wrote a treatment that adjusted the story into something more US-centric, more straightforward – my version would have likely annoyed fans but perhaps would have been financially viable (ie: costs a lot but makes a lot because it’s mainstream, understandable and relatable to non-fan audiences – the fan audience is dwarfed by the non-fan audience) – ultimately, though, my approach made the execs uncomfortable, too different from the original, too expensive to mount, too much of a risk in their eyes – they were probably right – everybody moved on – WBros has since explored a few other approaches – looks like Taika Waititi’s version might go the distance

    needless to say, those development experiences confirmed what I had previous concluded, that I wasn’t going to find a fulfilling creative life in Hollywood – and here we are

    Q: Does he have plans for making a grand return to the industry or is the aim to stay a true independent/one man band? Possibly any chances of branching into other mediums like comics?”

    SN: no grand return but perhaps my new movie The Migrant will find some fans – yes, it’s a 98% one-man-band project (with three actors) but it’s a full-length feature and looks like it was made by a studio – small scale project, big sci-fi ideas, best experience of my life – not sure how I will release it, will see if streamers want to pay me for a 1yr exclusive license – if not, I’ll release it myself under Creative Commons license and get on with the next one (already written, ready to go, just need to finish The Migrant first)

    no comics plans but I do have a 60% completed kid-centric reality-bending novel I wrote in 2003-5 – I still plan to finish it but have to get these DIY movies done first

    Q: what’s his views on the film industry and where he thinks it’s going?

    SN: the film industry is going along just fine making tons of money while always pleading poverty – despite universal audience complaints about movies, streaming, TV etc, those big media corps are constantly making content, making money (because the complaining audiences are nevertheless still watching), developing risk-adverse material and turning big profits at the end of it all

    very quickly AI will be used to create 99% of genre content from the big corps and (I’m guessing) 50% of non-genre content – soon it will be cheaper to use AI to create a movie like Avatar: Way Of Water rather than human crews – people will complain about AI being used but audiences will still flock to movies, TV, streamers, phones etc and the industry will still make big bucks – in other words, business as usual, just more computers

    here in Norringtonland I really enjoy making real things, doing practical effects and going to amazing locations to shoot cool shots – it’s a life experience and I don’t much care if an audience likes my output – I’ll keep on keeping on making little analog films in the real world and having a laugh – but a decade from now big media will be producing most of its content in dark computer cubicles largely by way of prompts and AI focus groups

    Q: Can we please get an LXG 4K? Is that even a possibility? I know there are sore feelings about it, but certainly he knows the film has a fanbase. The blu-ray is ancient and could definitely use some TLC.

    SN: LXG is controlled by Fox which is now owned by Disney – I have not heard anything about a 4K release of the movie but I’m sure it will happen one day, especially if Disney senses that the movie has been re-evaluated by audiences and is now a cool relic from audience childhoods that might yield new money to Disney if they invest in a 4K release – as far as my involvement goes, I’d certainly like to orchestrate a director’s cut but I fear the improvements I’d want to make would be financially prohibitive to Disney – if they ask me I’d certainly discuss but I suspect they don’t care enough to spend meaningful money on that movie at this time in history – footnote: the first three reels of LXG were edited by the editor and me – the remaining three were edited by the editor under the direction of the Fox execs and perhaps a smidgen of Connery – this was because I bailed on the movie during post when it became obvious I was an obstacle to getting the movie finished in time for Fox’s desired summer release date (IMHO a horrible mistake, Autumn would have been better but, hey, it was Fox’s decision to make) – thus, any director’s cut would require a complete overhaul of at least 50% of the movie which would be a significant expense

    Q: What was the (DEATH MACHINE) budget exactly? IIRC Stephen said $2m in one commentary but in the Ray Burdis interview he says $500k (which sounds impossible). I always thought scenes had been filmed on location because the office and vault sets are really quite amazing for a low budget film.

    SN: I don’t actually know exactly what the budget was beyond the number “two-point-five million” – that may have been dollars, may have been pounds, may have been the original number, may have been the final number – the movie went over budget so not sure where it ended up and in what denomination – I usually just say it was “2.5million dollars, or perhaps pounds” – it certainly wasn’t 500k! – but whatever it was, it was low budget and the entire crew achieved crazy impressive things in all departments for the meagre pennies they had available

    could you ask Stephen what his version of Freddy Vs Jason and Resident Evil would have been like? And does he ever want to get back into the studio system? Thank you

    FREDDY VRS JASON / RESIDENT EVIL
    I’m not sure how my name came to be linked to either of those projects – I was never approached to be involved and never did any development for either of them – another case of internet Chinese Whispers, I think – I did hear that Rob Bottin once was developing Freddy Vrs Jason – that would have been something to behold

    RETURN TO THE STUDIO SYSTEM
    I refer you to my previous answers

    ”So, you and Sean Connery? Tell me evvverything.”

    NORRINGTON VRS CONNERY
    sorry to disappoint, there was not much to this story – Connery didn’t like me and I didn’t like him because he didn’t like me – we did have a couple of loud arguments and I tried to quit the movie one time because I was “sick of it all” – but I wasn’t allowed to quit (legal action etc) so I stayed and we finished the movie

    overall Connery was extremely professional, he was always available, always knew his lines, always treated everyone with grace and courtesy – I don’t know why he took a dislike to me, I think perhaps he didn’t like being told what to do by a greenhorn, didn’t like my brusque tone, didn’t like my getting frustrated at crew member friends of his, didn’t like feeling he was in the dark about what was going on, didn’t like my fast-paced shooting schedule (a combo of my energy and the movie being a bit underbudgeted by the studio), perhaps sensed I didn’t care about his status, I didn’t revere him, I just wanted to get the movie in the can and get gone

    Connery made a number of negative public statements that, in combo with the production being affected by a big flood in Prague, became a media story about how the director was a madman and the movie was an epic disaster – true, the floods were a headache for the art department but for the shooting crew they were a positive in many ways, gave us two weeks downtime to reset, clear a backlog of second unit and we got an insurance payout that bought us more shooting time

    the making of LoEG was essentially the same experience as you find on a lot of big movies (I’ve worked on quite a few as an effects guy): fun times, horrible times, easy work, stressful work, temper tantrums, gracious moments, fist-pumping successes, out-of-the-blue problems, big budget, penny pinching, studio descends in post (it’s their money after all), movie gets finished in one form or another, gets released, end of story – by the time LoEG was finished I had long gone, nothing to do with Connery or even Fox, everything to do with finding a better quality of life somewhere else

    Q: He’s talked about big changes that were made to League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. We’re there any big scenes Cut from the film (besides the publicly released ones) that he felt would have made the movie even better? What are some of the things he would change in an edit to improve the movie?

    SN: actually it’s not that there were big changes made to League by the studio, it’s that the studio insisted on a different angle and intention and so my intentions were never realized – the issues I have are in four areas:

    A) tone – my intention was darker, more character details and complexities, more story clarity and cohesion (all of which was shot but never used), studio intention was lighter, simpler, faster even if things got more superficial and the story became a bit incoherent

    B) running time – my intention was to use as much time as necessary to flesh out characters and emphasize their complexities – studio intention was for the movie to run as short as possible

    C) action – my intention was to include all the awesome action sequences we shot – studio didn’t like action sequences and was resistant to including all the action sequences even though we had shot them at great expense – so they never got used

    D) vfx – there are some really great visual effects in the movie and some really horrible ones – I thought all vfx should be excellent, studio was happy to accept the bare minimum to get the movie released on time

    the ABCD areas of disagreement were such that, to pursue my version I’d need to do epic battle with the studio and they’d have to move their release date which they wouldn’t do – because life’s too short I stepped away and they turned out the version you’ve seen

    Q: I know that there was a cut cameo of Morbius in Blade, there’s a little of it on the internet, but was more filmed of Morbius? Like closer shots or dialogue? Did you have plans for the character if you had made Blade 2 (and the rights issues weren’t a thing).

    SN: the “Morbius Cameo” wasn’t Morbius as far as I remember, it only became Morbius after the fact when writer David Goyer said that’s who it was – but I might be wrong, perhaps it was always supposed to be Morbius and I’ve forgotten – either way that one shot was all there was, it was just supposed to be an epic way to end the movie, the action’s all over but Blade’s “still got a job to do”, there’s still mysterious vampire enemies out there and Blade’s “back on the clock”, cut to black – for some reason the studio didn’t like that ending, too blunt, too ambiguous – we worked up the Moscow ending because New Line wanted to see Blade in Moscow for some reason – people seem to like the Moscow ending but it always seemed out-of-tone to me (as did the prophecy stuff), Blade to me was like a 1970’s city crime thriller – putting the character in Moscow smelled of tone-busting franchise building at the expense of the character’s authentic texture

    Q: Just for fun, what would you do with a Death Machine 2?

    SN: ha!, well, with the caveats that there’s no chance I will be doing DM2 and little chance anyone else will be doing DM2 either (although I did send the new cut to the Duffer Bros to bring it to their attention – perhaps they’ll spark to world and turn it into a limited TV series (without me involved of course), here’s a DM2 idea that I just made up now – it’s pretty good!:

    DEATH MACHINES
    in a world at war, technology runs amok

    in future frontline trench warfare a military unit of young soldiers struggle to stay alive in the face of a massive enemy onslaught – their problems are compounded by lethal flaws in their Chaank exo-armour battlesuits – these latest generation suits are supposed to be “seamlessly integrated” with “frictionless” personality interchange brain upload/download software but things don’t work as advertised

    the problems are further exacerbated by resistance from higher-ups to admitting the problems – the military has contracted with Chaank at great expense for the newest HardMan systems and both Chaank and the military need the suits to work flawlessly, even if they don’t – at the sharp end of the spear the young soldiers are getting killed while the Military/Chaank industrial complex pretend everything is going just fine

    and then, on one dark and pivotal night, the enemy drops a new kind of weapon onto the battlefield, a weapon the enemy is not supposed to have, embargoed technology, banned from export, was never supposed to have been developed in the first place, the product of a long-dead psychopath, breaks all the laws of war, can’t be controlled, “the more afraid you are, the sharper its trace…”, yes, the enemy parachutes a whole platoon of Warbeasts into the fight and the young soldiers in their flawed HardMan suits must stand against total annihilation by next-generation psycho deathbots

    ka-chiing!

  16. Thanks for that, that was an interesting read. I actually had the Turbine (One of our, maybe even THE best German label these days) Blu-Ray in my hands today, but since it contained the European cut that I had just seen a few days ago, I bailed. (Even though my old DVD had no English language track!) That really makes me wanna track down the 2024 cut.

  17. Wow, thank you E.F., that was extremely informative. Answers to questions I never thought I’d have, and questions I never even thought of.

    I had no idea this was a special editioning. Didn’t notice anything that seemed out of place, but like I said, it’s been decades since I saw it.

    I’m especially glad to see that there’s a happy ending here. The legend has always been that he was run out of Hollywood by his bad experience on LXG (I like that he doesn’t use that abbreviation, by the way) but it seems the truth is more that he realized he was unhappy and found a better life for himself. Very interested to see one of his DIY movies some day.

  18. I don’t think we will ever see an LXG director’s cut, but the movie seems to have a shelf life despite being a much hated bomb when it came out, and I like his assumption that it is or might become beloved by a generation that grew up with it.

  19. I also want to thank E.F. for posting that. I knew next to nothing about Norrington before reading it, and it turns out he’s an interesting character and kind of a maverick Artist. Anyone who seriously considers releasing a feature film under Creative Commons earns serious points from me! I will have to track down this edition of DEATH MACHINE.

  20. Joining the chorus thanking EF for posting that. Norrington has become a bit of a recluse after the LXG debacle. In fact EMPIRE magazine wanted to interview him a few years ago when they were prepping for a retro on LXG but he politely declined. So, to see him be so chatty and forthright is a joy.

    And I just loved this: “the making of LoEG was essentially the same experience as you find on a lot of big movies (I’ve worked on quite a few as an effects guy): fun times, horrible times, easy work, stressful work, temper tantrums, gracious moments, fist-pumping successes, out-of-the-blue problems, big budget, penny pinching, studio descends in post (it’s their money after all), movie gets finished in one form or another, gets released, end of story ”

    Too often we get pretty binary with tales of these supposedly “nightmare” shoots when I’m sure there were days of grace alongside days of pure torment.

    And respect to him not taking the opportunity to dump on Connery.

    As for DEATH MACHINE, I saw it so long ago I’ve forgotten almost all of it. Vern’s review begs a rewatch.

  21. I need to check this one out. Growing up I had a friend that had the poster on his wall, not that he was a fan (I don’t think he ever saw it), he was displaying it in an ironic way. He had a few random movie posters he got from his local mom and pop video store he hung. The randomness of them only added to the joke.

  22. A friend of mine had a rental poster for DR DOLITTLE 2 framed on his wall, because we once bought a bulk of random, used posters from a video store, he had a big picture frame and that one was on top of the pile. That was all.

  23. I used to have a SEEDPEOPLE poster, a movie I’m not 100% sure I’ve ever seen. It was just a cool painting of some weird monsters.

    I also used to have a RETURN OF SWAMP THING poster but I would display that one unironically nowadays. I wish I hadn’t gotten rid of it. An original Wynorski. What was I thinking?

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