"I take orders from the Octoboss."


When we lost the great Stuart Gordon recently, I realized there were a few of his films I still hadn’t seen. It’s kind of nice, actually, to still have something left to discover. There’s a particular one that happens in space that involves truckers that I honestly have wanted to see since before it even came out, and somehow never have. It’ll be a few weeks before I can finally change that, because I decided to order a UK Blu-Ray instead of pay Amazon to stream it in standard def. But I wanted to watch this one first anyway – the one based on the David Mamet play.

Gordon and Mamet, if you don’t know, go way back. Long before RE-ANIMATOR, Gordon was doing envelope-pushing theater work in Chicago. He directed, at his Organic Theater Company, the production of Sexual Perversity in Chicago credited with establishing Mamet as a playwright, although there was an earlier one starring William H. Macy, who also stars in this movie.

Here he plays Edmond Burke, a dude who works for some kind of financial firm called Stearns & Harrington. He’s apparently had a bad day (his meeting on Monday got pushed back to 1:15 – WHAT IN THE LIVING GOD DAMN FUCK!?) when he heads home and, on a whim, stops to get a tarot reading. She tells him “You don’t belong here.”

I don’t think he has any dialogue until he gets home to his wife (Rebecca Pidgeon, ALLEGIANT). She’s complaining to him about an antique lamp that needs fixed (“The girl broke the lamp,” she says about a maid or something) when he says, “I’m going.”

“Will you bring me back some cigarettes?” she says.

“I’m not coming back.”


“I’m not coming back.”

“What do you mean?”

“I’m going, and I’m not going to come back.”

He explains that he doesn’t “want to live this kind of life.” He doesn’t love her. She doesn’t “interest” him “spiritually or sexually.”

I think maybe for some people there’s some kind of suspicion about Pidgeon, because she’s Mamet’s wife who’s mainly known for being in his movies (though she’s in other stuff too), but she is great in this scene. She’s the first of several performers who come into the movie for brief encounters where they make me laugh with the authentic ways they sit and listen to the crazy bullshit spewing out of Edmond’s mouth. Her way is to respond with a bitter but underplayed sarcasm.

His first stop is a bar, where people like him – white men wearing suits and ties – sit by themselves drinking, with a basketball game on the TV. Joe Mantegna (HOUSE OF GAMES, THREE AMIGOS) is sitting next to him, and he’s the kind of guy who will just say to a stranger, “I’ll tell you who’s got it easy.”


And his answer is a word I don’t like to repeat that starts with the letter N. In case you’re wondering what to think of Edmond, his response is to nod and say “Yes,” as “Bar Patron” gives his racialist spiel about how he wishes he was black and he would “Rob a store. I don’t blame ‘em, I swear to God. Because I want to tell ya, we’re bred to do the things that we do.”

I see this as an extra fucked up INTO THE NIGHT meets TAXI DRIVER, or a Mamet version of FALLING DOWN. This uptight white collar doofus suddenly loses his shit, leaves his wife and stays out all night, mostly trying to get laid (as his racist friend recommended), but also indulging in abominable racism and violence, which he talks up as some kind of invigorating realization of his true self. I tell ya, I don’t like the guy.

Maybe it’s wishful thinking, but I don’t think Mamet or Gordon intend Edmond to start out relatable and cathartic in the way the character in FALLING DOWN is supposed to. In his calmer moments there’s a dry humor about his sense of entitlement. He goes to a strip club, a peep show, an escort service, and a pimp, each time trying to be friendly and polite, but haggling about the price and then getting frustrated and saying “It’s too much!” You expect him to ask for the manager.

I found something really funny but authentic about the way he comes into these transactions (or the one with the three card monty dealer) fully aware that they are trying to scam him, and still thinking he can convince them he’s a good guy and they’ll give him a good deal. He has no compunction about telling the stripper (WILD THING Denise Richards, who I think is genuinely good in her scene), the peep show girl (Bai Ling, SOUTHLAND TALES, WILD WILD WEST) or the escort (Mena Suvari, CARRIE 2, later in Gordon’s STUCK) to their faces that he wants to have sex with them but only if it’s, like, at a huge discount. And thinks he can seem progressive by asking about how much of a cut they get. He’s looking out for them as much as for him, you know.

And he never seems to figure out that he doesn’t need to tell them he’s never done this before. They don’t believe him and wouldn’t care if they did.

The character definitely has a little in common with FARGO’s Jerry Lundegaard: an outward awkward politeness that chips away under pressure and reveals a suppressed malevolence. That really comes out when the pimp (Lionel Mark Smith, a veteran of Mamet’s THE POSTMAN ALWAYS RINGS TWICE, THINGS CHANGE, HOMICIDE, THE SPANISH PRISONER, STATE AND MAIN and SPARTAN, but also Gordon’s KING OF THE ANTS and STUCK) tries to mug him. He doesn’t just defend himself, he savagely mutilates the guy, and enjoys yelling every racist thing he can think of while he does it. And then feels like a new man.

Julia Stiles (also in STATE AND MAIN) gets the “and” credit among this impressive cast for her role as Glenna, a random waitress Edmond propositions after he can’t scrap up enough cash for various professionals. I love the glazed over half-listening look she gives as she’s trying to take his order and he’s excitedly giving her a speech about “being alive.” But Glenna is full of unpredictable turns: first, she’s charmed by his declaration that he’s going to go home with her and fuck her, and she does it. Second, when he’s in his underwear swinging a knife in the air crazily yelling racial slurs and explaining that he might’ve killed a guy, she says, “That’s wonderful!” Third, she finally feels uncomfortable and asks him to leave because he says that just taking acting classes doesn’t make her a real actor.

To me the most scathingly observant scene is when he becomes a crazy yelling dude on a subway and threatens an old lady with his knife. As terrified as all the innocent passengers are, this is far from the worst thing he’s done at that point. But the thing that makes it so true is that his rage comes from telling her his mother had a hat like hers and not getting much of a response. I’ve seen so many non-life-threatening versions of this scenario. You know what, man – some random stranger doesn’t owe you a conversation. In this case, she’s very correct to be suspicious of you – you’ve already murdered one to two people tonight, and are about to yell obscenities and racial slurs at her. But you’re incensed that she doesn’t take your comment the way you think she should.

As he’s getting worked up into a psychotic frenzy, in between his threats and slurs there’s alot of defensive stuff: “What am I, a dog?” “You don’t know who I am! Is everybody in this town insane?” “I don’t need you! I worked all my life! I worked all my life! I worked all my life.” And when he’s taken in to the police station, trying to explain the incident, he starts to say at one point, “I am a solid—“ And that’s the attitude that seemed very familiar, very current (or timeless) to me. This idea of this can’t happen to me, you can’t question me, I don’t deserve this, I’m a solid citizen, I’m a good person. The subtext being that there are those other people who do deserve this. Just not me.

Mamet’s play Edmond premiered in 1982, with not-yet-in-any-movies Kenneth Branagh in the lead, and it sounds like the movie (which was adapted by Mamet) is pretty much unchanged. So it’s hard to say whether or not the playwright’s self-declared transformation into a conservative post 9-11 is relevant to what he was trying to say with this racially incendiary story. I never felt like they were verging on “If you think about it, this psychotic bigot kind of has a point” like FALLING DOWN, but it has a similar issue that (until the subway car and church at the end) every black character we’re seeing is a criminal who tries to hurt him. But I think this is somewhat justified by a satirically clueless thing he says (SPOILER) to his black cellmate in prison: “You know, I always thought white people should be in prison. I know it’s the black race we keep there, but I always thought white people should be there. You know why? To be with the black people. Does that sound too simple to you?”

He literally thinks white people have to go to a prison to meet black people. That means they’re not working at Stearns & Harrington, or going to that stockbroker bar. The only black people Edmond talks to are the ones on the streets in the middle of the night when he’s trying to pay for sex. That’s the kind of limited experience with people that leads to his wife assuming the “girl” broke their lamp on purpose, out of spite.

It’s in that last stretch that the always delightful Bokeem Woodbine (THE BUTCHER, RIDDICK) gets to be the last one to hilariously react to Edmond’s hot air. He stands and squints at his new cellmate’s pseudo-enlightened jibber-jabber about “we can’t distinguish between anxiety and fear” and interjects a few grunts every once in a while like

EDMOND: I think we wish for it. Death. Or burglars. Don’t you think? I always knew I would end up here. Every fear hides a wish. I think I’m gonna like it here.



EDMOND: I think we’re like birds. We suspect when there’s going to be an earthquake. Birds know. They leave three days earlier.

CELLMATE: Birds leave when there’s gonna be an earthquake?

The cellmate listens to all that, looking vaguely amused, and then forces Edmond to blow him.

Woodbine is so great with so little dialogue. But I’m glad he gets another scene to do some philosophizing of his own. He’s really funny in that too.

In his journey, Edmond has encounters with a few Stuart Gordon Players: Frances Bay (THE PIT AND THE PENDULUM) as the fortune teller, Debi Mazar (SPACE TRUCKERS) as a madam, George Wendt (SPACE TRUCKERS, KING OF THE ANTS) as a Russian pawn shop owner, and of course Jeffrey Combs (RE-ANIMATOR, FROM BEYOND, THE PIT AND THE PENDULUM, ROBOT JOX, FORTRESS, CASTLE FREAK, STUCK) as a gay hotel clerk. It took me a second to recognize him. But it feels more to me like a Mamet movie. Gordon is just doing his thing to faithfully execute material he must’ve liked. It pushes buttons, it’s nasty, and the most uncomfortable thing he ever put on film, but he doesn’t throw in extra blood or anything.

Still, it’s an interesting intersection of his theater and film worlds. And though I’m a language-of-cinema guy and not at all a legitimate theater guy I’ve always found something appealing about movies like this. It has the limited locations and emphasis on performance and dialogue of a play, but it’s cinematic in its use of a moody jazz score (by Bobby Johnston, KING OF THE ANTS) and its seedy urban atmosphere.

“I like EDMOND” feels a little weird, so I’ll just say “EDMOND is an interesting ordeal to go through.”

Special thanks to my friend Jason B. for letting me use his Prime account!

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12 Responses to “Edmond”

  1. Yup. I saw this one in the theater but entered late for some reason and Edmond was already on his quest, which added more inexplicableness to the experience. Who is this guy, where is he going, why? What’s it all about, Edmond? And I remained in that state all the way up to, of course, the last moment, and then it was like: ah.

    Not a “good” movie, per se — you can really tell it’s an early Mamet play, that he is still figuring out how to wrangle his talent — but the kind of movie you’re glad you saw.

  2. I work for a video archive in Chicago. If you’re curious about any of Gordon’s theatre work, we’ve got some footage of it up on our site, shot way back in the 1970s. I link to it in the obit I wrote on our page here

    Stuart Gordon 1947-2020 - Media Burn Archive

    Stuart Gordon has died. In most of the obituaries you will read today, he will be largely (and justifiably) remembered for his film work. He came out of the gate with a classic in Re-Animator (1985), which was the first of many features he made for Charles Band’s Empire Pictures (rebranded as Full Moon Entertainment). If none of the follow-ups can quite claim to have caught the debut’s lightning in a bottle, each nevertheless brought to the screen a combination … Continue reading →

    (For some reason I wrote that EDMOND is less crazy than some of his earlier work, which I’m not sure is right. But anyway.)

    We’re also going to be putting up a short documentary about the Organic Theatre from this same era sometime in the next week. This is mostly footage of the group – including young Joe Mantegna and young Dennis Franz – rehearsing their play BLEACHER BUMS. Gordon (also young) gives several interviews about his general directing philosophy. BLEACHER BUMS is a hoot; in 1980 or so Gordon directed a TV adaptation of it for WTTW, Chicago’s PBS station. That can be found on You Tube, and I especially recommend it to anyone who’s missing baseball.

    Psyched for your SPACE TRUCKERS review.

  3. EDMOND (along with OLEANNA and his post-9/11 political heel turn) are what made me decide that maybe David Mamet’s work is actually usually pretty much just kinda bad.

    His whole thing is to poke you in the eye repeatedly and then ask why it hurts, and the answer is never more complicated than: “Dude! You just poked me in the eye!” Mamet’s admirers like to think there’s some insightful/satirical provocation going on in his scripts, but I don’t think so anymore. Mamet’s female and non-white characters are usually reductive at best or pointedly offensive at worst; his white male protagonists are usually violent, selfish, bigoted assholes who he portrays as roguish or misunderstood antiheroes; and his famously minimalist and repetative dialogue doesn’t actually contain much subtlety until his usual (and, I gotta admit, awesome) troupe of actors add a layer of feeling that just isn’t there on the page. Even his blockbuster original scripts (like THE VERDICT or THE UNTOUCHABLES) feature misogyny, wanton authoritarian cruelty, or other Frank Miller-ish ideas that Mamet definitely did not include by mistake.

    The only script I really like by Mamet is GLENGARRY GLEN ROSS, because there are no women (so he can’t portray them poorly), there are no minorities (so he can’t portray them poorly), and for once he seems to be GENUINELY CRITICAL of the white men who are his main subject of interest anyway. None of the white male leads in GLENGARRY come out looking roguish or misunderstood; for once he simply shows a cast of white male capitalists to be a bunch of amoral vipers who the audience is right to mistrust.

  4. I know I’ll be in the minority here, but I think EDMOND is fantastic. And isn’t the whole irony of the film that Edmond is a racist, and then (SPOILER) ends up falling in love with a black dude in prison? I know there’s an element of clumsiness to it (due to it being from 1982) but Edmond is never portrayed as a hero. He is a fool, confused by the realities of the world around him. I also certainly don’t believe Mamet’s REDBELT (2008) to be either misogynistic or racist. And that one is great too. Yes, Mamet always explores controversial themes but I think, for the most part, he tries to tackle them in the correct way.

  5. When Gordon died, this was the first thing I thought of tracking down. Because of Macy, I guess, but also coz I’ve never seen it. Now, I think I’ll wait til all this bullshit is over and hopefully Criterion will put out SPACE TRUCKERS in the meantime, coz I’ve been hot to watch that for years now. Even if it ain’t so hot, it’s still a great cast.

    Anyway, watch LAKE NOWHERE on A***** Prime. I’d like to talk to someone about it, and it’s not even an hour long.

  6. I wrote my first college term paper on this movie. I think I’ve seen it more than almost any other film, weirdly. It’s a favorite of mine. Something about it is just…hypnotic.

    Weirdly, I think this movie rose out of the ashes of the aborted HOUSE OF REANIMATOR, which was to star Macey. The gimmick was a riff on the Bush/Cheny dynamic where the calculating VP dies suddenly causing the White House staff to being in Herbert West to, uh… resuscitate the fallen leader. The project was ready to go – I think it even had a $10-million budget – but got canceled after 9/11.

  7. RE: MajorCalloway

    I have a very different read than you on Olleana. But it also depends on how the play is read/performed. It’s a piece like The Merchant of Venice where, depending on the intonation added to certain words and the perspective of the director/reader, it can read as either a comedy or a tragedy. There is a lot going on there and many layers to explore. It’s not terribly pleasant, sure. But it’s not latter day Neil LaBute.

    And the interesting thing about Glengarry Glen Ross is how the most famous scene isn’t in the play and how the addition of this new scene totally shatters the structure of the original framing. Without the “Always Be Closing” speech, the play denies us the context of who is conning whom. We enter scenes in bars and Chinese restaurants without knowing who’s the salesman and who’s mark. Only as the scene unfolds do we discover the truth of the matter. And then we’re faced with a scene where both parties are salesmen and STILL there is a con-job in the offing.

    I saw the play once, in a tiny theater in SF. Not a notable production. No name actors. Just a little 80 seat black box. But there was something new I discovered in the staging. Something I never noticed reading it on the page or seeing it on the screen. In the last moments, as the old fool is carried out in cuffs, the young buck looks on in triumph. He has won. Proved his virility and cunning. Demonstrated that he is at the top of the food chain. And then the men share a look. And suddenly, the young buck realizes that he and the old fool are one in the same and that only time separates them. Someday, and maybe someday sooner than the young buck would care to think possible, today’s champion will become tomorrow’s prey. More meat for the grinder.

    It’s something that isn’t there on the page, but was most certainly there for me in the audience. A totally new revelation that I had missed before. Am I crazy? Is that element always there?

    Out front of the theater, they didn’t have a poster for the production. They just had a giant blowup logline of the play and a list of the actors. I will forever regret not getting to take that “poster” home and hang it on my wall. I saw the final production of the play, so it was possible, but couldn’t figure out who to ask.

  8. If I may correct you, HOUSE OF RE-ANIMATOR was announced in 2006, but they didn’t get it off the ground and then Bush was out of office and it wasn’t topical anymore. Seemed like an exciting prospect at the time, though.

  9. I just now this very minute put up the documentary I was talking about earlier, The Organic Theater Company of Chicago. Check it out here

    The Organic Theater Company of Chicago - Media Burn Archive

    0:22Copy video clip URL Credits, followed by a text crawl explaining the mission of the company. 1:02Copy video clip URL Excerpt from The Bleacher Bums; Joe Mantegna, Dennis Frantz [and some other guys] perform. 2:30Copy video clip URL The voice of Stuart Gordon is heard over the performance; he explains, to an interviewer, the rapport that has developed between the players in the Organic Theater, and the degree to which this has allowed the company to put on original work. … Continue reading →

    If this has made you Bleacher Bums curious, that’s over here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WqFt0RYmqw


    I fucking LOVE your website. Thanks for turning me on to it. Spent a lot of today tired after perusing your catalogue late last night. Can’t wait to watch this new doc.

  11. Another great regret of my life is narrowly missing out on the chance to work with Stuart Gordon. He put up RE-ANIMATOR: THE MUSICAL at the Hayworth theater, shortly before I started working at that venue. It was, iirc, the last play performed before my tenure as Directing Manager of the venue.

  12. Tawdy– Hey, thanks, glad you’re liking the Media Burn sight! It’s always good to hear from someone, since it so often feels like we’re just casting our videos into the void. I hope MB can provide you with many more sleepless nights to come.

    Too bad you missed out on the Re-Animator musical. I’ve always been curious about that one. I hope they gave the cat a song.

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