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Clear and Present Danger

August 3rd, 1994

More like CLEAR AND PRESZZZZzzzzzzz, am I right, guys?

Oh, am I wrong? Maybe I’m wrong. I’m not the best judge, because I’m a heathen when it comes to Jack Ryan. My dad loved Tom Clancy books, my wife and many of my friends consider THE HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER to be one of the all time greats, many people love this character, I just think that gene skipped me. But here we are most of the way through our revisit of the summer of ’94 and it feels like we’re low on traditional blockbusters, so I was kind of excited to see CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER. There are plenty of things to like about it, especially when discussing it, but unfortunately I found it mostly dull to watch compared to PATRIOT GAMES, which I somewhat enjoyed and respectfully labelled “Adult Contemporary Action.”

This, too, is for the older folks that want some of the fantasy of Exceptional Men Who Get Shit Done but without the classless excess of flying kicks or other cool shit. It begins by massaging the Adult Contemporary Action erogenous zones, showing people in uniforms operating various types of machinery on a submarine and a US Coast Guard vessel. The inciting incident is the Coast Guard boarding a suspicious yacht in the Caribbean and discovering its American businessman owner has been murdered by Colombians. Jack Ryan (Harrison Ford between THE FUGITIVE and SABRINA) is a CIA analyst who looks into it and discovers the American got offed by a cartel because he was laundering money for them and tried to embezzle some.

This becomes an international incident because President Bennett (Donald Moffat, THE THING) was good buddies with the businessman/launderer/embezzler, he gets really pissed about it and gives National Security Advisor James Cutter (Harris Yulin, SCARFACE) the ol’ too bad we can’t illegally send special ops guys after the cartel but we couldn’t because illegal stuff is illegal and we would never do illegal stuff that is illegal you know what I mean wink wink nudge nudge you understand what I’m telling you to do here don’t you I think you do but I didn’t say it but you get it.

Normally this wouldn’t be Ryan’s problem, but his great friend Admiral Greer (James Earl Jones, last heard in THE LION KING) is being treated for pancreatic cancer and appoints him as reluctant Deputy Director of Intelligence. Ryan requests money from Congress to fund Colombians fighting the drug cartels, having no idea that this asshole CIA Deputy Director of Operations Ritter (Henry Czerny, soon to play Kittridge in MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE) is setting him up to take the blame for funding a black ops team led by badass operative John Clark (Willem Dafoe, LIGHT SLEEPER), the character later played by Michael B. Jordan in WITHOUT REMORSE. While Ryan investigates and analyzes and what not there are scenes of Clark and his team doing COMMANDO shit in the jungle.

So there are two sets of villains: the crooked American government he works with and the cartel who try to murder him when he goes to negotiate seizing their assets. Drug lord Ernesto Escobedo (Miguel Sandoval, one of the cops who killed Radio Raheem) says evil stuff and hangs out at his mansion (which has a bowling alley like Daniel Plainview’s) while his right hand man Felix Cortez (Joaquim de Almeida shortly before DESPERADO) does the dirty work.

The funniest thing in the movie is that Ryan’s wife Cathy (Anne Archer, THE HONKERS) coincidentally has a friend named Moira (Ann Magnuson between CABIN BOY and TANK GIRL) who’s been having romantic sex rendezvous with Cortez. She has no idea he’s a cartel operative trying to use her because she’s a secretary for the FBI. She actually tells Cathy about her fling and describes him as looking like Jack “except Latin.” I don’t really see the resemblance so it seems like it’s only there to force a comparison between the two, as rival intelligence officers. I was hoping there would be a part where Cortez has to pass as Jack by doing a white guy voice, and no one catches him.

Eventually Ryan and Clark cross paths and reluctantly team up to rescue members of the team who the government is willing to leave behind. The ol’ pro-military but anti-government-especially-those-bureaucrats action movie standby (see: UNCOMMON VALOR, etc.). I heard somewhere that Jack Ryan in the books is not some action hero, he’s an analyst, more of a nerd who does what he can when he’s thrown into it. And that’s definitely what Ford does here – the famous stills from the movie are him cowering. He runs awkward. He has a cowlick sometimes. And Clark seems very skeptical about him being able to help at all.

I respect that but also I gotta be honest, at least at this level of quality I’d rather see an action movie than an intelligence/investigation movie with occasional danger. It does ultimately turn into a RAMBO: FIRST BLOOD PART II/MISSING IN ACTION type bring-our-boys-home mission, complete with finding the prisoners in a weakened condition and seeing their relief. Ironically in my PATRIOT GAMES review I noted that “he doesn’t go in like Rambo,” he just gives them the intelligence and then stays home and watches on a screen as the pros take care of it.” I thought that was cool, but I also wrote that “[director Philip] Noyce has the right idea: just because this guy is a smarty pants doesn’t mean he’s not gonna end the movie in a fist fight to the death on a speed boat that’s on fire and careening toward land with no one driving.” Unfortunately, Noyce either no longer believed that by the time of this one, or was forced by the bureaucrats to abandon his principles. The helicopter-dangling scene is pretty cool but it doesn’t feel like a big action climax, especially when TRUE LIES just did a more exciting one, and not as the finale.

Fortunately there’s some exciting and memorable stuff that’s not violence. To me the highlight is the epilogue where Ryan has the audacity to chew out the president. Fuck you, the president. Jack is right on this one. Another highlight is the scene where he’s at a computer breaking into government files and realizes Ritter is in there at the same time deleting them. He calls him on the phone to slow him down while trying to print out evidence of wrongdoing. Then he gets up and opens the door and Ritter is right on the other side rushing toward him. I didn’t realize they were in offices across from each other this whole time! It’s a great scene.

As far as the politics of this thing, it’s a real have/eat cake situation – we get to enjoy soldiers illegally going to war with drug dealer bad guys, then at the end we’re told it was wrong. Mostly because some soldiers died doing it. But I appreciate that Ryan objects and becomes a whistleblower. That doesn’t make him a saint, but we do need more guys like that in the job.

As is standard for Adult Contemporary Action there are a ton of recognizable faces in the supporting cast, a mix of veteran character actors and up-and-comers who went on to bigger things. Clark’s squad includes Benjamin Bratt (ONE GOOD COP) and Raymond Cruz (UNDER SIEGE), Thora Birch (MONKEY TROUBLE) briefly returns as Ryan’s daughter, Dean Jones (all the old Disney movies) plays the CIA director, Rex Linn (Last seen in WYATT EARP) shows up as a cop, and it’s the penultimate movie for Hope Lange (DEATH WISH). We also get someone from Perfect Strangers (Belita Moreno), someone from Ally McBeal (Greg Germann), someone from Homicide: Life On the Street (Reed Diamond), someone from Chicago Hope (Vondie Curtis-Hall, last seen in CROOKLYN), someone later on The Wire (Reg E. Cathey), someone later on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (Clark Gregg, last seen in I LOVE TROUBLE), and even someone from Pee-wee’s Playhouse (Miss Yvonne herself, Lynne Marie Stewart, is glimpsed as Greer’s secretary!). Most importantly, Ted Raimi (DARKMAN) plays “Satellite Analyst.” I’m not sure who plays him in WITHOUT REMORSE.

Director Noyce was of course returning after the success of PATRIOT GAMES. This was his movie between SLIVER and THE SAINT. The screenplay is credited to Donald E. Stewart (who wrote the other two, but also JACKSON COUNTY JAIL, DEATHSPORT, and an old manuscript that later became HOSTILES), Steven Zaillian (between SCHINDLER’S LIST and MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE story credit) and motherfuckin John MAGNUM FORCE Milius. That’s a hell of a trio! Three the hard way. Milius actually wrote the first draft for John McTiernan after RED OCTOBER, Stewart rewrote it for Noyce, then Zaillian rewrote that because Clancy didn’t like it. There were also apparently rewrites to appease the Pentagon, it should be noted. Gotta keep those guys happy. Milius supposedly stayed on as a consultant for action scenes.

I guess I can say I kind of liked CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER, but I’m not itching to watch it again.

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30 Responses to “Clear and Present Danger”

  1. I agree that the two Ford/Noyce Jack Ryan joints are a little too tasteful to really get the blood pumping, but I will stand up for HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER. I watched it recently for the first time in 30 years and, man, does it hold up. It’s not trying to be a middlebrow spin on an action movie like the others. It’s just trying to be a straight-up thriller, and at that it succeeds. It’s perfectly paced and riveting all the way through, aided by dynamic camerawork and lively performances from a murderer’s row of classic That Guys. Baldwin is way more convincing at the whole nerd-in-over-his-head thing than Ford, and Connery gets perhaps his last good role. It’s just a really solid movie that feels a few years ahead of its time. It feels like the movie all 90s studio action thrillers wanted to be. It’s better than almost all of them.

  2. Hunt for Red October is clearly the best of all of these films and one of the best thrillers of the 90s. But I think Clear and Present Danger is pretty darn good as well. I would put it above Patriot Games. I love that the most intense moment of the film is about printing out some paper. It takes some real skill to wring out that much suspense over something so seemingly mundane. But you didn’t even mention the ambush, which is also a wonderful action sequence.

    Vern is right that the film’s politics allows us to root for these special forces against the cartels while also telling us this is the wrong thing to do. But at least it tells us that placing American soldiers into a foreign nation that we’re not at war with is wrong. Today, Republicans are openly arguing that we should go to war with Mexican cartels. (And, I’m sorry, but if we couldn’t defeat the Taliban, then we’re not going to defeat the cartels).

    Similarly, Hunt for Red October has us root for the guy who wants to ask questions and maybe have a detente before blowing a nuclear sub out of the Atlantic. Both films have nominally liberal viewpoints.

  3. Napoleon Nitroglycerin

    August 7th, 2024 at 6:10 pm

    I couldn’t really care less about Clancy’s books and most of the films, but this one is fun… although I suppose there are only three scenes of which to think, really, when recollecting it:

    – The commandos running through the jungle, being chased and killed

    – The bazooka attack on the cars

    – And, of course, the Great Immortal One: Cellulose-Encased, Laser-Guided Bomb! “Circular error probability zero, impact with high-order detonation… have a nice day!”.

  4. I enjoyed the movie as a plausible enough scenario and a morality play example of violating Marcus Aurelius’ mantra you shouldn’t act on impulse.

    Clancy never forgave the filmmakers for going too far from the book which ended with the President throwing an election to keep the operations secret.

    And I don’t blame the filmmakers for calling hogwash on that. We’re too cynical to accept that, even 30 years ago.

    Reminds me of John Frankenheimer saying people wouldn’t buy anymore that plot point in SEVEN DAYS IN MAY of a President not willing to use blackmail photos to stop the would-be dictator general.

  5. Just like John Grisham, these Tom Clancy things also seem to be a bit of a relic of the past. Although of course Clancy had the advantage of writing things about the military, even if it seemed to be more on the paperwork side of things, so at least in retrospect the appeal of these things seems easier to understand than those lawyer dramas. That he sold his name rights to a video game company and we still get a steady stream of Tom Clancy first person shooters, helps probably too.

    This is the only of those Jack Ryan movies that I actually saw and I remember having a mixed reaction to it. They took a pretty boring story and made it watchable, but in the end still failed to make me care about it.

    After reading the IMDb castlist, I would also like to add: Vaughn Armstrong (STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE) as “Blakhawk Pilot”, Patrick Bauchau (PRETENDER) as “Enrique Rojas” and one guy from a really great show who I don’t wanna mention because that motherfucker spends life in prison for murder.

  6. Last spring, a local film festival had a John McTiernan series with the man himself as the guest of honor. So I got to see Hunt for the Red October on the big screen with McTiernan providing the introduction. It is a fantastic film and a classic. Among its many brilliant aspects is the way the language changes from Russian to English, then back to Russian, and then to English again. And it’s all done visually. McTiernan said that he felt he was showing off a bit by doing that.

    Clear and Present Danger was a regular viewing on VHS when I was a kid. I haven’t seen it since, but I remember liking it. I found Patriot Games boring back then, but my opinion might change if I watched it again.

  7. The Jack Ryan serie is an interesting one – they seem to never quite get it right. I also thing that Red October is still the best of the lot, but it is also because the character of Jack Ryan is secondary to Sean Connery’s role. And also, John McTiernan is from another league compared to the other directors that have followed. I still prefer Patriot Games to Clear and Present Danger – I like maybe better the IRA/terrorist angle compared to the Colombia cartel story (and Patriot Games had a great soundtrack). I haven’t rewatched Sum of All Fears since it was released – I just remember that it came too soon after 9/11 and that made a lot of people uncomfortable, so maybe time to re-watch it! The Chris Pine one (Shadow Recruit) was okay – maybe because I watched it after reading all the bad reviews, i was pleasantly surprised by it… and even though it is not a Jack Ryan movie, I quite like the Without Remorse with Michael B. Jordan – hope they do another one (I think they will).
    And Mr Majestyk – I would disagree that Red October was the last great role for Sean Connery… I think Medicine Man is quite underrated (another McTiernan movie!) and I do love Connery in the Rock – that was for me his last great role.

  8. I used to devour the Clancy books right up to the point where like James Patterson and recently Lee Child, you got their names on the cover but the books were clearly written by someone else, and you could tell.

    At his peak, nobody married Byzantine politics with Global Techno Thriller at a scale Clancy did effortlessly. There’s a weird parallel of Clancy books to Seagal movies where I consider the 1st 7 deliriously entertaining compared to the dreck that came later. If Seagal got fat and lazy, Clancy’s strident politics were shoved so hard in your face from DEBT OF HONOR onwards, they might as well have been endorsed by the Republican Party.

    Agree that of all the Clancy adaptations, HUNT easily chews out the competition. PATRIOT GAMES was, kinda dull, CLEAR & PRESENT DANGER an improvement but still had a couple of draggy bits, SUM OF ALL FEARS was actually a terrific Clancy novel made into a mediocre Clancy film adaptation. I can hardly remember the one with Chris Pine and haven’t watched the John Krasinski series.

    The man’s gone but pick up any of Mark Greaney’s GRAY MAN books or Jack Carr’s James Reese books, and you’ll find his spirit and influence lives on.

  9. Edgard: I’ve never liked THE ROCK, and I always thought his character was just a bad caricature of the Connery persona. That’s pretty much all he played for the rest of his career, and I never cared for it.

    I don’t remember MEDICINE MAN very well but I’ll grant that it probably gave him something to chew on. Maybe it’s safer to say RED OCTOBER was the last great movie he was in.

  10. I take it back: Apparently at one point in 2011, according to a comment I left on Vern’s review, I did like THE ROCK, but apparently mostly for the supporting performances. Which I can appreciate. That movie’s got the That Guy-heaviesy cast in a particularly That Guy-heavy era.

    I still think that prom queen line is the nadir of Connery’s (and possibly script doctor Tarantino’s) career, though. Just 100% pure, undiluted try-hard cringe.

  11. I haven’t watched all of the Jack Ryan movies, but from those I’ve seen, the ones that fail put too much emphasis on the Jack Ryan character. What works with Hunt for Red October and Clear and Present Danger is that they are larger ensembles. Sure, Jack Ryan is the main character, but we’re following these large international events that covers multiple continents. The selling point of these movies, and even the novels, is a veneer of verisimilitude that you don’t have with James Bond.

    One way they make these movies more “realistic” is that Ryan isn’t present for every important event. Red October and Danger bounce around between multiple characters in a way that novels often do but that movies usually don’t. This makes them seem more “grounded.”

    But with Patriot Games and the Chris Pine reboot, it’s the Jack Ryan show.

  12. KayKay – thanks for reminding me about the John Krasinski serie… totally forgot about him, but on my watch list if I ever get the time (not a priority, but curious about it).

    Mr. Majestyk – fair enough, and yes, Connery’s role in The Rock is maybe a bit a caricature of his past, but still – I thought the Cage-Connery duo was quite good and elevated what could have been a so-so film into a fun action movie (90’s style)… Fun fact about the prom queen quote – because of that quote, every time I hear someone say *I’ll do my best*, I am dying to reply *your best?… (and you know the rest)*… never using that expression of doing your best anymore because of that movie.

  13. I like this one a lot more than Vern. People have mentioned all the commando-in-the-jungle stuff, the suburban ambush, Dafoe is great. One thing I haven’t seen mentioned: the Ding Chavez introduction, with the sniper/stalking training.

    “How the hell did you get so close to me?!”

    “Sniper approached the instructor by being a sneaky bastard, sir!”

    Just good stuff. Give me more like this.

  14. “That’s pretty much all he played for the rest of his career, and I never cared for it.”

    Wellllll…..that’s kinda selling FINDING FORRESTER short. A nuanced Connery performance, and worth checking out.

  15. I’m perhaps even more critical towards Connery than Majestyk is. I find him totally uninteresting in roles outside of the “action/suspense” universe. He was brilliant in OUTLAND, THE NAME OF THE ROSE and his two first Bond movies. Quite good in PRESIDIO, THE UNTOUCHABLES and THE ROCK. But the rest – forget about it. And never, ever read or watch interviews with him!

  16. I rewatched this recently, because it was on and concluded that it’s fine. Noyce is a capable director though this isn’t up there with something like BLIND FURY, and I have to agree that the ambush is a well done action set piece, even if the printer scene is the thrilling highlight of the movie. And it doesn’t waste its excellent cast. It doesn’t stand up against more recent War on Drugs movies like TRAFFIC or SICARIO.

    But an editorial query: I can see why it’s worth referencing MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE for Henry Czerny, as it’s hard not to think this one got him the Kittridge gig, but THE THING for Donald Moffat? Surely there’s not a man, woman or child reading this sight who when Donald Moffat’s name comes up doesn’t think of Garry “tied to this fucking couch!” This is a good and serious review of this movie that articulates very well what’s good and bad about it, but somehow I wanted a deeper cut on Moffat’s career than THE THING. It’s one of the things – sorry – we love about this sight. How about THE GREAT NORTHFIELD MINNESOTA RAID, the first of three movies he made with Phil Kaufman? Hey, THE RIGHT STUFF, which is a generational snapshot of great American character actors, and in which Moffat played Lyndon Johnson for Kaufman, may even have gotten him the part of the President in this. As an aside, I note that Moffat could never have really become President as, like Arnold, he was born in Europe. Although I suspect that, unlike Arnold, it’s not something he would’ve aspired to.

  17. Sorry Vern, everyone in this thread, and your wife, are right about Red October. I am also a pretty big fan of this one overall, and agree with RBatty that it is better than Patriot Games. I’m happy you were able to get some enjoyment out of it.

  18. This review made me check out what happened to Philip Noyce, since he seemed to have suddenly disappeared after being a pretty in-demand studio thriller journeyman. Forgot that he directed SALT and after that it was some TV (not even any award winning pay TV or streaming shows) and movies that I have never heard of, like one where Pierce Brosnan plays a hitman who has to prove that he killed the right man or another where Naomi Watts tries to safe her son from a school shooting.

  19. Borg9 – Sorry, I have limits to my knowledge. I am not familiar with the Minnesota thing and it wouldn’t be a funny one to put in parentheses so in this case I’m gonna go with the movie I can link to my review of.

  20. the more one learns about actual american history the more ridiculous this type of movie seems. the things our government openly acknowledges it has done (in almost all cases on orders of, or at least with full knowledge and support of, from everyone up to and including the president) are orders of magnitude more grotesque and horrifying than any of the shady shit they do even in movies where the govt is ostensibly the main villain, and its usually framed as if most of the really bad stuff is done in service of not letting it go public, when in reality plenty of it is already public (thanks to the courageous efforts of journalists and whistleblowers) and no one fucking cares. i can still enjoy the fantasy of a jack ryan or a bourne or what have you but the more i find out about what america has actually been up to all these years the more frustrated and jaded i get and and the harder it becomes to “turn my brain off and enjoy” as they say.

  21. @Ron, to be fair, there are a LOT of suspense thrillers that pivot on, “If it gets out [PROMINENT POLITICAL FIGURE] was responsible for this, it will be the end of our republic!” They haven’t aged well! And it seems clear from the last couple decades that the power of evil men with considerable resources is apparently limitless, and accountability is a myth.

    I still laugh about childhood comic books where Lex Luthor or Red Skull would become President simply by being on their best behavior, and how at the time we were all like, “That would be IMPOSSIBLE!” Shit came true, bro. A FEW times, really. And “best behavior” came into play very few times!

  22. That’s why I always laugh at conspiracy theories about what’s REALLY going on in our government. Like, it’s all right there, man. They ain’t even trying to hide it. What would they need an Illuminati for when they get away with everything they want right out in the open?

  23. Any fans of Jack Ryan Shadow Hunter here?

  24. Random thoughts, comments:

    No doubt THE HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER is the best Ryan movie – not even close. It’s McTiernan’s best directed film too. That gliding, swooping, camera – elegant rack focus and super scene blocking is just immaculate – only Cameron and Spielberg are his equal.

    I should check out MEDICINE MAN – I haven’t seen it in 20 years.

    I’m pretty sure some of the discordant issues with the film -especially not having Ryan more of the action hero was at the insistence of Harrison Ford – he wanted to not use a gun etc.

    Clancy was a notorious butcher and complainer about all three of these movies – RED OCTOBER, PATRIOT GAMES, CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER – which I always thought was particularly hilarious – there better movies than the books – especially RED OCTOBER.

  25. More random thoughts:

    Tom Clancy continued – the first 3 movies were huge successes, got good or better reviews, and one of them is a dad movie all timer. He had it lucky, especially compared to the later movies/shows. Of course he was dead by then – so maybe all his gripping paid off on the first three?

    More on Clancy – it should be noted that he was a huge, huge, huge selling author – he had the best selling hardcover book in the 1980s, and had one of the 3 best selling hardcover novels of the 1990s (along with John Grisham and JK Rowling) so he was doing ‘something’ right. I ran out of steam with his books a couple before he dies – they really became badly one dimensional and really overtly right wing, but hey.

    I think his best novel was actually a none Ryan book – RED STORM RISING – a blockbuster WW3 in Europe novel that is staggering in its scope and complexity. There was a brief burst of the techno thriller/war genre in books after he got popular – probably the best written (in terms of literary quality) were the early books of Stephen Coonts – one of them was made into a deliriously bad movie called FLIGHT OF THE INTRUDER – which does feature a truly nutty Willem Dafoe – performance.

    Speaking of Dafoe – he’s the best thing in this movie – he actually works because he seems so exactly opposite to the typical bad ass movie killer – you would never see that in a contemporary Hollywood blockbuster – you’d get a buff, ripped Michael B Jordan.

    A note on Connery – sorry, anyone who claims that outside of a couple of Bond movies, Untouchables and the PRESIDIO! and THE ROCK! that Connery was ‘uninteresting’ needs to do a little homework – check out:

    MARNIE

    THE HILL (one of the best British films of the 1960s)

    THE OFFENSE (Connery’s best performance)

    ZARDOZ (batshit crazy)

    THE WIND AND THE LION (written and directed by John Milius)

    THE MAN WHO WOULD BE KING (written and directed by John Huston) with another f****** great performance

    ROBIN AND MARION (a surprisingly tender and romantic performance opposite Audrey Hepburn.)

    THE GREAT TRAIN ROBBERY

    note – he made these 4 film back to back to back to back

    INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE – a great comedic performance

    THE RUSSIA HOUSE – another great performance in a low key spy thriller

    FINDING FORRESTER – perfect late career swan song role

    Connery, I feel was a much better actor, with more range and depth than he’s given credit for – he is, to use a common rubric – the best actor to ever play James Bond, and if you look at modern actors from 1950 – 2000 he might not be the very best, but he’s right up there – with way more different roles (that he was good in than people typically give him credit for.)

    None of this excuses that he was a bastard in real life.

    But other peoples opinions may vary.

  26. Nobody mentioned TIME BANDITS for Connery. I’m surprised.

    SUM OF ALL FEARS is decent as a film but it came out that same summer as BOURNE IDENTITY and that’s like ‘77 when SORCERER and STAR WARS, the zeitgeist was changing. Funny since BOURNE was of course based off a Cold War-era book but Doug Liman made it work for War on Terror aka good luck of timing.

    One thing I’ll give the forgettable SHADOW RECRUIT credit for just having the Russians be the clear cut bad guys in a Clancy-ian scheme he could’ve cooked up. Rare when Hollywood these days are wimpy AF about offending major foreign markets. Unlike the boring af WITHOUT REMORSE which pulled a Trumpian-pandering deep state fantasy so to not offend said overseas audiences (Paramount sold it off to Amazon anyway so opps.)

    Alan – credit to Clancy, RED STORM RISING predicted decades before the Ukraine invasion how the Russian military was overrated with specific issues that weren’t common consensus in western military circles at the time in the 80s.

    CJ Holden – you would be amused how in that book, when NATO wanted to retreat behind the Rhine at the Soviet invasion the Bundeswehr said FUCK YOU and stayed, which turned the tide.

    IIRC it’s been awhile but I think the East Germans refused Moscow’s orders to deploy chemical weapons (I think?) because it amounted to shitting in your own bed.

  27. I stopped doing homework when I was 19, but of course I’ve seen all the Connery movies mentioned here. I’ve probably seen a couple a lot of people haven’t even heard of. My point was, to quote Sick Boy in TRAINSPOTTING, Connery started out as a muscular actor who stood out because of his physical appearance. He really shined under a director like Terence Young, who more than anyone understood the Bond character. But if you watch FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE and then immediately go to GOLDFINGER it looks like he’s been lobotomized in the meantime. All the intelligence and cold reasoning has vanished from his eyes. But the movie was a huge success. And Connery never looked back. Almost all the movies mentioned are done by great directors like Lumet, Huston, Hitchcock etc. And they get a decent performance out of him. But those who just let him do what he thinks are enough, like Hamilton, Spielberg and Kershner, not so much. That’s why I’m claiming that he peaked with OUTLAND. Hyams really knew how to use him. Heavy on action, light on dialog.

  28. I mostly remember Raymond Cruz from this one, he was great in the 90s with this and Training Day and Alien Resurrection etc. He is always good in a highly competent no nonsense grunt on the ground role.

    I read a bunch of Clancy novels as a teenager and they got a little dull maybe starting with this one, and then the nuclear bomb (accidentally turned into an atomic bomb through blind luck) one was even more dull and that is as far as I got. These books were pretty much required reading for Navy brats.

  29. Sorry, Vern. I think I thought I was being funny, but rereading my comment I see that I may have confused helping in the strive for excellence with being a dick. My apologies, I would never want to criticise you for linking to your review of THE THING.

    I won’t labour things now, but I think you might find THE GREAT NORTHFIELD MINNESOTA RAID interesting. It’s wonderfully cast, including Robert Duvall as Jesse James, revisits, in part, a story we are familiar with, and, maybe, gives a glimpse of what Kaufman might’ve done with THE OUTLAW JOSIE WALES if Clint hadn’t got him fired.

  30. Red October is the best of this bunch, by far, followed by Patriot Games, and then C&PD brings up the rear.

    C&PD is okay but not all that thrilling or memorable. Red October was a whip smart, propulsive story with a large cast of smart characters trying to solve a very serious problem with limited information—it’s one of the great “thinking man’s” thrillers. Then Patriot Games had its appealing “this time it’s personal” edge going on, which brought the feels and played so damn well to Ford’s strengths. In contrast, C&PD doesn’t really have anything special under the hood. It’s a competently made, well-budgeted but very by-the-numbers entry. It also doesn’t have anything for Anne Archer or Thor’s Birch to do, unlike the previous movie; their parts in this one feel inflated to cater to the audience’s interest in Ryan’s family life, but this time around none of that stuff moves the story along and feels obligatory.

    Although this one was only okay, I am nostalgic for this era when Ford was in the Jack Ryan role. My father was big into the books so I had a general idea of what happened in the literary series. I assumed at the time I was watching this that we”d,see Ford again in The Sum of All Fears or Cardinal of the Kremlin. It was not to be.

    PS, Henry Czerny excels at playing punchable intelligence officers.

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