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Frankenstein (the 2025 Guillermo del Toro one)

I don’t say this lightly, but I think Guillermo del Toro’s FRANKENSTEIN might be up there pretty high among the top Frankensteins? Or at least it hits hard for me. It’s one of the more faithful adaptations of Mary Shelley’s 207-year-old novel Frankenstein: But If You Think About It It’s Almost Like a Modern Prometheus, but it’s reinterpreted enough to feel like pure, personal del Toro.

He uses the wraparound story of a Royal Danish Navy expedition to the North Pole that’s now stuck in the ice. The crew sees an explosion nearby and discovers injured Victor Frankenstein (Oscar Isaac, THE CARD COUNTER). Captain Anderson (Lars Mikkelsen, of the Copenhagen Mikkelsens) takes him on board to shelter him from The Creature (Jacob Elordi, THE MORTUARY COLLECTION), and this strange guest decides to be dramatic and tell his whole damn story from childhood to that very day.

I’m sorry if this sounds too unpleasant, but I see this Victor as a gothic version of our current tech bro overlords. He was born rich (a Baron, even) to a controlling, loveless old racist asshole (Charles Dance, ALIEN 3) who does kooky proto-manosphere shit like pressure his very young pregnant wife (Mia Goth, INFINITY POOL) to eat food dipped in blood because “it’s nutritious.” Victor justifiably hates that motherfucker, even resenting being given a name he sees as an ode to conquest. He’s uncomfortably close to his mother, but she dies while giving birth to a prettier younger brother named William, who his dad prefers, until Dad too dies. Victor grows up refusing to listen to anybody, wanting to be right just so his dead dad is proven wrong, getting a jolt out of “disrupting,” horrifying his professors by making them watch an electrified zombie corpse at the tribunal to expel him from college, then finding a war profiteer to fund his crazy experiments (and ultimately disappointing him), plus never ever finding anyone to love him.

And both brothers must’ve grown up with that mother fixation, since they fight over a woman played by the same actress as their mother. Of course, like all fictionalized versions of this type of dude, Victor has more talent and vision than most of the people running companies today. He invents things, and has published articles, and generally knows what he’s talking about, even if he’s an ass about it. He’s only like the real guys in that he’s an asshole with a huge ego who does dangerous, unethical things and only admits wrongdoing when he’s about to fucking croak.

He also tries hard to be cool, with fashion I interpreted as ‘60s rock star, although I really like Qban8’s comparison to Prince. Look at this! This was the most Prince-like screengrab I got but I want to note that there were doves flying behind him right before this shot.

You know what? If Prince had lived to either star in this or do a soundtrack like he did for BATMAN this would be my favorite movie of all time. I mean I like Isaac in this but I’m sure he would agree.

Victor’s wealthy benefactor is Henrich Harlander (Christoph Waltz, THE GREEN HORNET), owner of ammunition factories, who becomes interested in Victor’s research when he delivers a message from his brother William (Felix Kammerer, ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT). William is to marry Harlander’s niece Lady Elizabeth (Mia Goth, A CURE FOR WELLNESS), so the three of them get together.

When Victor meets Elizabeth he stares at her for a while before saying “Absolutely delighted.” At dinner he’s fascinated because she laughs at him and gives him an anti-war monologue as an allegory about his hubris. When she shoos him away he turns and looks at her again while leaving the room. He doesn’t know how to handle somebody like her. That’s even before he sees that she’s not afraid of dissection, and that she’s into studying insects, both in books and in person. His best bonding experience with her is after he attempts the heinous act of slipping into a confession booth to hear her secrets – the gothic romance version of some ‘80s frat comedy sex crime. She’s not stupid though so she knows it’s him and just talks shit about him as her confession.

Or maybe she is stupid because she’s forgiving enough to then have dinner and dance with him. There’s an old fashioned restrained romantic tension here with Victor clearly trying to steal his brother’s woman and Elizabeth seeming initially intrigued or flattered before repeatedly rejecting him, but the most overt sex act is him running a finger along her bare shoulder once. Nobody ever directly discusses their desires directly, but her uncle notices what’s up and puts his foot down through the medium of pissing (hands-free!) in front of Victor, then telling him to flush it for him as he leaves.

This Victor is a little more dashing and sane-passing than the familiar mad scientist depictions of Dr. Frankenstein, but keeps his shirt on more than the Kenneth Branagh version. (He does have a bath tub scene.) Still, it’s not too hard to tell he’s trouble. When Harlander first visits him he has to jauntily skip over a blood puddle to get in the front door. I like the scene where Victor callously examines convicts lined up at the gallows, checking their teeth, sizing up their potential as parts. “That’s a strong back. This one will do,” he says. Later, when Harlander has advanced notice of a battle that can provide them more corpses, Victor’s only hesitation is about their condition.

Harlander is an interesting character – he’s not only a funder, he provides an important idea for the project, and hires a pretty normal, competent person (William) to do the necessary work setting things up. He’s not uncultured, has some interest in the arts, including his own photography. But he has his own ulterior motives (his Harlander Endgame) that he only reveals just as the storm is coming and Victor is about to give the thing life. Frankenstein has the common sense to say no but also the lack of decency to, when Harlander is accidentally killed in a struggle, put the body on ice and tell everybody he went on a trip.

The electric birth of the monster in James Whale’s FRANKENSTEIN is one of the most famous scenes in cinema history, so it’s pretty hard to compete with. Del Toro does finds ways to put his own spin on the imagery. I love how this looks here:


And I like that when it happens the camera zips through The Creature’s organs like those shots of the engines in THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS.

It’s impressive that Victor creates life, and inevitable that he hadn’t really considered what to do with it. He decides to chain The Creature in the lower level of his tower lab, briefly trying to teach him things, then getting frustrated and giving up. He quickly becomes a whiny, condescending, terrible parent, angry that his creation has trouble learning any words beyond “Victor.” That name his dad gave him.

While deep in his new life style as a deadbeat monster parent, Victor is blindsided by a visit by William and Elizabeth, checking up on their missing uncle. Victor kinda acts like somebody trying to play it cool when his parole officer shows up, interrupting a bender. The inside of the place is all grown over with plants like it’s GREY GARDENS, so Elizabeth has a “what the fuck have I walked into?” look on her face.

When she finds The Creature she’s immediately kind and gentle with him, never scared, only calm, except when asking “Who hurt you?” Victor shows that he created him, that the wounds are healing, shows him off like a product, calling him “it.” I like when he complains that The Creature doesn’t have “the spark of intelligence” and Elizabeth says, “Perhaps not as you understand it.” She continues treating him like a person, so the second word he learns is her name.

Like a real piece of shit Victor is embarrassed by Elizabeth criticizing him, flies into a fury about it, takes it out on The Creature, deriding him for being made of criminals (as if he can’t rise above his origins), and decides to burn the place down with The Creature inside. Only when he hears his name screamed does he feel remorse, try to run back in, and get blown up. Momentarily gaining a conscience causes him to lose a leg. It’s a real mean world we got here, is one of the points being made.


The thing I love most about this movie is its interpretation of The Creature. Inspired primarily by the famous Frankenstein illustrations of comics legend Bernie Wrightson (except with a nose), we first spy him as a silhouette in the snowy “Farthermost North,” face hidden in the shadows of a massive hood, eyes occasionally catching the light, hands sometimes emerging from a tattered coat to make very dramatic gestures as he hunts down Frankenstein. Really he’s a relative of BLADE II’s Nomak, HELLBOY II’s Nuada, maybe even MIMIC’s bug man. He has the roar of a beast, the ability to survive bullet wounds, and the strength to effortlessly lift and slam or toss people (and later wolves) into fires, through wooden structures, into each other. I mean this as a compliment: it’s a little taste of that Dark Universe we were robbed of.

Then of course we jump back to his creation many years earlier, Victor assembling muscle tissue like he’s lovingly putting together a model kit. The Creature is born bald and lanky, lumbering nearly naked, his varied pieces more of a beautiful patchwork than the usual stitched-together mess.

I’ve noticed Elordi twice before in roles that really impressed me. First was as Elvis Presley in PRISCILLA, and I couldn’t believe someone was so good with a different take on The King right after Austin Butler in ELVIS. Then it was in SALTBURN, a movie I know some people really hate for whatever reason, but I feel like his magnetism in it is undeniable. Now here’s an entirely different and much more challenging role, one that’s mostly physical for a while, with the type of attention to strange movement and posture you’d expect from a dancer or mime. In fact, when del Toro was first developing this in 2009 he’d given the role to Doug Jones. Obviously he would’ve known how to do this stuff, but I think it gains an interesting dimension by having a dreamy young guy under the makeup, evolving from confused child to a Creature of some gravity. And, importantly, I just think he looks cool – especially when he’s at his most colorful, in his jigsaw puzzle phase…


… but I was fascinated by his look shifting from dumb guy eyes to jagged, chiseled areas of shadow, to eventually deciding you know what, I bet I could pull off long hair (and he does win that bet).

Without a doubt my favorite section of the movie is when The Creature catches up with his creator in the cabin of the frozen ship, realizes Frankenstein has just told the captain his story, and wants to tell his version. Suddenly The Creature is a more eloquent man the doctor never knew, he’s even narrating, and the feel of the movie changes to a bit of a BAMBI or SNOW WHITE fairy tale feel as he stumbles from the burnt tower into the forest and shares berries with a deer. This is the bit where he secretly helps a blind man (David Bradley, EXORCIST: THE BEGINNING) and little girl (Sofia Galasso), hiding from sight but providing and building for them. He even constructs a heavy duty sheep pen pounding posts into the ground with his bare hands! They attribute his deeds to “The Spirit of the Forest” and leave him offerings of clothes and bread and things. If 2025 has any cinematic images sweeter than The Creature perched on the roof of the cabin, admiring such a gift with a little mouse friend sitting on his shoulder, I can’t think of what they are.


When he finally reveals himself to the blind man it’s a brave coming out, and a rewarding one, because then he learns how to read. It’s a movie that believes profoundly in the power of art to expand consciousness through the sharing of emotions, ideas and expressions of beauty. But this portion also includes the dark side of the fairy tales, including vicious packs of wolves. (The animated animals are much less believable than the rest of the digital effects, but I kinda like their stop-motiony jankiness.)

Obviously The Creature’s happy new life doesn’t last, but his literacy leads to understanding his creation and finding Victor’s address on an envelope. Whoops. The trademark del Toro touches include a reoccurring nightmare about a “dark angel” and a horniness for the monster. I had a bit of trouble with the love story in THE SHAPE OF WATER, but maybe I’m just a prude about monster fucking, because the more chaste and less explained love triangle here did work for me. Elizabeth relates to the butterfly she cages, seems to feel she doesn’t have a choice in marrying William, does choose to reject Victor (okay, that part would be hard to buy if Prince was in the role), but seems happiest in the totally innocent company of The Creature, who she hasn’t really seen at his scariest and still believes is “pure.” When Victor visits her on her wedding day she tells him to get the fuck out; when The Creature does the same she says “It’s you!” and caresses his face. Sorry, Doc, you’ve been replaced again. Deservingly this time.

As always, Goth is incredible in the role, bringing just the right amount of her trademark weirdo energy needed to spice up a beautiful-woman-but-also-she’s-so-much-smarter-than-the-men period piece heroine. Other actresses could’ve matched her being glamorous and proper and wearing amazing dresses but none of them could’ve added as much with their facial expressions. Yes, I believe those are the eyeballs of the woman who could love The Creature.

Ultimately it’s Victor and The Creature’s relationship that has to come to some sort of a conclusion, so there’s a parent-creature conference. On first viewing I wasn’t sure how much I bought Victor apologizing or The Creature forgiving. On second viewing I appreciate that Victor got to give his “son” the closure that he never got with his own shitty father. Maybe a too-little-too-late apology is actually more than we can expect these days. I like the changed ending, still leaving The Creature alive but now a little more open to appreciating life, despite all its shittiness, and giving little suggestion about what the fuck he’ll do now. Personally I assume he’s still out there in the snow, and probly very good at snowboarding, but it’s up to each of us to imagine.

I don’t know if there could be some sort of self-critical angle to this story. Obviously del Toro relates to the monster, but maybe there’s some similarity between a mad scientist’s obsessions and a filmmaker’s, in terms of their effect on the other parts of their lives. In the case of finally making his FRANKENSTEIN, the stubborn obsession paid off. I’m glad Victor didn’t tell him “You have my madness” and convince him to turn the ship around. This is a good one.

 

P.S. I don’t care where we go, I don’t care what we do. I don’t care pretty baby, just

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21 Responses to “Frankenstein (the 2025 Guillermo del Toro one)”

  1. Nice review. I loved this film. Glad I wasn’t the only one thinking about the Luke Goss parts for Del Toro being early versions of The Monster. I was glad Isaac embraced the unlovable aspect of his character and never tried for sympathy. He gets it for being so blind to himself that its a tragedy that such potential is wasted on a man who cannot get beyond his perceptions of the past. AS he told the story, who knows if the interaction with his father was more complicated than he’ll admit.

    Elordi was very good as the monster. I hadn’t seen him before then saw this and Oh Canada from Paul Schrader within a week of each other and he’s great in both, especially in that film he’s more of a Victor Frankenstein.

  2. This and Nightmare Alley are doing a decent job of getting me back on the GDT train. I loved neigher but enjoyed them and had that old spark that made me love him intially.

    Kinda a bummer I didn’t love his adapataion of one of my favorite books but oh well. I wathed it as the B-picture of a double feature of it and the Kenneth Braughna one. I used to defend that one but this go around I’m finally on the same page as everyone, it’s a goofy movie and frusterating because you can tell it could have have been a GREAT movie but Braughnah made… ‘decisions’…

    Compared to that, this is clearly the superior take on the book and sells the drama and relationship between father and son way better. Can still nitpikc some decisions made to made, but eh thats probably nerdom for the book talking more so than anything.

    And unlike Nightmare Alley, he didn’t drop the ball in litterally the last 10 seconds. So you did good Mr. GDT. It’s no Blade II but it’d be silly to think you’re ever going to top that one.

  3. I cheered out loud when I realized [SPOILER] the movie was leaning way into one of the goofiest aspects of the at times very goofy source material: the creature learns to speak and read through spying on the folks in the cabin teaching their child, and then becomes a thoughtful natural philosopher through reading some books (though not going so far as to have the creature randomly find the books in a backpack someone lost in the woods).

    I liked Elordi’s sweetness and Isaac’s bare-chested mega-acting arrogance, and the overall gnarliness of Frankenstein’s abattoir-lab… really fun to read an interview with Isaac talking about how much fun this was to make, including GDT directing him through them sharing macabre jokes in Spanish… [ALSO SPOILER] I couldn’t quite go along with the ending – pretty hard to picture those sailors just letting the creature wander off after it had just killed 6 of the crew. And then it becomes a superhero and everyone cheers when it frees the ship from the ice by giving it a push into the open water – that was apparently right behind them the whole time they were stuck?? Didn’t squash the movie for me as a whole though.

  4. Faithful my ass.
    It’s a strong reinterpretation and (not “but”, “and”) it really changes some dynamics to make the viewer root more and more for the Creature.
    The whole Elizabeth character and her arc are a complete departure from the novel.
    There, she was a really passive character and I am glad that this have been updated, at the same time I

  5. am tired of reading around that this movie is one of the more faithful renditions of Shelley’s work.
    This is Del Toro’s Frankenstein thru and thru: the real monsters are “normal” people and all that jazz, he basically became Tim Burton 2.0. Not a totally bad thing on my book.

    [my apologies for the split message]

  6. Liked, not loved it. I’m not sure what happened to Del Toro after PAN’S LABYRINTH – I’ve liked I think all of his movies since, but his scripts particularly have never been anywhere as good after that.

    This one had a few too many missteps that made me groan and/or laugh. Everyone’s harping on about the “no, Victor, YOU’RE THE MONSTER!” bit, but I really resent Elizabeth falling madly in love with the creature; It’s not enough for her to have basic empathy towards it and show her kindness, she has to want to fuck him, too after knowing him for… what, the equivalent of a couple dates? That maybe could work, but we’d have to have way more time with her character for it to feel earned. Not to mention the monster was basically a child for most of their time together. Harlander’s character was also excellent, but his arc was abruptly dealt with and didn’t really feel necessary at all to the movie. There’s a few things that feel a little shoehorned like that.
    Plus… I get that Netflix doesn’t have infinite pockets, but some fire effects and the wolves made me laugh too. Same with the image of the creature pushing a whole ship through the ice.. to an open sea that was not fifty meters away, as Ben C. observed above.
    The creature is also way too pure, which makes the whole story feel a bit more basic than it should be. Beyond that I’m OK with it, since that’s obviously Del Toro’s intent, but it does take away from claims about the movie’s faithfulness to the source material.

    It’s still a very enjoyable movie, and I loved the bit where the creature takes over the narration; the whole interlude at the shack is lovely. It’s just that the whole movie felt to me like a little less than the sum of its parts.
    Of GdT’s more populist, post-LABYRINTH output… I still prefer CRIMSON PEAK, which I think just hangs together better, but this was still a good time, and aesthetically it’s absolutely gorgeous. Lots of love for the costume and production design (those caskets!)

    Vern, if you get the chance and you haven’t seen it already, I’d highly recommend the movie YOU WON’T BE ALONE – it’s a weird, beautiful Macedonian folk horror/drama that shares a few themes with FRANKENSTEIN, especially his time as a helpful nature spirit. I think you’d really enjoy it.

  7. “The electric birth of the monster in James Whale’s FRANKENSTEIN is one of the most famous scenes in cinema history, so it’s pretty hard to compete with. Del Toro does finds ways to put his own spin on the imagery.” — Yes, like the lightning-catching apparatus that expands and thrusts down a shaft in the tower, shooting the electric charge out its tip at the Creature. Guillermo bb, I love u, but subtlety is just not your thing, huh?

    Like Colin, I’m also a little baffled at how many people are describing this as being really faithful to the book. Faithful to the spirit…maybe? Among a lot of other changes, GdT leaves out the parts where the Creature, on three separate occasions, murders the only three people Victor loves.

    I think the thing about the ship at the end is that the Captain has been stubbornly insisting they continue to push forward with their mission, even though the ice is keeping them from going farther. His men just want to turn back. One of them might even say something about how easily they could turn around? I forget now. At any rate, I don’t think it’s a silly mistake that there’s open water pretty close behind them.

  8. I thought it was safe to say “one of the more faithful adaptations” because there are tons of Frankenstein movies and like 90% of them are not at all in the shape of the book. But yes, true, if you want a direct translation this is still not it.

  9. Thank you Vern.
    The one with De Niro (Branahag’s one?) took some liberties, but if you take out the “Elizabride” sequence (still an homage to the later sequels of the original one) it’s still the most balanced between faithfulness and originality (the movie issues are to be found in other aspects imho)

  10. Interestingly enough, my first thought regarding Isaac’s wardrobe was not Prince, but Michael in terms of Victor’s wardrobe. When Victor was was walking through the village right before meeting Waltz, he was doing some serious Smooth Criminal strutting and his pinstriped suit was verbatim an outfit Michael actually wore in promos for Moonwalker.

    Similarly, as he was prepping for the wedding, his outfit was almost identical to Michael’s in the “Ghosts” video, complete with black pants and weird, flowy white shirt. Throw in the Jheri curl and all the “Wacko Jacko” commentary about Michael’s personal life and his virtual castle at Neverland etc and it really felt like that was the influence.

  11. Sorry, Vern, I should have clarified I was talking about other folks who have said it in a much more “this is really close to the book” way. Having reread it pretty recently, maybe I’m just hyperaware of how different it is. The way you’ve said it is entirely fair.

  12. My favorite change/update was the additional contemporary ideas and science GdT included in Victor’s understanding of how to create his My Buddy. The chi energy, the Evelyn Panels,
    probably more I’m forgetting. That shit was awesome. Shelley stuck with galvanism and the already very outdated alchemy. I think she would’ve dug including more up-to-date examples of the different stuff Victor had been studying.

  13. Just want to put on the record that I really like this despite some obvious blunders (most damagingly, the movie’s soft-pedaling of The Creature, which, like, of course del Toro loves the monster* and also thinks women just instinctively want to fuck it, but it kinda robs the latter half of its battle-of-wills horror, and replaces it with…. nothing? The movie pretty much ends immediately after the Creature finishes his story?).

    In particular, and I think I may be alone in this — I think Isaac is fantastic; yeah, he goes pretty big, but, like, he’s playing Victor Fucking Frankenstein in a florid fractured fairy tale version where they literally say out loud, twice, that actually, if you really think about it, isn’t VICTOR kinda the monster? at which point, subtlety is more or less entirely off the table. But ah! Despite going the big theaterical mega approach, I actually think he manages to pack a lot of nuance in there anyway — I dare say his portrayal may be the most thoroughly worked-out version of this oft-portrayed character I’ve ever seen. For all the strutting and shouting and sweating, for all that del Toro kinda diminishes him by making his psychology so obvious and pat (“he had a bad relationship with his dad and wanted to fuck his mom, therefore had no choice but to make a Monster”), I actually think Isaac finds a lot of recognizable, messy humanity in him. He’s an asshole, yes, but he’s also lively, complex, sometimes surprising. When he apologizes to Elizabeth near the end, she doesn’t believe him, but I do — or at least, I believe he’s genuinely trying to do the right thing, to be a good guy, even as he knows that doesn’t come easily to him. When he’s deciding to burn down his tower with the creature inside it, you can see him struggling to rationalize to himself why he’s doing it, telling himself he’s just being logical and reasonable even while a part of himself knows that’s a total lie, and then, when he makes a deal that he’ll call it off if the monster can say another word –only to do it anyway– you can see the utter panic as he can’t lie to himself that he’s being reasonable anymore, and just has to flee rather than face his feelings. And yet, he tries to come back! There’s some interesting plotting there, but what really makes this waffling read as comprehensible and human is Isaac’s amazing ability to let you see all the various contradictory parts of Victor boiling inside him at once.

    All his terrible decisions seem to come from a completely understandable, if not admirable, place, and that’s actually really fucking rare; Victor Frankenstein is a part which is almost beyond iconic; it’s mythic, it’s baked into the very fabric of our most foundational modern fictional archetypes, and as such in many adaptations it feels like there’s a certain inevitability to his actions. He does what he does because That’s How The Story Goes, and asking why he makes these choices is meaningless and absurd, like asking why Zeus is so horny or why John Henry worked for the railroad. But not so here — Isaac (it’s in the performance much more than the script) manages to articulate a distinct and identifiable personality from which all the standard Frankenstein story beats naturally and instinctively flow. He’s not just a stand-in for monomaniacal scientific zeal; we can understand just watching his face that he’s thinking and feeling and making motivated choices, can understand why this specific difficult, arrogant, insecure, brilliant, erratic, deluded, wounded guy would do what he does.

    Anyway, the guy is probably the best actor of his generation and has barely had a role that wasn’t a total snooze since he first met J. J. Abrams, so maybe I’m just overjoyed to have him back. But frankly I find it immeasurably depressed to see a legit GOAT absolutely go to town on a big meaty theatrical mega-acting character in an adaptation of one of the most iconic stories of all time, and watch pretty much every major critic just sneer that he’s overacting and it’s embarrassing. The movie has its problems but if you thought *that* was one of them, I don’t know what to tell you, you’re just wrong, this fucker rules.

    * Who technically kills way more people than in Shelley’s book but they’re all unnamed extras and the movie doesn’t seem to notice or wonder if this somehow complicates its vision of him as a perfectly pure soul

  14. My two cents—thoroughly hated it. I have always disliked the flashback structure (which in fairness, comes from the novel) but this was especially bad way to do it. When the Creature bursts in and demands to tell his tale, I burst into laughter. Giving him Wolverine healing powers is beyond dumb. All of del Toro’s movies are too clean and pretty to me. I thought Oscar Isaac’s British accent was kind of hilarious. Mia Goth is wasted. I do not get any love for this movie but I’m not mad, god bless.

  15. Mr. S, I took the Creature’s boat rampage as fine by that point in his unfortunate journey. When he first exits the tower via its (again, so, so subtle) birth canal, none of the animals in the forest are afraid of him. But by the end of his Happy Forest Spirit Time with the family, the wolves are happy to attack him and he’s happy to really, really overdo it when killing them. And then after the family respond by killing him for three days (whoaaaaaaa), his narration is something along the lines of “that’s when I realized life is nothing but violence and bullshit.” The world has corrupted him. So by the time he finds Victor, and GdT reduces the entire “the Creature demands a companion” plotline to him saying “please” and Victor saying “nah,” it’s fine to me that he starts throwing people around and shit. Now he’s just one of us, just a stranger on the bus, etc.

  16. For the most part, I really liked this. It certainly had its issues, but, for me at least, the good outweighed the bad.

    I was fortunate to be able to see this on a big screen at an actual theater. I think that really helped me enjoy the movie. The sets and costumes are just so detailed and well done and I suspect most of that would have just sort of passed me by on a tv screen. It’s really sort of a monkey’s paw situation that GdT finally got to make one of his two lifelong dream projects (the other being that Mountains of Madness adaptation he never got off the ground), but then 99% of the audience won’t even have a chance to see it because it was produced by fucking Netflix.

  17. For the most part, I really liked this. It certainly had its issues, but, for me at least, the good outweighed the bad.

    I was fortunate to be able to see this on a big screen at an actual theater. I think that really helped me enjoy the movie. The sets and costumes are just so detailed and well done and I suspect most of that would have just sort of passed me by on a tv screen. It’s really sort of a monkey’s paw situation that GdT finally got to make one of his two lifelong dream projects (the other being that Mountains of Madness adaptation he never got off the ground), but then 99% of the audience won’t even have a chance to see it because it was produced by fucking Netflix.

  18. I meant to say that most people won’t be able to see it in a theater, not that most people won’t be able to see it at all.

  19. Acid Burns — I watched it again (this time on the small screen — so glad I was able to wrangle a theatrical viewing first!) and I think I can see it your way, but although that’s kinda present in the text, I just feel like del Toro can’t quite bring himself to believe his beloved Creature has sunk to our level — he doesn’t even have him kill Elizabeth, for heaven’s sake. Feels like he’s trying to have his cake and eat it too, but wants to eat the cake a lot more than he wants to have it.

  20. A bit of early Christmas news: apparently GTD has confirmed on Twitter (a strict no go zone for me) that there will be a physical media release of FRANKENSTEIN. No word on who will be releasing it, but hopefully Criterion.

  21. I can’t imagine it would be anyone other than Criterion, who have released most of his movies including his Netflix productions. I’m sure it will be a beautiful package, too. Now if only we could get them the rights to BLADE II, just to get celebrities talking about it in the Criterion Closet.

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