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Off Limits

OFF LIMITS is a couple different genres – serial killer thriller, buddy-cop action, Vietnam War movie. It centers on two military police detectives, Sergeants First Class Buck McGriff (Willem Dafoe between PLATOON and THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST) and Albaby Perkins (Gregory Hines between RUNNING SCARED and TAP).

It’s directed by Christopher Crowe, who was the writer of NIGHTMARES, THE LAST OF THE MOHICANS and FEAR, but his only other theatrical directing gig was WHISPERS IN THE DARK. He also created a bunch of TV shows (including B.L. Stryker, B.J. and the Bear and The Watcher hosted by Sir Mix-a-Lot) and (no shit) designed the logo for Cheap Trick. I would’ve guessed it was made by more of a cinema veteran because, though I only think it’s pretty good, it has the muscular cinematistic confidence and atmosphere of A Real Fucking Movie. I mean, let me give you a few screengrabs I made to give you an idea of the fuckin vibes (TFV) in this thing:


Maybe Crowe got lucky, maybe he just had this one in him, maybe it’s just the resources you have when making an action-adjacent studio movie in the year of our lord 1988 that make it look like this. Production designer J. Dennis Washington had already done VICTORY and STAND BY ME, and would later do THE FUGITIVE. I was expecting the cinematographer to be really accomplished too, but David Gribble hadn’t done much I’ve heard of. No offense Mr. Gribble – this is definitely an accomplishment. He later had a JCVD run (NOWHERE TO RUN, THE QUEST) and did the Jesse Stone movies. Obviously I respect that.

There are really good locations like strip clubs and cramped apartments, a foot chase through crowded streets, music sounding like an early Seagal movie (because in fact it’s by James Newton Howard, who did MARKED FOR DEATH), and you get to see Dafoe hauling ass like a real action star.

Yeah, it’s set in Vietnam during the war, and like the Americans of so many movies about that they’re living on some sort of danger high, getting a desensitization and macabre sense of humor about the horrible shit going on around them, and slowly being driven to the brink. But working for the Criminal Investigation Division means they’re not in the jungle dodging landmines and guerrilla attacks, they’re in Saigon dealing with sleazy dudes in discos and dark alleys. The night life is bustling, it always seems hot, they’re constantly sweaty. Perkins chews gum loudly, and in more than one scene talks about wanting to tear a guy’s dick off. Fortunately for ethics, unfortunately for cinema, he does not ever do it. Saving that for part 2.

The case that comes to them from Master Sergeant Benjamin Dix (Fred Ward, UNCOMMON VALOR) is a nasty one: somebody’s killing prostitutes, and evidence points to a G.I. So they’re sort of investigating their own, including Specialist Five Maurice (Keith David in the same year as THEY LIVE) and Colonel Dexter Armstrong (Scott Glenn, MAN ON FIRE). David Alan Grier has a serious role as a translator, probly because he was in A SOLDIER’S STORY, but he was also in I’M GONNA GIT YOU SUCKA this same year. It’s weird because he goes whole hog into the Vietnamese and we’re so used to him being on all the time that it seems like he’s doing a bit. Man, I hope those are real words he’s saying otherwise we got a problem here.

At a crime scene McGriff accidentally gets stuck holding a murder victim’s baby, and doesn’t know what the fuck to do. He brings her to the orphanage and meets Sister Nicole (Amanda Pays, one of my childhood crushes thanks to Max Headroom), a nun who helps the local sex workers so she’s aware of and comfortable talking about things these guys don’t expect from a nun.

It’s a sleazy business – they start by interviewing every soldier known to have been treated for the same v.d. that a prostitute said the suspect suffered from. It’s not a strong story, just a zig-zagging investigation meandering through different theories and suspects, feverish encounters and tense stand offs. There’s a pretty shocking twist where (SPOILER) the guy who seems most like he did it suddenly commits suicide by jumping off a helicopter. But he didn’t do it. Very weird.

Yes, this is a Vietnam War movie but they’re out of their element when they have to go into an actual war zone and crawl through a trench to talk to a weirdo soldier named Elgin Flowers (Raymond O’Connor, DR. ALIEN), who’s out here risking his life to get away from the threat of knowing too much about the murders. Also of course there’s some kind of weird irony to everyone understanding how evil it is for this American soldier to be murdering women, while they’re all there in support of a war that’s killing all kinds of women and children and everybody else.

And actually there are times when the city becomes a war zone, for example in a tense scene where a mob of locals attack their car. They’re going to be arrested by a soldier they call Lime Green (Lim Kay Tong, DRAGON: THE BRUCE LEE STORY) because of the color of his ascot, they refuse to go and are rescued by an American helicopter flying over. Doesn’t make them the good guys.

The coolest and most memorable part is when they’re in their car and a dude rides by on a Vespa and tosses a grenade under them. McGriff sees it happening in the side mirror but there’s no time to react. It bucks the car in the air and they come out of the smoke covered in blood, but alive.

The screenplay is credited to director Crowe and Jack Thibeau, who wrote some episodes of Miami Vice but was better known as an actor, and this kind of borrows ingredients from some of the movies he was in: APOCALYPSE NOW, 48 HRS., SUDDEN IMPACT, CITY HEAT, LETHAL WEAPON. He was also in a vigilante-vs.-bikers TV movie Crowe wrote and directed called STREETS OF JUSTICE. I’d watch that.

OFF LIMITS (a.k.a. SAIGON according to this way better poster art) didn’t completely come together for me, but I enjoyed being introduced to an edgy ‘80s buddy movie I was completely unaware of. According to Wikipedia, “The movie was not successful at the box office, grossing only $7.2 million. However, it later found its audience on home video and on cable TV, primarily HBO and Showtime.” And there are enough potent ingredients in it (Dafoe, Ward, the whole crazy nightmare feel of the thing) that I gotta make sure other people who grew up without HBO or Showtime know it’s out there. Thanks to my friend Jensen for the recommendation.

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21 Responses to “Off Limits”

  1. Holy shit, I need to watch this immediately. Unfortunately, it seems to be totally unavailable. Seems like the kind of thing Kino Lorber should pick up for blu-ray.

  2. I have the old Anchor Bay DVD, which is so out-of-print that it’s going for $80 on Amazon. Better hold onto that one.

  3. Never heard of it, probably because we got the SAIGON title here and this is an awfully generic name, but to my own surprise it’s available to rent here.

  4. I don’t love this one but enjoyed it in the theater and again at home. I always grouped it in with TO LIVE AND DIE IN L.A. and other down-and-dirty thrillers rather than buddy cop flicks. It is nasty before SEVEN redefined nasty so I give it props for that. Great cast and Vern really dives into the look which I guess I didn’t really analyze just enjoyed the night photography and easy-to-follow camerawork.

    I always assumed Vern just never plucked this one from his massive backlog not that he’d never seen it much less the Verneratti being unfamiliar. Hines had a great run with dirty cop-adjacent films including RUNNING SCARED and the ridiculous EVE. Always appreciate his intensity and humor.

  5. Yeah, I saw this on video when I was 12. It was Saigon in the UK, as per the cooler quad poster you highlight, and the VHS I borrowed from a friend of my grandads – I actually used him as my own free rental library, I used to go over the road and borrow different videos every week – he was a widower and used to order frequently from all the catalogues. He liked action so I saw a TON of films that way on tape.

    I remember really quite liking the atmosphere of it all – and I think I’d already borrowed To Live and Die in L.A. before this so knew Dafoe by then – but I don’t think it ever made the leap to DVD in the UK, or if it did it was a very short run, so I’ve never seen it again. The only thing I clearly recalled in the years since was it having Stand by Sly and the Family Stone on the end titles, which I loved. But I was always reminded of it as it featured in this superb CBS/Fox VHS promo that was on a lot of tapes I owned https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OQZ0pll7Mo

  6. My brother and I had been on a Willem Dafoe Vietnam war flick kick and we’re stymied – we had seen PLATOON (of course), BORN ON THE FOURTH OF JULY (of course) and FLIGHT OF THE INTRUDER (we enjoyed the bullshit serious tone of it, and it turns out it’s actually a pretty realistic representation of plane combat and Dafoe gives a particularly bizarre, charismatic and fairly unhinged performance in it, as a good guy!) but had been stymied in our pursuit of OFF LIMITS. And low and behold I stumbled across a guy in Toronto at a weekly Sunday flea market who specialized in bootleg VHS tapes (this was nearly 30 years ago,) and what did he have but a copy of this flick. Mission accomplished. It’s been so long that I tracked down a few clips to refresh my memory. The helicopter scene is what sticks most in the mind, but I was surprised at the moody look of some of the scenes, definitely a little bit of filmatism going on. And wow, Amanda Pays, I was (and still am) a huge Max Headroom fan, and also crushed on her pretty seriously.

    And I’d really be curious to know what part of Christopher Crowe’s work on THE LAST OF THE MOHICANS survived to make the finished film.

  7. This is great, thank you for writing this up. In my version of heaven there are still diamonds to be found in the rough. While this may not be a diamond, it blows my mind that there was an 80s action movie full of ringers that I’d never heard of. Even if it is so-so, I’m in!

  8. I’ve been a fan of this after seeing it in the cinemas in ’88. Loved the mashing of genres. Not easy to get a hold on these days, but once in a while there’s a decent version on Youtube. Like now.

  9. So I guess after the enormous success of Platoon, Hollywood figured that Dafoe was gonna be a conventional leading man and kept shoehorning him into square pegs until cooler heads prevailed and we got the wickedly awesome and strange career from him that we still enjoy the fruits of presently.

    But looking back stuff like White Sands, Body of Evidence, this film, and even Mississippi Burning (solid film to be sure, but quite conventional) look like the outliers in his resume. Parts that might have gone to any square jawed stand-in flavor of the month rather then one of cinema’s all time great weirdos. Dafoe can’t help but be interesting on screen, and I’m delighted to hear that one of his ‘vehicles’ from that period where people still hadn’t discovered he’s not Kevin Costner actually meets him halfway.

  10. Saw this as SAIGON in the cinema in 1988 and haven’t really thought about it since, although I agree with the general points being made here – Dafoe and Hines are good, as are the rest of the cast, and it looks nicely cinematic. But what I really remember, and what I think stops it getting over the line into greatness, is the obvious and annoying twist reveal of the murderer.

    Very happy to boost Chris’s praise for Gregory Hines. RUNNING SCARED is a fine proto-LETHAL WEAPON that benefits from having Peter Hyams direct, and EVE OF DESTRUCTION is gloriously ridiculous and a VHS favourite. I seem to remember the in store display for EVE being a miniskirt-clad Renée Soutendijk wielding a machine gun. Quality! I could also mention WOLFEN which has Hines in a supporting part, but also manages a nice genre mash up of horror and detective movie.

  11. I like the second poster, where it looks like they’re investigating the murder of a Toon in Tronworld.

  12. It’s called The Grid.

    I know this because I’m a nerd who already bought his tickets for part 3 next month.

  13. Okay, the only potential RSS Buster I can see is the curly quotes around

    The movie was not successful at the box office, grossing only $7.2 million. However, it later found its audience on home video and on cable TV, primarily HBO and Showtime

  14. Or the dollar sign within the quote
    (it wasn’t until I copy/pasted did I notice it was a special character, and not a good ‘ol fashioned “$”. Meaning by putting another on the page, I may have just double-busted the RSS)

  15. I can see everything just fine. Maybe the problem is on your end?

  16. I can see everything just fine. Maybe the problem is on your end?

    You’re getting new articles on the RSS feed? The last one I got was Drop. And now I’m getting a “not a valid feed” message
    The last time this happened, it was due to a special character being in an article. But maybe in this case there is something wrong on my end (although like 20 other feeds seem to be okay)

  17. Yeah, everything is working just the way it’s supposed to.

  18. I think I found it. Thanks for letting me know, jojo.

  19. Oh, then I read more comments and see that you found it too. There was an odd character in front of the dollar sign, hopefully that fixes it.

  20. All good! Thank you!

  21. Off Limits is on youtiube, for anyone wanting to see it. Even though I liked the late Gregory Hines back in the day, I’ve never heard of this, and I’ll watch anything with Dafoe, who’s a great actor. So the fact that this has both of them teamed alone makes me want to see it.

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