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Superman (2025)

If you’ve had your fill of comic book movies that’s between you and your Zod, but SUPERMAN (2025) is a particularly good one. It’s literally and figuratively colorful, it’s perfectly cast, it’s joyously funny and silly, but it deeply and sincerely loves its characters, especially its cornball hero and his do-gooder point-of-view. Also it heavily features cinema’s first great super hero pet. Being the rare one of these with a writer/director (James Gunn, SLITHER), not to mention the advantage of being the official kick off to a new do-over DC Comics (Detective Comics Comics) cinematic universe, it has a very specific setting, tone and visual style. In that sense it reminds me of what I liked about comic book movies in the ‘90s, but otherwise it feels very modern.

I personally believe that there’s more than one way to make a good movie, so I will not be disavowing Zack Snyder’s MAN OF STEEL, but I like that this one takes the exact opposite approach. Snyder’s version emphasized the awe – it was about a god-like being coming to a quasi-realistic earth, and how humanity reacts. We witnessed him as mortals, looking up trying to catch a shaky glimpse of him in the sky. Gunn gives us a world where “meta-humans” have been around for centuries, and Superman has been public for three years, so people are used to it. Right off the bat Gunn and director of photography Henry Braham (ROAD HOUSE remake) put the camera steady on Superman’s face when he flies, like we’re right there with him. He’s one of us.

For better or worse I think every previous Superman movie has fixated on what is needed to translate Superman for movie audiences, and/or for modern ones. How do we make them believe a man can fly? How do we make them think a guy like this is still cool? SUPERMAN is the first to have confidence in our ability to appreciate a raw, unfiltered comic book Superman. Gunn has his spins and takes on various aspects but he’s not saying “okay, here’s an angle on Superman that makes him relevant.” He’s saying, “This is why I love Superman and I think you will agree!”

That goes not just for the character, but the whole world around him, in all its goofy glory. I admit I was skeptical before Gunn made a talking raccoon a major character in the Marvel universe, but now I get it. The more ridiculous the concept the more rewarding if you figure out how to make it work. In the opening Superman has lost a fight for the first time, and he bloodily returns to his secret Antarctica ice fortress where a team of loyal robots help him heal with the power of magnified sunlight. And as you’ve probly heard by now he’s aided by Krypto, a little dog who can’t talk but he can fly and has super strength and wears a red cape. The state of the comic book movie in 2025 is that you not only can have Krypto, but you don’t even have to give one word of explanation.

In Gunn’s interpretation Krypto is a pain in the ass who always wants to bite and wrestle and doesn’t know his strength. (I wonder if there’s some Krypto superfan out there sore about portraying him as poorly behaved?) I often quote MOONRISE KINGDOM when the girl asks “Was he a good dog?” and the boy says, “Who’s to say?” Well, Superman admits that Krypto is not a very good dog, but he cares about him anyway, and the plot depends on Lex Luthor (JUROR #2 himself Nicholas Hoult) being able to bait him by kidnapping his dog. (Is it possible that the success of JOHN WICK paved the way for cinematic Krypto the Super Dog?)

I don’t know how the fuck they do it but they found David Corenswet (the sleazy projectionist from PEARL) and he instantly embodies everything I associate with Superman – the look, the deep but friendly voice, the sudden dorkiness when he notices Krypto wrecked his living room and asks him, “What the hey dude?” Though they explain how his Clark Kent glasses scramble our brains’ perception of his face he also goes through the trouble to put on a messy-haired, bad-postured klutz performance for his newspaper reporter day job secret identity. It’s fun for him. Alone with Lois (Rachel Brosnahan, Sam Raimi’s 50 States of Fright episodes) later they laugh about it.

Daily Planet reporter Lois begins the movie already dating Superman and knowing his secret, at a slightly precarious stage in the relationship because of its unusual challenges, but those don’t at this point include her getting kidnapped or falling off of things and having to be caught. In fact, she uses her investigatory skills (teamed with technological genius super hero Mr. Terrific [Edi Gathegi, THE HARDER THEY FALL, the vampire with dreadlocks in the TWILIGHT movies]) to rescue Superman and many others from an extra-dimensional black site.

Which brings us to our Luthor, in my (controversial) opinion done well in a movie for the first time ever. He’s a scheming tech dude with numerous government and military contacts and a WOLF OF WALL STREET energy, introduced running a command center by pointing at various computer stooges like an overdramatic conductor. There are thankfully no one-to-one stand-ins for real people here but he is a genuine comic book super villain (i.e. an evil genius) with many of the pathetic and insidious qualities of our current sniveling oppressors.

I adore Gunn’s first DC movie, THE SUICIDE SQUAD, and I’m so happy that this seems to be another corner of the same universe (with one direct connection). It isn’t in the same raucous R-rated spirit but it shares the same view of humanity (optimistic) and authority (cynical). Okay, yeah, it’s currently hard to swallow the idea of Luthor getting in trouble for what he does, but up to that point it’s an accurate cartoon version of contemporary evil: collaborating with an authoritarian government to wage war against an unarmed populace, using right wing media to propagandize the public against a perceived other, getting the government to rent his private military (“Planet Watch”) and prison (in a “pocket dimension” for maximum security). In the movie’s most upsetting move he uses facial recognition software to identify a random falafel cart merchant (Dinesh Thyagarajan) who tried to help Superman, brings him to the prison and executes him. He’s Stephen Miller evil even though his tools include black holes and fast-growing kaiju distractions. And you know what, there was a time when the idea of a billionaire being driven by profound jealousy of the attention Superman gets seemed like a laughable old comic book thing. Now it’s a fucking fact.

Superman is a real American who loves his redneck parents and the farm he grew up on but also the big multi-cultural city he follows his dreams and falls in love in – why would he have to choose one and be against the other? That’s fucking stupid. He’s down with everybody and everybody’s down with him, or at least that was the case for a few years. Currently he’s in hot water with some of the media (his girlfriend) for stopping U.S. ally Boravia’s invasion of Jarhanpur without consulting the government. I’m not sure how much Lois actually cares about that but you know how big time newspaper reporters are about authority these days. Superman doesn’t give a fuck about the politics of it, just that “People were going to die,” so he prevented that. I don’t think this could’ve been meant as the Israel-Palestine commentary some have read it as – it’s more of the STAR WARS phenomenon of timeless patterns appearing to be torn from the headlines – but it definitely speaks to my feelings about all that. History and geopolitics being complicated is no excuse not to act, because the immorality of atrocities is very straight forward.

You know how nice Superman is? When he stops a rampaging giant monster with Mr. Terrific, Hawkgirl (Isabel Merced, MADAME WEB, ALIEN: ROMULUS) and Green Lantern Guy Gardner (Nathan Fillion, SERENITY) they make fun of him for trying to spare the monster’s life. And he makes a sincere “we can work this out” type pitch to Luthor’s vicious henchpeople, including spiky nanobot-powered shapeshifter The Engineer (María Gabriela de Faría, THE EXORCISM OF GOD). Superman seems to have higher ideals than the other super heroes, though we still like them, particularly technological genius Mr. Terrific, who approaches a reality-tearing dimensional rift with the demeanor of a quietly fed up cool uncle. His delivery of the line “This is why you don’t create a damn pocket universe” will stick with me.

I still think all the discourse about collateral damage in MAN OF STEEL was silly, but yes, I too love Superman’s concern for every living being around. In one scene of urban destruction he actually bothers to rescue a squirrel! That almost seems like making fun of the whole idea, but truly it’s great to see him fly by a kaiju-torched office building and ask if everybody’s okay. He has intimate moments with people, like when he holds up a collapsed building to let a car drive out from under it and he and the driver make eye contact. Imagine if you shared that moment with Superman! You would never get over it.

That’s an element of the world-building too – when loudspeakers announce a mandatory evacuation I suppose that would be a familiar thing for citizens of Metropolis. I love that it’s not just generic crowds of people running – there are characters. I noticed a specific young hipster’s outfit, a woman carrying two turtles in a tank, things like that. It reminded me of when you have a particularly good artist and they can’t help but throw in unnecessary background details – some interesting person in a window or down on the sidewalk or on a TV screen. There are a million lives and stories going on in every direction.

I don’t entirely disagree with the description “overstuffed,” but I lean more toward it being overwhelmingly stuffed, as a deliberate stylistic choice. It’s not like the older comic book movies where it’s this is the one where Superman fights Zod, this is the one where Batman fights the Penguin and Catwoman. Even these days the major characters usually get an origin, the minor ones are usually being set up for a spin-off or a larger part in the sequel. To me this feels more like an animated series like Harley Quinn or Young Justice that drops us into a populous, pre-existing DC universe. It’s a highly detailed alternate world with its own corporations, government entities, international conflicts, cable news shows, even a coffee chain and once popular pop punk band called the Mighty Crabjoys.

That comes up in what is, believe it or not, a crucial scene in the movie: the one where Lois calls herself “just a punk rock girl from [whatever she said her home town was]” and Superman says he’s punk too, listing some bands he grew up listening to (she makes fun of them as pop punk). Then he makes the argument that maybe his way of being kind and helping people is the real punk rock.

I admit I flinched a little, feeling twinges of residual Subaru embarrassment. But also it’s a funny conversation because Clark is a total square saying what a total square would say, and I think Lois is both laughing inside and swooning at what a lovable dork he is.

The more I think about it the more I love it because here’s James Gunn, who came from the genuinely fringe/outsider/DIY/transgressive cinematic world of Troma, tried to maintain his edgelordery and indie side projects while writing SCOOBY-DOO movies and shit, eventually grew into the big budget mainstream filmmaker he is now, which I personally feel represents someone who has grown as a person and as an artist without turning his back on the ideals of his younger self. But even making his previous super hero movies for giant corporations he could argue he was the guy on the outside, the one making the misfit toy space movie from the comic no normal person ever heard of, or the bawdy R-rated sequel where he gets to kill off a bunch of DC characters and make a joke about it. Now all the sudden he finds himself as the actual boss of a comic book universe, writing and directing the biggest, most mainstream, most boy scout super hero there is, and his way of going against the grain is that there’s no irony or hedging about it. He’s not saying okay, but here is the dark edge of Superman, this is what’s fucked up about him if you think about it, this is how he could go wrong. None of that. He believes in Superman.

So I think Gunn is making sort of a self-deprecating joke, comparing himself to a pop punk loving boy scout, but also I think he agrees with Superman. In a world so set up to divide us, to exploit us, to make us feel victimized and powerless and angry, protected only by shields of cynicism and snark, it is kind of an act of rebellion to be as nice and caring as Superman.

How is Superman current in 2025? He’s not. He’s some dork who still likes a band from when he was a teenager and this is the first time he’s hearing that they might be considered uncool. But he’s a good person and stays true to that, and that transcends having good taste in bands. You convinced me, James Gunn. I believe in him too. I can’t wait to see this again.

WARNING: SPECIAL SUPER SPOILER NOTE SECTION:

(this is a mandatory evacuation)

* The only provocative change to Superman tradition that I noticed is the twist that Superman’s message from his Kryptonian parents apparently has a portion he’d never seen that reveals they wanted him to conquer and populate earth. It’s kind of odd but meaningful, I think, to put his goodness on himself and his adopted parents and take away the old fashioned destiny bullshit.

(That said, there is one or more very obvious way they could explain this twist being a misunderstanding.)

By the way Bradley Cooper (THE MIDNIGHT MEAT TRAIN) is seen in a hologram as Superman’s father Jor-El, and my wife and I both believed his mother was played by Lady Gaga, but apparently the credited name Angela Sarafyan is not a pseudonym but a real actress who was in THE TWILIGHT SAGA: BREAKING DAWN PART 2 and many other things. Was it unintentional that it looked like an A STAR IS BORN reunion? Are we crazy? My friend Matt Lynch thought it was her too. Oh well, we enjoyed the illusion.

* There are lots of good supporting players that I didn’t have time to mention, but one of the best subplots involves surprising chick magnet Jimmy Olsen (Skyler Gisondo, “Young Moe,” THE THREE STOOGES) stealing Lex Luthor’s bubbly influencer girlfriend Eve Teschmacher (model and actress Sara Sampaio). Wendell Pierce (GET ON THE BUS) makes a very good Perry White. Frank Grillo (WOLF WARRIOR 2) is in a few scenes as A.R.G.U.S. director (military official) Rick Flagg Sr., and it is not necessary to know this at all but he’s supposed to be the father of the Rick Flagg in the SUICIDE SQUAD movies and he was introduced in Gunn’s very enjoyable animated series Creature Commandos. Grillo couldn’t dye his hair white like the cartoon because of commitments to other movies. Next time, baby.

* I think the score (credited to David Fleming [THE ALTO KNIGHTS] and John Murphy [MIAMI VICE]) is really good when it’s weird techno stuff for the bad guys, and overall it works, but I do think it’s a cheat to lean on John Williams’ theme. I know there are big footsteps to fill and all but that didn’t stop Hans Zimmer from knocking that shit out of the park. This Superman deserves his own brand new theme is what I’m saying.

* Luthor’s powerful masked henchman Ultraman turns out to be a flawed clone of Superman. I see him as a parallel to generative A.I. because Luthor hypes him up as superior to Superman but he’s an empty, lifeless xerox who can’t think for himself and depends on instructions from a team of technicians who closely studied all the moves of the real Superman.

 

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39 Responses to “Superman (2025)”

  1. *SPOILERS*

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    I’m surprised that you didn’t have anything to say about Supergirl, the giggly drunkard. It’s a new angle for the character on media other than comics, but I can picture them taking that stuff some really interesting places.

    But the movie itself is interesting, too. I like this Clark more than any before, the way that he’s an unapologetic dork who listens to music that’s regarded as lame in-universe, watches his language, and genuinely loves humanity even as he proves as irritably testy as the next person. I dunno about the presence of the Justice Gang; the characters, despite Gunn’s words, didn’t feel like they served the story in a way that just Metamorpho, the only one who does anything of consequence, does. And I found the way Gunn deploys the usage of animals–be they Krypto the Super-Dog or a tiny squirrel–to be a bit obnoxious. Shortcuts to the ol’ heartstrings.

    But overall, I’d say that this was probably the best Superman movie we’ve ever had. I’m not one to get precious about Donner’s. It was a great movie for its time. For its time. And the way that people still get precious about what it does has me shrugging; I always figure that you had to view it as a kid or experience it contemporaneously. I never did either of those things, and in the face of a post Raimi Spider-Man movie, it landed with a bit of a thud. I’d say that this reminds me of Raimi’s Spidey, in that it clearly aims to do a sincere take on these sorts of characters even as it pulls a bit of mischievous mean-spiritedness, and for the most part, I think it lands.

  2. SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS. Well, I wasn’t going to get into that, it’s just a little joke at the end. But I have read the comic book the movie is supposed to be inspired by. You may have also but if not it has that exact premise they set up here, that she likes to go to planets with red suns so she can get drunk. The story is kind of a fantasy version of TRUE GRIT with Supergirl as Rooster Cogburn, it has great art and is a fun time for a while but (for me) doesn’t really come together. Still, it’s great material to inspire a movie and I think Craig Gillespie is a pretty good choice for director – when I finally saw CRUELLA it was surprisingly good and stylish.

    I didn’t feel to poke the bear in this review (other than implying my dislike of Hackman as Luthor) but I agree with you on the Donner movie. I did see and like it as a kid but it just didn’t imprint on my like some of the other movies of the era and it just doesn’t do much for me now. But I know most people think that’s crazy.

  3. *Spoilers*

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    I really loved Cavill in the role and enjoy his films for what they are, but there’s really no better example of the contrast between Snyder and Gunn’s approach than how Superman ultimately treats the villain.

    In Man of Steel, he ends up executing General Zod. In Superman, he shows an undeserving Lex Luthor compassion. One of those definitely understands the character of Superman better than the other.

    It’s also worth pointing out how much of a superhero redemption arc this movie ended up being for Edi Gathegi. His Darwin character was notoriously done dirty in Xmen: First Class, but he’s easily a highlight in Superman.

    (My vote for his best line of dialogue has to be , “I don’t need your help! I’m goddamn Mr. Terrific!”)

  4. Great write up,Vern. Some Things I noticed:

    * Alan Tudyk as Robot #4, right next door to his current awesome title role in RESIDENT ALIEN, which is a goddamn delight.

    * Superman tunnels thru concrete and reminds me of his studio mate, Bugs Bunny. I would’ve clapped my hands if he said “I knew I shoulda took the left turn at Albakurky”.

    * In my head canon, Jimmy Olsen accidentally got some Kryptonian pheromone stuff on his skin while hanging out with Supes at the Fortress in a previous adventure. It’ll wear off eventually, but in the meantime it drives the ladies wild.

    * The rapidly growing Kaiju looked a heck of a lot like he’s from the same genus as Stitch.

    * Luthor is being sent to the same prison where THE SUICIDE SQUAD comes from. He probably already has the joint all wired up and will have it as cushy as Paulie from GOODFELLAS.

    * It’s good to see Michael Ian Black in this. I want to see Thomas Lennon, Ken Marino and more The State alumni in future DCU movies.

    My friend said to me today that he hasn’t seen a movie since Raimi’s SPIDEY 2 that made him feel just like a kid reading an awesome comic book with excitement and joy. That sounds just about right. In these dark times, you might say it’s a small victory but every squirrel counts.

  5. As a life long comic reader, a fan of James Gunn for 20 years, and a moderate Superman enthusiast, it was really hard to check expectations going into my first viewing. I loved a lot of individual parts, but somehow the totality just ends up at “really good.” This is probably about on par with Guardians of the Galaxy for me, whereas I absolutely loved The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker.

    Some of my favorite parts-
    Clark/Supes and Lois’ relationship. I appreciate the need to start mid-story, but it felt a little awkward until it settled in with the “interview.” That is the kind of scene I imagine a writer high-fiving themselves after finishing it, it does such a great job of establishing their characters, their relationship, the world’s relationship with Superman and CLark’s feelings about that, and getting the exposition out for the events that happened before the movie.

    Mr. Terrific- after making 4 comic book movies focusing on weirdo C-list to Z-list characters and making them cool or lovable, James Gunn makes a movie about the most famous comic character of all time… and gives the most shine to C-list character Mr. Terrific! The performance and the look are cool as shit, and the bubble sequence is my vote for coolest part of the movie.

    Casting- just great all around. I was especially tickled that Gunn wrote this Jimmy Olson as a master cocksmith who all the ladies love and then he cast… Skyler Gisondo! great instincts, if that actor was a typical heartthrob he would come off a lot grosser.

    POTENTIAL SPOILERS OR DETAILS AHEAD

    Krypto- Obviously Krypto is awesome, but I also appreciated how he became a central plot point. The fact that Superman almost going too far and publicly looking crazy results from him worrying about his (or his cousin’s) dog is wonderfully human and relatable.

    Also I loved Lois taking the initiative when Supes is locked up, and the Daily Planet staff actually having something to do in the story’s last act made those characters feel more integrated than glorified extras.

    Monkey-Bot Troll Farm! – I laughed so hard at this that I couldn’t hear if anyone else in the theater laughed at all.

    Peacemaker pop- I loved The Suicide Squad and the Peacemaker show, but I have never really known whether general audiences watched/enjoyed them. I guess over the years since its Covid-theatrical release more people have gotten onboard, because I was delighted by the HUGE pop in my theater for Cena/Peacemaker’s cameo. Probably the biggest reaction I heard from my audience outside of some of the Krypto moments.

    I am having a hard time figuring out why I did not quite love this movie, as I loved so many elements and it didn’t really have any major problems that dragged it down. The visuals might be my biggest issue. I don’t know if Gunn is bumping up against the limits of his directing skills with characters this powerful, but I do know he needs to cut down on the spinning camera move before it becomes a meme like Zack Snyder-slo mo or JJ Abramas-lens flare. Like I said, the “bubble” sequence was really cool, and I liked when Supes spin-blasted the Raptor soldiers en masse, but other times it was not effective (the attack on the Fortress of Solitude) and overuse did not help. They spent a shit ton of money on this, why does a lot of the action in Guardians of the Galaxy look better? Maybe all that pre-vis and effects work Marvel does ahead of time limits creativity overall, but it does seem to produce a higher level of polish. I wish the Engineer’s nano-tech looked cooler/more distinct. I did like the cube/fractal theme in a lot of the sci-fi stuff, but once they had the big action sequence with Superman in the quantum river or whatever it became visually incoherent nonsense.

  6. COMPLETELY NON-SPOILERY general style discussion

    I would love someone to find a middle ground between Zack Snyder creating one-to-one copies of splash pages from comics and using excessive slo-mo so the audience can see the poses, versus Gunn spinning and speeding around like a madman, often in close-up or with the camera centered around one person. Snyder’s style isn’t dynamic or energetic enough to carry an entire action sequence, but Gunn’s style could use a little more of that “epic” bombast and an occasional extra beat to let the image or action land.

    In comics it can be frustrating when a series changes artists due to deadlines or contracts, but it can be great when it is a creative decision to shift artists based on specific storylines or issue themes. You can bring in one artist who is really good at epic action, then switch over to a more surreal or abstract style for a dream or delusion issue, then switch to someone who handles character beats better for a dialogue-filled epilogue issue, etc. This movie had me wishing we could do the same with individual parts of movies.

    Also all the choices about what story to tell and how feel different in a movie vs. a monthly comic. Movies take so much time and effort to make, if you don’t like Snyder’s Superman you have to wait years and multiple movies to get a different version. In the comics you have new books every month, and multiple series and miniseries. So if you want a break from grimdark Superman you just pick up a Superman book by a lighter writer/artist team. I like so much of Gunn’s version of the DCU here, but coming into a movie mid-universe and then leaving mid-universe feels different than in a monthly comic. Seeing potential for future ideas or stories in a comic, you know they might be picked up next month, or moved along a little at a time. We literally don’t know when/what the next full Superman movie appearance will be.

    BACK TO SPOILER TERRITORY
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    So when you get to the end of this movie, and the Justice Gang intervene in an international political situation, in that moment we get a resolution to that particular moment of conflict, but no time for discussion or hints about where it might go beyond that. The little moment with Flagg suggests the movie realizes the situation is more complicated, but we don’t know if it will ever get continued/addressed. I have to go outside the context of the movie to guess at how it will come up. When James Gunn mentioned that they were working on a movie for The Authority, I thought it was a weird choice in general and especially for the first few years of the new movie universe. BUT now I see how it could be important. The Engineer in this movie is a character from the Authority (which started as an Image/Wildstorm comic before DC bought them out and integrated their characters). And Hawkgirl straight up murdering a foreign leader (the moment that creates the most questions/friction in the “happy” ending of this movie) is VERY much in line with The Authority’s behavior, in fact they even had a bird-woman (Shen Li Min) in the group that Hawkgirl could replace. So I can see how once metahumans get involved, some go to far, they split off, etc., and then come into conflict with Supes. In fact before DC owned The Authority characters, a DC writer made their own riff on the team called The Elite so that he could put them into conflict with Superman and interrogate the popularity of edgy, destructive 2000s comic characters.

    For non-comic readers, The Authority were huge in the 2000s and changed the face of superhero comics as they violently killed dictators, intervened in conflicts, and told the world to behave or get spanked, all with an exciting and detailed art-style that came to be called “widescreen action.” There is a direct line from Mark Millar taking over the Authority book and parodying/murdering the Avengers, to him being hired to write The Ultimates (the modern and gritty reboot of The Avengers for the Ultimate Marvel universe) at a time when no cared about the Avengers, to the movie version getting made and taking many direct inspirations from The Ultimates.

  7. grimgrinningchris

    July 17th, 2025 at 4:36 am

    Adam and Vern
    I have lots of thoughts on the movie that I’ll get to eventually but something I was going to mention on the Wedding Crashers revisit but now I totally have to.
    In that one, Vern used the word “cocksman” and now Adam has just used “cocksmith”.
    Both were used ages ago in a review in some porn magazine about some porno that I read like 30 years ago. Both used to describe 80s/early 90s adult film star, Jon Dough. And I’ve always remembered it but don’t think I’ve ever heard either term since… until the past few days on this very sight. Ha.

  8. I’ve been kind of flabbergasted by the longevity of the DCEU, or Snyder-verse, whatever is the preferred name. That it lasted beyond two movies is kind of incredible – I found BATMAN v SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE so infuriatingly bad I’m still fuming about it nine years later (yes, really). I guess it’s only because WONDER WOMAN and AQUAMAN turned out to be surprisingly decent that the DCEU managed to limp on for 11 movies, and despite the greatness of THE SUICIDE SQUAD, in the end they had to bring in the Rock to euthanize the whole franchise.

    Anyway, I went in to see SUPERMAN with tempered expectations (by the 82% RT score*) but ended up absolutely loving it. I really really appreciated the breakneck pace and even two hour running time – other makers of comic book movies should take a hint. The plot was nothing mind-blowing but clever enough and the cast was great all around. I particularly like David Corenswet as the new Superman. His delivery of the line “Yeah, and he’s not even a very good dog, but he’s out there alone and he’s probably scared” made a real impression on me. Like what is this? A Superman with both empathy and charisma? Unheard of!

    I’ve seen a lot of people praising the Mr. Terrific fight scene, and it was indeed good, but my personal favorite action scene is the one involving the nanites on the football field. SPOILERS! I found it both thrilling and refreshing to see a credible move (at least according to its in-story sci-fi logic) to kill Superman without the use of Kryptonite. It was both cool and gross and kind of scary, but the whole sequence had the triumphant underscoring throughout. Really really good stuff in my opinion.

    Oh, and by the way, is anyone else as bothered as I am by this talk that Superman’s been depowered in the new movie? After having actually seen the movie, I saw no evidence whatsoever that this Superman is any weaker than previous ones, at least not compared to the Cavill one. The only thing people point to is that it opens with him having had his ass kicked, but SPOILER it turns out the thing that beat him up is his own marginally stronger clone. So what argument is there really for that depowering assertion?

    *Anything under a 90% RT score is a toss up for me, I’ve found. I went in with real excitement to see the Thunderbolts movie (88% RT) and was severely underwhelmed.

  9. I’m not sure yet if this dethrones SUPERMAN IV: THE QUEST FOR PEACE as the best Superman movie (I swear to you I am not joking), but I really enjoyed it.

    IMO, Zack Snyder fundamentally misunderstood the character of Superman, but Gunn (and Corenswet) get it right. Theirs is a much more human Superman, one who gets beat up and makes mistakes, but who is always trying to do the right thing, no matter how big or small the action. I like that this is a movie about the struggles and pressures of being inherently good in a society that does not trust or value goodness. I don’t think anything in here is a direct allegory to our reality, but it does feel very timely, with invasive wars, secret prisons, evil tech oligarchs, and media manipulation (Luthor’s smear campaign against Superman is reminiscent of the effort to cancel James Gunn which led to this very movie and cinematic universe). But this is a world with Superman, who can inspire journalists to fight for truth, and bring bad guys to justice. I teared up at a couple spots. “Hopepunk” might be cheesy, but it fits the character. I still have that closing song stuck in my head.

    As a kid I only ever got my hands on random comic issues. I feel this film captures that experience, of picking up a random comic and falling into a universe midway through a story. Being exposed to new characters and parts of the world that existed before you got here. Tonally it also reminds me of the Giffen/DeMatteis Justice League run, which was mostly comedic but could have real stakes in the superhero adventures. Half the cast looks like Kevin Maguire drew them, but Nathan Fillion’s Guy Gardner really looks and feels like he stepped right off the page.

    The film is busy, but it left me wanting more– more mild-manned Clark Kent, more Clark/Lois interaction, more with the Daily Planet and Justice Gang and Ma and Pa. So I think it did its job.

    I like that they did a little remix on the John Williams theme. Batman has had many good film scores, but John Williams’s Superman is *the* superhero theme.

    Fans of this film who have the time should try out Superman & Lois, the recent CW series. It’s more grounded than this movie (most of the time), but the characters are in a similar vein. It features my favorite post-Reeve Superman in Tyler Hoechlin and probably my all-time favorite Lois in Elizabeth Tulloch. (The best portrayals of Lex, for me, are Clancy Brown in the animated series and, I kid you not, Jon Cryer in the Supergirl TV show.)

    Mr. Shemp: Tom Lennon has previously appeared as Batman’s doctor in THE DARK KNIGHT RISES and Mr. Mxyzptlk on Supergirl. I would be down for David Wain as J. Wilbur Wolfingham, Joe Lo Truglio as the Prankster, and Ken Marino as Terra-Man.

  10. Universal★Rundle

    July 17th, 2025 at 8:02 am

    I like Vern’s note about SUPERMAN feeling overwhelmingly stuffed – I saw some concern about it having too many characters based on the previews, but when I went back to the All-Star Superman comics before it came out, hot damn those were stuffed full. So many tossed-off characters and sci-fi ideas packed into a page – I guess in a comic you can get away with that, because you can take everything in at your own pace, but it helped me get on Gunn’s wavelength a bit better: He wasn’t just trying to cram in B-plots and C-plots, like other overstuffed superhero movies, he was being exuberant because exuberant is fun. Freaky, mutated “Mr. Handsome” driving the cart in Lex’s pocket dimension, kaijus growing like Magic Grow dinosaurs, the interdimensional sprite casually getting whapped with a bat in the background – it all felt of a piece with that.

    What was different from the All-Star Superman comics for me, though, was that Grant Morrison made all that seem so smart – his technobabble was real sci-fi, his Superman was a credible super genius too. Gunn’s world is so dumbed-down in comparison. Again, maybe that’s a conscious choice for a fast-paced, wide-release movie, but his Lex just doesn’t come off as brilliant in the same way, his Superman is a sweet lunkhead, and the whiz-bang wonder is rooted in big, Saturday morning cartoon emotion, but not genuinely chewy ideas. Emotion is clearly more important in a movie if you have to choose, but man, I wish it could be both – one review I saw said, “The main flaws of the film are a) stupidity, b),” etc., and I was like, damn, that feels pretty spot on.

    Also, like Andrew said above, I dug how it combined sincerity with “a bit of mischievous mean-spiritedness,” but I felt like a genuinely surprising amount of that mean-spiritedness was directed toward women: the idea of Superman having a super-harem constantly in the news, Jimmy Olsen putting Eve Teschmacher in his phone as “Mutant Toes” and seeming to find her disgusting – it was all meant to be cheeky and laughable, but there was a point where the by-teenage-boys-for-teenage-boys vibe left a sour taste in my mouth. I loved the Supergirl scene at the end, though – surprisingly raunchy, with Superman as the straight man, Supergirl acting more punk than anyone instead of just getting more ironic, PG-rated ogling.

  11. Put me in the camp of liking it a lot, but not quite loving it. To me the “in media res” startup was both the film’s strength and biggest weakness – it didn’t feel the need to establish who Superman is, and it just dives right into a story about how Superman is so important the whole movie is about a diabolical plot to eliminate him. But I wanted to be shown Superman being super, just a little more – the quick shot of him swooping in to shield the little girl from exploding debris took my breath away in the trailer, and I found myself wanting just one sequence of this version of Superman doing his thing, rather than being stymied by the Justice Gang or being assaulted by Ultraman and the Engineer. It’s a quibble but to me it kept the movie from tipping over into a truly great experience. The counterexamples that kept coming to mind were Brandon Routh saving the airplane in SUPERMAN RETURNS, and especially the No Man’s Land sequence in WONDER WOMAN.

    The part that worked the best for me was the apartment interview. I loved seeing “Clark” shift into character as Superman and then get frustrated and tongue tied at Lois not just accepting that everything he did was awesome.

    And pretty much everything with Mr Terrific. That dude stole the show, and also had the most exciting “superhero” sequence in his assault on the enemy base with Lois.

    Pretty good movie overall! I will totally be there for the next one.

  12. I’ve been whatevs on seeing this one anytime, but this review pushes me into the “genuinely looking forward” column, so, that’s something. A delightful, uplifting review. thanks, Vern!

  13. Yeah, I loved this one. Literally couldn’t be happier with it.

    On the score:

    I think this one earns its use of the Williams theme. Have another watch of SUPERMAN RETURNS (or don’t; it really fucking sucks) and compare how it uses those themes to how this one does. In SUPERMAN RETURNS, it is a note for note, down to the smallest orchestral flourish, copy and paste of the Williams music. It’s great music, but it’s so hollow in the movie. It’s contorting itself to make the music fit, and it ultimately just feels cheap and unearned.

    Or, if you really want to hurt yourself, look at how JUSTICE LEAGUE (2017) trots the theme out like it’s Jeb Bush.

    This new one acknowledges that at this point in our pop cultural history, that theme is to Superman as Jingle Bells is to Christmas, BUT, it doesn’t treat every note as sacrosanct. Whilst this score doesn’t directly do anything melodically from Zimmer’s score (which for the record, is one of the greatest scores of all time), I still hear a lot Zimmer’s sensibilities all over the redressing of Williams’s melodic ideas; the slamming percussion, the punchy mix that cuts through all of the bombast on screen, the way it turns familiar fragments of the Williams melodies into repeated phrases that shift over new chord arrangements. There’s the frequent use of electric guitar, and one particular cue so prominently features a big, bold, triumphant slide guitar part that I simply cannot believe it’s not a salute to Zimmer’s theme.

    Great fucking movie.

  14. *spoilers!*

    @ Tobias

    Yes, I’m surprised people who have seen the film continue to complain about Supes getting his ass kicked. As you note, he’s essentially fighting a version of himself that doesn’t pull any punches. It’s entirely understandable, especially considering the way Superman spends most of the encounters just trying to defuse the situation.

    @ Bill Reed

    I also consider Superman 4 to be, ironically, the closest anyone has ever come to making a movie that actually feels like reading a classic Superman comic book. It’s filled with comic book logic and all the characters speak as though they have little dialogue bubbles beside their head! (“Well, once more we’ve survived war and found a fragile peace.”)

  15. @grimgrinningchris- Synchronicity! I must give credit, Nathan Rabin occasionally uses variations of the term and it always makes me laugh, so it has stuck with me also!

    @Bill Reed- I haven’t read that Justice League International run, but based on what I know I also thought this seemed in a similar vein. And when Gunn got to choose his own project for DC, he wanted to do a Suicide Squad inspired by the 80s Ostrander series. I realized he is basically doing an 1980s DC universe but with contemporary edge/flavor. Somewhat more grounded than Silver Age stories but still full of colorful creatures and aliens, using fictional countries to allow some more real-world parallels and ideas of how metahumans would affect the world. I think that is a big difference in how he approaches comics and these movies. Darren Aronofsky wanted to do Batman Year One, and then Chris Nolan ended up doing a variation on it. Zack Snyder adapted Watchmen, and fully admitted he just wanted to do a version of The Dark Knight Returns when he got the main DC universe. I remember reading somewhere that it took Batman: The Killing Joke to convince Tim Burton he could do a dark or “serious” version of Batman.

    Plenty of movie people don’t care about superhero comics at all, but the ones who do often seem to obsess over the most famous, “significant” works (basically meaning Moore and Miller), the gritty “grounded” versions, the deconstructions, the stuff that non-comics people might take seriously. Gunn can definitely do deconstruction or darker versions of comic or comic-inspired stories (Super is still my favorite movie of his), but he actually has an affection for and knowledge of the thing that is being deconstructed so he can also do it earnestly for real. Things can be cheesy and weird without turning into parody, things can get dramatic or serious without feeling dirge-like.

  16. Couple of things:
    -Considering this felt like the first Superman movie coming from people who had actually read the comics, as well as someone who has an appreciation of goofballs and misfits, where was Bibbo?? I remember a couple of years back Vincent D’Onofrio tweeted something about getting the Superman script, I guess he passed on it. But when he leaked that info, my first thought was BIBBO BIBBOWSKI??

    -Also, since Vern mentioned it, is Grillo really playing the same Flagg as in Creature Commandos? The guy is sixty in real life (damn he looks great) but maybe there’s a body-swap in there somehow? Isn’t he supposed to be “old” like the comics’ Nick Fury?

    Anyway, I’m glad to see this movie doing well, and I really want it to. I know superhero movies are just fascist power fantasies, but I was worried that their decline was brought on by two things: one, the rise in absolute assholes, like the ones who complained about the movie to right wing media right before it came out — they’re telling on themselves, fuck them. But also, the fact that a lot of these movies feature “heroes” that don’t even do anything heroic. Many of these movies, the heroes are bickering among each other, or quibbling about ethics, or fighting villains that they created. I was particularly pissed at “Thunderbolts” because of the group-therapy attitude — not that it didn’t work, but that it didn’t stand out significantly from the increasingly un-heroic MCU. There’s room for all sorts of approaches, but I just worried these movies in this genre were going the way of ineffectual “good buys” who don’t stand for anything except punching the villain whenever the villain shows up on his own Villian-Time accordance. More heroes, and more heroism, please.

  17. Dustin – I like what you say about it, and I do like what they did with the theme, I just personally thinks that belongs to that version of Superman. To me Danny Elfman’s BATMAN is the greatest theme of all time and I don’t want them to reuse that either (although admittedly it was fine when they used it for the intro of first seasons of the animated series).

    I’m glad you agree about the Zimmer score. Usually when I discuss it with people they can’t get past their negativity toward the movie or attachment to the Williams theme to recognize its greatness.

  18. Love the movie, great review. I think it is the tone more than anything that makes this one special. It feels nice somehow yet also has stakes and it isn’t all sweetness and light, which stops it being twee.

    Was incredible watching this and then revisiting SUPER. What an insane film. Gunn really has taken that version of himself (who would drop slurs in lieu of a joke) out behind a shed and shot him. Interesting too to see shades of what works in that film inform Gunn’s later stuff – there’s quite a lot of Peacemaker in it and Rainn’s speech at the finale is brilliantly done (and the stabbing joke cements rather than undercuts it).

    One thing I feel is going under discussed is the kissing scenes, they felt oddly intense lol. Like they really really put effort into thinking thru their physical relationship in a way I genuinely can’t ever think of seeing in a PG-13 before. I don’t even know how to articulate what I mean but something about it stands out.

  19. I thought it was kind of terrible, but I guess I am completely out of sync with what everyone else wants out of superhero movies.
    I like a lot of what it’s going for, but it stakes out an overtly complicated and, yes, overstuffed, plot for itself and then proceeds to cut it into tiny little pieces and dumb everything down. Saturday morning realpolitik.
    Maybe it’s appropriate for these times where evil is depressingly, over-the-top dumb, but… ugh. The Springfield-like mob mentality of the Metropolis residents did make me laugh, though.

    [SPOILERS] That goes double for the scene at the end where a full-on military gathers at the border against a bunch of dishevelled refugees and a few plucky kids defiantly raising a superman flag… I mean, I’m fully on board with the politics, but it’s so blatantly manipulative that it gave me a full-body cringe. And not in a good way.

    Guess I have extremely low tolerance for corn. How very GenX of me.

    I think my favourite thing was superpooch – just the fact that he’s in there heightens the movie in my estimation, and they really nail the idea of a dog that’s both loveable and kind of a pain in the ass (I’ve known a few like that.)
    But… I found his execution lacking? He always felt off – distractingly CGI – That’s understandable in the superpowered scenes, but even where it seems like they would have been possible to do with a real dog (and I’d be very surprised that Gunn, who loves practical effects, didn’t do that) it seemed oddly artificial.

  20. “One thing I feel is going under discussed is the kissing scenes, they felt oddly intense lol. Like they really really put effort into thinking thru their physical relationship in a way I genuinely can’t ever think of seeing in a PG-13 before. I don’t even know how to articulate what I mean but something about it stands out.”

    Steven E, you’re on to something there. In India and Malaysia the kissing scenes were trimmed for showing “excessive sensuality”:-)

  21. Steven, SUPER is the venn diagram overlap between Troma edgelord James Gunn, who proudly farts into the direction of good taste and would say anything to offend “the squares” for a laugh, and the thoughtful and capable popcorn filmmaker James Gunn, who shows his big heart and loves his characters, but also isn’t afraid of letting very horrible things happen to them as long as it serves the story. I loved the movie for being really funny but also depressing as fuck and was quite delighted when he managed to bring some of that over into his GOTG movies. (And also a bit confused how everybody talked about them as perfect fun for the whole family, despite their at times really PG-13 pushing violence and moments of hypersadness.)

  22. grimgrinningchris

    July 19th, 2025 at 4:18 am

    Steven and KayKay

    The only thing I’ve posted on my personal social media feed (not counting “discussions” in fan groups) is that I think their kiss after the climax may be the most chemistry fueled, romantic, passionate and EARNED in all of that… screen kiss that I’ve seen since Stranger Than Fiction (which, if you know that movie, you know the one I mean… and I hold that one in at least the top five on-screen first kisses in cinema in my lifetime).

    Having to put discussion in ” ” is a whole other thing. Those fan group debates right now are like the comments on anything political in a local news source posting… or anyone mentioning Green Day in a punk or rock group… or 00s AICN… or Thunderdome.

  23. With James Gunn and this film I feel like I’ve gone through something similar to what Vern went through with LAST JEDI and Rian Johnson. Superman isn’t as significant to me as Star Wars seems to be Vern, but Superman and Batman are definitely my Top 2 Super punchy types with no else particularly close. I guess Spider-Ham and/or Man is my third but overall I am for sure very much a DC and not a Marvel, but I would not have called myself a Gunn fan until now. While I always thought it was cool that a Troma alumni somehow ended up directing Blockbusters, I’m not really a Troma guy so I didn’t think it was *that* cool. I never saw SLITHER and I didn’t like SUPER. GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY was like my BRICK or LOOPER where I thought it was good, but was kind of sick of hearing about it by that Christmas. I could tolerate but was kind of over his schtick by GUARDIANS 2 and was fully not a Gunn fan by the time of *THE* SUICIDE SQUAD, PEACEMAKER and GUARDIANS 3, and have still not seen any of them. There is also much about his out of frame persona which doesn’t endear him to me, and no I’m not talking about anything around the scandal that got him temporarily fired by Disney. While I was objective enough to realise that an artist being put in charge of one of these shared universe was objectively A Good Thing, I wasn’t exactly excited by the prospect.

    But at some point around the time of the third(?) trailer things started to click for me, and I had to admit Gunn was saying a lot of the right stuff in his many, *many* public statements. From trailers for THE SUICIDE SQUAD I had seen that Gunn likes to embrace the more unusual and unfashionable corners of DC History, in his own R-Rated TEEN TITANS GO! kinda way, and maybe with the common sense practicality I’m sure he would have that you would have to be a bit less snarky with a Superman adaptation, I can see how this would coalesce into a take I would really like.

    And my late stage faith was rewarded, because from where I’m sitting even with the odd bum note it was a complete success. I don’t think I could have personally asked for more from a Superman film. Vern won’t like this comparison, but it sort of feels to me like a modern (and yes, better) BATMAN FOREVER; it eschews what was difficult or unpalatable to much of the public about the most recent high-profile incarnation, and hones in on what they have liked and known about the character and his world for decades, but moving ahead at a lick that doesn’t so much catch newcomers up as keep them engaged.

    This is the first time I’ve been completely satisfied with a SUPERMAN film, perhaps excluding SUPERMAN II. When Vern posted a mixed-to-negative review of the 1978 film a decade and change ago I’ll admit I was initially a little annoyed at his review, thinking he was knocking it down mostly to build MAN OF STEEL up, but when push came to shove I simply couldn’t disagree with one of the commenters who surmised it as being on the lower end of that first decade of post-JAWS blockbusters. Like seemingly somehow more than one person here, my “favo(u)rite” of the Reeves films is honestly QUEST FOR PEACE, due to a mix of its earnestly entertaining Cannon films pulp qualities and a fascination with its botched and weird production history. SUPERMAN RETURNS is an off-target homage to films I’m already a little cool on; for me based on the last time I saw it and catching the odd clip of it since I honestly think it plays a little better than it did in 2006, there are some now novel elements, but it’s hard to get enthusiastic. There was a lot I liked about the Snyder films (dare I suggest the BATMAN V SUPERMAN score is even better than the MAN OF STEEL score?), and even the faux-Snyder Joss Whedon film if that counts, but they are very uneven and their style and tone isn’t my preference.

    For me this takes the best qualities of the Reeve and Snyder films and synthesizes them into a far more entertaining whole. It marries the bright, breezy and slightly square tone of the former, with the expanded space opera/sci-fi possibilities of our megabudget CG driven age Snyder had already experimented with. If you’ll allow me to compare it to another divisive film with Batman in the title, it’s like a brighter BATMAN V SUPERMAN with a surprising amount of plot similarities (Super-backlash) and a shared attitude that it can drop you into a world and trusting you to keep up (both have Luthors that take against Superman for reasons that are only lightly touched on).

    I have no problem with the John Williams theme, and this is taking some other elements directly from that film too, as Eve Testmahcer and Otis were actually creations of (I think) Mario Puzo rather than DC (they have occasionally appeared in comics since, but not often).

    We’ll see how I feel about the DCU as it unfolds, and even this film in a few years, but right now I don’t think I could have been happier with this. I will go back to THE SUICIDE SQUAD and then maybe PEACEMAKER. Give me at least a few years on GUARDIANS 3 though please. Baby steps.

  24. Mr Pac, def check out Peacemaker (after TSS as it is a direct continuation and pays off that film’s strongest bear). It is a fantastic series, I think season 2 is shaping up to be legit very special. Cena is astonishing in it, maybe his best performance ever.

    I am gonna see Superman for a third time on Tue, taking the gf. This mf has its hooks in me, I swear.

  25. I’m sort of the opposite of Pacman. I’ve been a Gunn fan since I knew who he was. I loved TROMEO & JULIET, SLITHER, and especially SUPER. That used to be one of my come-home-drunk-and-melancholy movies. When he made it to the big leagues with GUARDIANS, I couldn’t have been happier.

    But somewhere along the way, I slowly lost interest in him. He became JUST a superhero guy. I haven’t disliked any of his comic book projects, and I possibly love THE SUICIDE SQUAD, though I’m prone to forgetting it exists. (I also watched the first season of PEACEMAKER and allegedly enjoyed it but could not tell you a single thing that happened in it. He had an eagle?) I just want more of those quirky little movies he used to make. With him being kicked upstairs to the big office, I figure that’s never gonna happen.

    I am also of the opinion that what the world needs now is another comic book universe like I need a hole in my head. So I have been pretty cold on this whole new Superman thing. Frigid, in fact. Possibly in denial. I just survived the Snyderverse. Don’t make me go through all that bullshit again, Gunn. I can’t believe you’d do this to me after all I’ve done for you. I read your novel, for Christ’s sake!

    But you guys have convinced me to get over myself and believe in my man again. I haven’t been able to see it yet because I’m staying with a friend and she don’t do cape shit, but I’m hoping to catch it next week.

  26. I’m just happy that you watched PEACEMAKER.

  27. I wouldn’t get too excited. It didn’t make much of an impression on me. I doubt I’ll go back for more.

  28. Regarding this film’s reliance on the familiar John Williams theme – I took it as an acknowledgement that the Christopher Reeve films are still the general public’s main frame of reference for Superman, and that subsequent interpretations have not been as universally accepted.

    That makes Superman different from Batman, who has been successfully reinterpreted by multiple filmmakers over the years, each with their own style and tone and sound. It might also be the case that Batman is a more flexible character – he can be everything from campy jokester to brooding antihero, whereas Superman carries a lot of weighty expectations in terms of morals, optimism, etc.

    So James Gunn’s SUPERMAN is not the slavish imitation that Bryan Singer’s SUPERMAN RETURNS was, but it’s aspiring to a similar sense of good-hearted wholesome fun, and so it’s understandable that it would borrow a lot from the Reeve movies (theme music, title font, the crystalline design of the Fortress of Solitude, the inclusion of Eve Teschmacher and Otis as sidekicks for Luthor) even as it radically changes so many of the details (the Clark/Lois relationship, the motivation of Jor-El sending him to Earth, the inclusion of super-powered sidekicks).

    Also, I watched reruns of SUPERFRIENDS religiously as a kid, so I went nuts at a certain establishing shot.

  29. Also… what do y’all think of the “I just put one foot in front of the other and do my best” monologue that Superman gives to Lex Luthor near the end?

    For me it jarred, not because I had any problem with the sentiment but because I guess I think of Superman as more of a doer than a talker, so an on-the-nose Captain Picard monologue felt out of character somehow. But that speech seems to have resonated more deeply with a lot of other people.

  30. @Curt I actually dropped in to post about that very monologue because it’s a little moment that really captures what I liked so much about this film. Seconds before he drops the speech, the destruction of the entire planet is under threat and it comes down to the wire. But even so, Superman is just so instinctively and naturally on the side of peace and de-escalation that he’s immediately able to slide back into a Clark level of intensity. He instantly doesn’t regard Luthor as any sort of threat anymore. “Dammit, Lex!” (especially contrasted with executing Zod!!) I was beaming ear to ear.

    Superman is such a nice and genuinely good guy in this one. I liked how bombastic and arch the Snyder/Caville version was, but this does feel like more what I want from the character. I really appreciated that he saved the goddam squirrel.

  31. I saw it a second time so I had to correct that the line he says to Krypto at the beginning is not just “What the hey?” but “What the hey, dude?” There are at least two parts where he calls Krypto “dude,” and I love it. Like a stepdad trying to be cool.

  32. grimgrinningchris

    July 21st, 2025 at 10:59 am

    “Some thoughts” from John Bogdanove, who drew Superman: Man Of Steel through most of the 90s (including the Death Of Superman) story. I’m pretty sure he is fully freelance these days so he’s not shilling for his bosses or anything…

    *************************************************************************************************

    Superman 2025: a few thoughts.
    This movie, and the predominantly enthusiastic reactions of most fans and critics, make me feel like the world is waking up to some things I’ve been pulling for my whole adult life.
    The second Salkynd movie—in which Christopher Reeve’s Superman bangs Lois and then mind-rapes her memory of it, and then goes out of his way to revisit a random Alaskan diner specifically to beat the crap out of some petty bully who picked on him earlier, when he didn’t have his powers—drove me up from my seat in a crowded NYC movie theatre to wail “Superman would never do that!!” I’ve been on a sacred quest ever since. Every line I’ve ever drawn about the character, every word I’ve ever said or written about Superman, in comics, in interviews, on convention panels, or in media rants has been to propagate a creator-faithful, comics-accurate understanding of the character.
    Let’s face it, ever since the Salkynd’s “Me Generation” boomer interpretation in their post-Donner sequels, Hollywood’s record on Superman adaptations has been pretty awful. Whether it was Bryan Singer’s “deadbeat dad” Superman from Superman Returns, or David Goyer and Zack Snyder’s darkly Randian Objectivist waste of Henry Cavill’s potential, there hadn’t been a major cinematic Superman that even came close to comprehending what Superman is really about. Until now.
    Judy and I just went to see James Gunn’s Superman, and I cannot recommend it highly enough. It is by far the best, most comics-accurate cinematic take on Superman since 1978—and maybe of all time.
    Whatever you think of James Gunn’s obsession with the freaky, silly trappings of Silver Age DC—and there is a lot of it in this movie—but even if you hate that goofy stuff—you will love this movie! You will love it because they have finally got Superman’s character, personality, and motivation right at last! James Gunn gets it. He understands what Superman is about, thematically, and what makes him tick, personally.
    Despite the Silver Age trappings—which BTW, IMO Gunn redeems and updates quite charmingly—Gunn seems to have based his take on Superman of our “Triangle Era”. Like our version, Gunn’s Superman is a human Earthling of alien descent, instead of an alien posing as a man.
    Gone is the godlike alien among unworthy mortals that David Goyer himself admitted to hating. Gone is the isolated Kryptonian who disguises himself as a god’s parody of us bumbling humans. Gone are the Kent parents who urge Clark to let a busload of children die and teach him that he “doesn’t owe this world a damn thing”. Gone is the grudge match in a crowded city, without a thought to the millions of lives lost in collateral damage. Gone is the bewildered Kal-El wandering to “find himself”, who must receive his mission from the ghostly projection of his dead alien bio-dad, rather than his own values and empathy.
    Gunn’s Superman chooses his own mission—which is, above all, to be a protector. This Superman’s first and ultimate concern is to protect and defend all life—from the innocent bystanders in the street, to a tiny dog in the shadow of a monster’s foot, even to the rampaging kaiju itself. This Superman is kind!
    Far from being a godlike alien masquerading as human, Gunn’s Superman (like ours) is a naturalized Earthman. He’s one of us—a regular working man who—like most folks—just wants to help his fellow Earthlings in need or in danger, and to do whatever he can to make the world a better place. He epitomizes the best of human nature and the soul of normal human goodness. In other words, just a normal, good man. He represents the best of us—only super.
    The real super-power of Gunn’s Superman—like ours in the triangle era—is his compassion. What makes him Superman—as opposed to just another superhero—is his heart. It’s the prototypical juvenile power fantasy—but fundamentally altruistic. It’s not just “What could I do if I had all those powers.” It’s “What could I do for others if I had all those powers.” Superman is a Good Guy. Perhaps THE Good Guy. He makes us want to grow up to be a good guy, too!
    As far as I’m concerned, Jim Gunn can play with all the silly Silver Age baggage he wants, as long as he stays true to that!

  33. Saw it, liked it! Great casting, great performances, fun. Final fight was a bit tedious, didn’t love the pocket world stuff, a bit overstuffed, not much chance to catch one’s breath and hang with the characters. But the cast and performances and tone carry the day. Hopeful, earnest, funny, uplifting.

  34. grimgrinningchris

    July 23rd, 2025 at 12:42 am

    I dug the final fight okay. I can see wanting more hangtime and room to breathe. It may topload that with the apartment interview, which is great, but that kinda thing may have been better spaced out more. It speaks to the only complaint I can think of now though. I wanted just a little more time with dorky public Clark. We got plenty of the real Clark with Lois and his folks. But not enough of him with people who don’t know he’s Superman.

  35. Don’t get to go to the movies much with a 18month old but we’ve organised a baby sitter to see this tomorow and I’m so excited.

  36. Inspector Hammer Boudreaux

    July 26th, 2025 at 12:26 pm

    I contest the description of Corenswet as the “sleazy” projectionist from Pearl. I don’t see him as preying on Pearl anymore than any dude who wants to get laid. Sure he fucked her and showed her porn, but Pearl should have gotten off that farm. Maxine got off the farm and became a star, that’s all Pearl ever wanted. He offered a way out in an industry that would one day become legal. And I think when Rachel Brosnahan says “You have a dog!?!” in SUPERMAN that’s a bit of a callback to when the projectionist goes to Pearl’s house and hears noise in the basement and Pearl says it’s a dog and he’s like “you said you didn’t have a dog, Pearl.”

  37. I’m usually a James Gunn fan, but I found it incredibly dull. It has a few cute ideas but for the most part I was really bored. Every character gives too much exposition to compensate for the fact that it’s technically not an origin story. Like, someone telling Lex Luthor “you’re only doing all this because you’re envious of the attention that Superman gets!”, like, yeah, thank you for spelling it out and not trusting the audience to simply gather that by themselves. Kind of like when there’s the mildly funny joke of the slow garage door… and Loïs comments on it, in case we weren’t getting the joke. And the story re-does a lot of things that have been done before, without really adding an interesting twist to anything. Pretty sure that the reveal that [SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS] Jor-El wants Superman to rule the Earth was already in SMALLVILLE (and probably a few stories in the comics). Superman also got arrested in MAN OF STEEL, I mean, do we have to get “Superman becomes an enemy of the government” every time now? Corporate superheroes are more interesting in THE BOYS. I don’t know, maybe I’m just an old grump. But I mean, when they reveal who Ultraman really is, I thought, well, surely James Gunn is going to give us a decent [SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS] Bizarro, but no, it’s just the most boring antagonist possible in the end. The highlights of the movie to me ended up being Nathan Fillion as the Green Lantern and the appearance of [SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS] Peacemaker. I don’t know, maybe if they could have trimmed it to 80mn I wouldn’t have been so negative.

  38. Spoilers for the end.

    Well, y’know, the Bizarro thing kind of bugged me. The movie goes out of its way to emphasize 1) Superman doesn’t like to kill when there are other options, and 2) He’s literally the last son of Krypton. And then he basically kills another version of himself, with no repercussions. Seemed odd. I know “clones” are a classic comic book trope, but there’s still some dramatic gravity in the idea that, once orphaned by your people, you’re now face to face with a new version of your extinct heritage. And then I guess it’s ok to chuck him into a black hole, and not fret about it later.

    If we’re being consistent, I would assume this is a tipoff that Superman’s got the bottle city of Kandor somewhere. But are we being consistent?
    To me, the coldest moment in “Man Of Steel” is when Zod is trying to terraform Earth to be Krypton, and he’s trying to reason with Kal-El and his Kryptonian legacy, and Henry Cavill barks out, “Krypton had it’s chance!” Is Warner Bros. so desperate to distance themselves from Superman Returns, where Superman is super bummed that he’s got no home left? You’d think Superman’s dilemma in the new movie would be, “How can I stop Bizarro from destroying everything and also keep him alive?” particularly considering that was the attitude he took towards Lex’s Microwave Kaiju earlier in the film.

  39. Superman inspired me to rewatch Carter. I read somewhere that Gunn is a big fan of director Jung Byung-gil and showed The Villainess to his crew on some film, GotG 3 maybe. I think you can clearly see the influence in the way Gunn films the action scenes in Superman. I’m not a big fan of the style. Doing the floaty camera with CGI characters makes it feel weightless and fake. Even if Carter looks fake because of the terrible CGI and green screen, it is still better, because it’s always real stuntmen in the center of it.

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