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Predator

PREDATOR starts out with a shot of an alien spacecraft jettisoning a shuttle towards earth. We just see it from the distance, there’s not alot of detail visible, but we don’t live under a rock, so we know what’s going on here. The extra-terrestrial hunting enthusiast known only as “Predator” is arriving on Earth. The human characters in the movie get all the screen time, but Predator gets the first shot, so we know this is really his story.

Like E.T. THE EXTRA-TERRESTRIAL, PREDATOR doesn’t give us any backstory on the alien star. All we know is the guy is no botanist. Maybe an exotic meat salesman. It almost seems like an alien remake of FIRST BLOOD because you got this one crazy alien maniac out in the jungle by himself, taking on a couple platoons worth of elite soldiers and doing a pretty good job of it. John Rambo did some sick shit but he didn’t skin a bunch of guys and hang them upside down from the trees. He didn’t pull out people’s spines. So Predator’s got one on John. You even get the scene where Predator, like John, is wounded and has to do some makeshift surgery on himself. The only difference is he uses advanced alien technology to heal himself instead of just crudely sewing himself up.

PredatorAnd that’s actually our key to understanding what this Predator dude is all about. If this guy was REALLY the great hunter he obviously thinks he is, he wouldn’t be fucking CHEATING by using advanced alien technology. The guy is making himself invisible, using laser cannons, all this shit. This seems more like Dick Cheney style bird torture than actual legitimate hunting. It’s not until the very end that Predator takes off his helmet and weapons and takes on Schwarzenegger man-to-man. But he probaly wasn’t planning that from the beginning, he probaly either got the idea from Billy when he threw down his gun, took off his shirt and cut his face, or from Dutch when he did the same kind of thing. That macho take-off-your-shirt-and-throw-down-your-weapons shit is contagious when you’re out there in the jungle away from civilization. But make no mistake about it, this Predator asshole is just some rich spacetourist coming here for some thrills. You don’t fly all the way to earth for hunting unless you got some serious money in your account. That opening shot of the shuttle firing off of the mothership and heading for earth? That’s the Predator Luxury Vacation Cruiser bringing Predator to earth for the Deluxe Big Game Hunting Package. I mean come on. Let’s not glamourize this guy.

On the other hand, I gotta be fair. We don’t speak predator and we don’t know what happened on that ship before he blasted off. Maybe they got in a big argument and he said fuck this, got in an escape pod and shot off to earth with both middle fingers blazing. Then he landed in the jungle and the soldiers there pissed him off, one thing led to another and the next thing you know there’s some skinned earthlings hanging from the trees. I mean I’m still leaning toward the rich tourist theory, but in the interest of fairness I gotta acknowledge “disgruntled predator on a rampage” as a possibility.

PREDATOR made the 2006 revised Badass 100 list, which is why I decided to re-watch it for the first time since the 1980s. I guess I owe some of you boys an apology because I’ve talked some shit about PREDATOR now and then, and it turns out you were right, this is a pretty good movie. I liked it at the time but I figured that was just the ’80s talking. And it’s true, this is clearly an ’80s movie. You got Arnold Schwarzenegger (R-CA) with his thick accent, somehow getting away with playing “Dutch,” the leader of a platoon of elite American soldiers. We had our own special brand of excess back then so a soldier couldn’t just be tough, he had to be fuckin Mr. Universe, apparently spending all his time working out instead of going on missions. And we were fascinated with firepower back then so the best character in the movie, Blaine, played by Jesse “The Body” Ventura (I-MN), had to carry around a giant gatling gun he apparently pulled off of a helicopter (I’m not sure if it’s bigger than the purposely ridiculous “Big Fucking Gun” from the movie DOOM, but it’s comparable). There’s one laughable scene where everybody just stands around firing machine guns and shit into the woods, firing a HARD BOILED amount of bullets for a couple minutes at some innocent trees. Because back then we loved machine guns and we wanted to see as many bullets fired as possible, no precision required. Also, you got some terrible oneliners (“Stick around”) and reliance on the heat vision and camouflage effects that aren’t really as cool now as they seemed at the time. And I gotta be honest, I never knew the Predator was 7 feet tall until I watched the behind the scenes documentary. Maybe they shouldn’t have given him that giant helmet. So I’m against the helmet.

But that was the kind of stuff I was remembering when I wrote the movie off. All the good stuff I forgot is what made the World Badass Committee rate the movie so high this time around, and they were probaly right. The number one reason is that it’s very well directed by John McDIEHARDTiernan. With somebody else it could’ve easily been a cheesy monster movie with guns, but McTiernan knows what to do. The production values are great. It’s shot more like a serious war film than a horror movie. Instead of some cheeseball keyboard score or noodly guitars like you get in alot of movies from the era, you got a menacing score by Alan Silvestri, that BOMP-BOMP… BOMP-BOMP… type of score like THE TERMINATOR or Basil Poledouris. It sounds like a mix between a theme song and the footsteps of a giant coming toward you.

And then the other thing is, you have a great ensemble of badasses here, and you know it as soon as the helicopter shows up with the team of special ops guys. First you got Jesse the Body, who spits out a big mouthful of tobacco and says some macho bullshit, but you don’t really care how dumb the line is because Jesse the Body has such a cool voice. (Unfortunately his dialogue in the movie is pretty minimal.) Then you have Bill Duke, who I guess is supposed to be Jesse’s best friend, although I didn’t know that until he was all broken up over Jesse’s laser-death. And you got Carl “Action Jackson” Weathers in the #2 badass slot, the CIA guy that recruits them all for this mission. The new discovery for me was Sonny Landham (R-KY) who I don’t remember from all the other movies he’s in but he has a deep voice like Jesse and adds a tough guy edge to the mystical Native American warrior stereotype. (The making of documentary claims that the insurance company forced them to have a 7 foot bodyguard on set at all times to protect everyone from Sonny, but I can’t find any evidence of why this would be necessary.)

Also you got Shane Black (writer of LETHAL WEAPON) as the conpicuously less muscled guy on the team who tells jokes about large pussies, and one other guy.

And of course Arnold. I’m not against the guy as an actor, I really like TOTAL RECALL for example, and CONAN. But I don’t worship him like some people. You know what it probaly is, it’s like Mickey Mouse. The guy is such an icon, so synonymous with action movies, that after a while you’ve looked at him too many times and he’s lost all meaning. But still, it must be acknowledged, he’s cool in this movie. He smokes cigars alot, which makes him a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT character than what Arnold would often play, in a movie without cigars. At the end, after the spacetourist has murdered all his friends, he goes primal. He builds a bunch of booby traps and tiger pits and shit, he covers himself in mud, he picks up two huge torches and screams into the jungle like some kind of fuckin mad sasquatch on the loose. With the subtitles on it it should say COME HERE YOU FUCKIN TOURIST I WILL PULL OUT THOSE SPACE-DREADLOCKS ONE BY ONE, FORCE YOU TO EAT THEM THEN WAIT FOR YOU TO SHIT THEM OUT AND THEN FORCE YOU TO EAT THEM AGAIN, AND THAT IS THE NICEST THING I WILL DO TO YOU YOU DIRTY SONOFASPACEWHORE.

It makes no sense that putting mud on his face would prevent him from being seen by heat vision. At the very least Predator is gonna see his eyes. Unless maybe he’s wearing contacts and the heat vision is powerless over contacts, but I think they would’ve mentioned that if it was supposed to be the case. Oh well. The magic of cinema.

I like Arnold in the movie but Jesse the Body definitely steals the show while he’s there. The guy is so macho and arrogant that he becomes charming. The line “I ain’t got time to bleed” obviously comes to mind. And he has a cool hat. Honestly, alot of people wouldn’t be able to pull off that ridiculous gun, “Ol’ Painless,” but Jesse does it. They have on-set interviews with him on the DVD and he is so proud and bragadocious about the gun that it’s clear he’s the guy confident enough to pull it off.

Also, I read a little on Jesse’s political career and it sounds like he definitely beat Schwarzenegger in the governing department. I don’t agree with all of his views but he sure impresses me more than most politicians. Am I reading this wrong, or did he really give a tax refund and STILL get mass transit constructed? I wish he was mayor of Seattle. He also apparently supported gay rights, medical marijuana and third parties (obviously). At one point there was a bill to promote the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools. I’m sure every other governor in the country would’ve signed off on it and got a little extra shine on their American flag lapel pin. But Jesse vetoed it and said, “I believe patriotism comes from the heart. Patriotism is voluntary. It is a feeling of loyalty and allegiance that is the result of knowledge and belief. A patriot shows their patriotism through their actions, by their choice [such as voting, attending community meetings and speaking out when needed]. No law will make a citizen a patriot.”

In PREDATOR he chews tobacco and says, “Bunch of slack-jawed faggots around here. This stuff will make you a god damned sexual Tyrannosaurus, just like me.” Same guy.

But even though Jesse is my favorite on the team, you gotta give the movie credit for how solid the whole team is. I mean, The Terminator, Apollo Creed, Jesse the Body, Bill Duke and this Sonny Landham guy all in one elite force? That’s a hell of alot closer to a real Dirty Dozen than you usually get in an action movie, especially in the ’80s. And when the action goes down it’s some good stuff, partly thanks to my man Craig R. Baxley. PREDATOR is important because of its place in Baxley’s career. It was the first time he got to be second unit director on a feature film. And I don’t think it’s a coincidence that it was also his last movie as a stunt coordinator. A year later, he and Carl Weathers went off to make ACTION JACKSON together. And the rest is Baxlistory. Which is a real word, in my opinion. Look it up.

Anyway, what I’m saying is: welcome to the Badass 100, PREDATOR. I didn’t think I’d ever say this about a Schwarzenegger-fighting-an-alien movie, but I approve.

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30 Responses to “Predator”

  1. Rudolf Klein-Rogge

    September 30th, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    Having a mini-McTiernan-marathon tonight, and started it with Predator (followed by BASIC – where’s your review of that one? – and NOMADS). Naturally I came here to read what you had to say, and briefly wanted to comment on the Sonny Landham bodyguard business. Apparently, Landham would do beyond crazy things whenever he got drunk, hence the bodyguard. Larry Gross elaborates on it in one of the 10 parts of his FANTASTIC “48Hrs Journal”. All of the 10 parts can be found on moviecitynews, though I had trouble finding some of them. Well worth the search, and well worth the read. First part, to wet your appetites: http://moviecitynews.com/2008/05/part-one-before-the-movie-shoots/

    Also, can’t believe you didn’t remember Landham from the various Walter Hills, and – yes – ACTION JACKSON, which you even mention in this review.

  2. Rudolf Klein-Rogge

    September 30th, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    BTW, there’s also a very good ACTION JACKSON-Landham-Carl Weathers-Joel Silver anecdote hidden somewhere in the Gross piece, if I recall correctly.

  3. There’s not much point in discussing this movie because everyone knows it’s great and practically flawless, but two things of note: 1) I never really understood the “conspiracy” subplot – I mean I get the gist that Weathers lied to get them to do the job, but I mean- there still were hostages, right? I mean we saw one get executed. I’ve just never really understood what the betrayal was about. 2) For years as a kid I only saw the TV cut of Predator, it took out most of the language but only the grossest of the gore. i.e. the still-shooting arm and Mac’s brains splattering on the camera. But more importantly it cut out the scene with the pig and the scene with Mac talking to the moon. And I hate to say it, but the movie’s alot better without those scenes – they just play like bad deleted scenes. The pig scene with the corny slasher movie knife shot doesn’t fool anyone with it’s big reveal, and it kinda makes no sense that they’d be joking and busting Mac’s balls with the Predator out there. It breaks the tension and not in a good way. And the moon scene – we JUST had the scene with Mac and the flask and Blaine – it’s really redundant to have a whole other scene stressing “Mac and Blaine were really good friends”. In a movie as tight and economical as this one, it’s weird they let those two scenes slip through.

  4. This will be most welcome.

    Even if Shane Black looks like Dante from CLERKS.

  5. Biggest news for me is that Black is co-writing the reboot with Fred Dekker. You know, those two guys wrote THE MONSTER SQUAD back in the day.

  6. I like this news so much.

  7. I welcome this too, but honestly I’d much rather see that 70’s noir he has with Russell Crowe and Ryan Gosling are buzzing around.

  8. Jesse Ventura was on Steve Austin’s podcast recently and talked a little about the Vietnam flashbacks he had during filming.

  9. In honor of Arnold going up against another Predator this thread is bumped.

  10. “The making of documentary claims that the insurance company forced them to have a 7 foot bodyguard on set at all times to protect everyone from Sonny, but I can’t find any evidence of why this would be necessary.”

    Apparently it was because Sonny Landham became really dangerous when he got drunk, at least according to this retroactive article:

    Guns and (Shea) Butter: An Oral History of 'Predator'

    To commemorate the 30th anniversary of the action-horror classic's release, THR spoke to key players who persevered through oppressive heat, bugs, a "red rubber chicken" and the diva-esque behavior of a future star (no, not that one) to launch a franchise.

    (The article is also worth reading for the complete lack of consensus as to why Jean-Claude Van Damme was fired from the movie.)

  11. I would like to give a shout out to the official PREDATOR Twitter account, because whoever is responsible for it, cracks me up on a regular basis.

    https://twitter.com/Predator

  12. Right Predator this time!

    OK, this is too clever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi2eHPKjW9k

  13. Hi, AU! I hope you’re doing well.

  14. Dreadguacamole

    May 25th, 2019 at 4:31 pm

    I don’t know if you fine folks knew already about the spider species named after the movie, but this is too cool not to share:

    Check out the species names!

  15. That article makes me happy since I’m always talking about the fact that most movie buffs around my age can probably name everyone in Predator and most of the main characters in Aliens (and possibly Alien). Yet I literally could not tell you what anyone’s name was in The Predator reboot or Alien:Covenant if you had a three dotted laser sight to my head.

  16. There’s a hilarious article on The Hollywood Reporter ranking the Predator movies and it has the original PREDATOR third.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/predator-movies-ranked-from-worst-to-best/prey-2022/

    I’m all for opinions, but that’s the craziest take about films I’ve seen since someone claimed PSYCHO 2 was better than PSYCHO.

  17. Miguel, there are also brain-dead lunkheads who dismiss Predator as just another cheesy ’80s muscle-fest — which is basically code for “I watched the poster, not the movie.”

    So congrats on the stealth confession: you clearly didn’t watch Predator. Or if you did, it flew so far over your head it’s probably still orbiting.

  18. @KayKay

    Wait, what are you on about? Predator, as much as I love it IS pretty much as lunk-headed as you can get. Big dude beats bigger dude because he doesn’t rely on bigger “pyrotechnics” but perseveres through cunning and guile. I love it as much as all of us here but it “ain’t a big think”. That’s kinda why you can’t catch it again; if you make this brute think, it is going to flail around and probably catch on fire at a wedding or something.

  19. Well I would clearly rank the original PREDATOR as by far the best in the series (not number 3 like the ranking article does.) And as someone whom saw the film the first time opening weekend in 1987 and at least (conservatively) 40 times since, I’m pretty sure nothing went over my head during any of the viewings. Given that it’s directed by John McTiernan, that automatically elevates it to the best directed and most astutely visual of the films as well. But it is lunkheaded muscle fest to some degree, but there are a number of interesting angles about how the film shifts the nature of action film tropes by convincingly assembling a squad of guys who realistically should never loose a fight and then rewrites film language by convincingly having them loose (almost.)

    And at one point I did have the one sheet for the film on my bedroom wall. It was a great poster.

  20. Mr. Aktion Figure

    I (respectfully) beg to differ

    People who lump Predator in with the usual “lunkhead ‘80s action flicks” remind me of the guys who bought those bootleg 3-in-1 “Schwarzenegger Extravaganza” DVDs off a street vendor — where Predator got crammed onto the same disc as Commando and Raw Deal*. The latter two? Sure, cheesy fun. But Predator? That’s a whole different beast.

    We’re talking about a film that starts as a testosterone-soaked shoot-’em-up replete with Tough Guy posturing and soliloquys so macho, you sprout chest hair just just listening to it (I ain’t got time to bleed!) , but then flips into a masterfully paced horror-survival thriller layered with dread, strategy, and a stealthy, terrain-savvy killer that turns elite commandos into prey. It’s smart. It’s subversive. Hell, it’s practically a Vietnam War allegory in camo.

    So yeah, opinions vary. But if you’re tossing Predator into the same bin as brainless bullet-fests, we’re not just watching different movies — we’re living on different planets. Let’s part ways before I lose faith in humanity.

    * For the record, while I continue to regard RAW DEAL as lesser Arnie, I have never ever NOT loved COMMANDO

  21. Fair enough KayKay and certainly I’m being hyperbolic with the “lunk-headed as you can get”. You’re correct but it still is KINDA the most “lunk-headed” of Alien riffs you can imagine. I lurve it, don’t get me wrong but it is as if they were like “Alien but they got guns and it’s got tech and for budget reasons maybe it take place in a non-descript jungle, maybe?”

  22. Just saw THE MANDALORIAN: PREDATOR EDITION. I both love that they’re still making PREDATOR movies that don’t really repeat a formula, and… kind of hated the movie itself? Maybe I’m just a grumpy old guy but I don’t think I needed to see a sensitive Predator who has feelings, plenty of dialogue, a name, monologues about his motivations (“I’m going to do this… to avenge… MY BROTHER!!!”), a baby yoda, and a sassy sidekick, in an action comedy. After the goofy prologue where predators are Sith now, and have problematic dads that make them cry, and a codex (do you think other predators make fun of the predator who wrote the codex for being such a nerd about predator rules?), I thought the movie could still win me over with that crazy planet where every single living thing is out to get our poor little predator (evil vines! exploding slugs! razor grass!), but overall I just found it too groanworthy. Props to them for the effort of making a unique PREDATOR movie and having more restraint than ALIEN ROMULUS on nods and winks to previous movies, but other than the ALIEN VS PREDATOR ones it’s easily my least favorite PREDATOR movie.

  23. “certainly I’m being hyperbolic with the “lunk-headed as you can get”.”

    Oh yeah I definitely got that, as I’m sure you got the playful sarcasm my response came shrink-wrapped in.

    Your take on PREDATOR was exactly mine for the first half‑dozen rewatches. Then it started peeling back layers I never knew were there.

  24. Maybe I’m just the GRUMPIER OLD GUY, but I didn’t sign up for a Predator with feelings, a name, and monologues about his inner journey. Spare me the Emo Pred with Daddy Issues, dragging along a sidekick and a marketable furry mascot.

    PREY proved you can tweak the recipe without wrecking the flavor. This, though? Straight‑up Disneyfication.

    Next on the slate: ALIEN: TERMS OF ENDEARMENT—a plucky young Xenomorph chasing her dreams while Mom insists she stick to the family business of face‑sucking and egg‑laying.

  25. I don’t mind all of that (on paper, haven’t seen it yet), but I am really mad that it apparently made AvP canon. These two series were never meant to exist in the same universe and the whole AvP concept is a joke that went WAY too far.

  26. Weyland-Yutani is the main antagonist and there’s one thing clearly taken from ALIENS that I won’t spoil (and didn’t even mind, to be honest). But no xenomorph. So, you know. You can still consider AVP non-canon, I’d say. But then again I’m the kind of person who thinks any TERMINATOR after TERMINATOR 2 is just big budget fanfic.

  27. Yeah, you see, that works, considering that basically every TERMINATOR sequel after part 2 feels like a stand-alone “what if” tale and part 6 (unintentionally?) confirmed it with its alternate timelines plot, but I was fully expecting Dan Trachtenberg to be smart enough to keep the ALIEN universe and all its characters including evil companies out of the PREDATOR world. Okay, I still have the option to watch BADLANDS as a AvP sequel and not a PREDATOR one, but…ugh. No amount of actually fun video games and comics can describe how much I hate the idea that these two series exist canonically in the same world, just because someone thought it would be funny to randomly put a Xenomprh skull in a Predator trophy case.

  28. That was supposed to mean: “No amount of actually fun video games and comics can MAKE UP FOR HOW MUCH I HATE…”

    That’S what happens when you angrily post while multitasking.

  29. Ooof, thank goodness – everyone I know IRL liked BADLANDS.
    There’s dumb fun, and then there’s insult to your intelligence – and the script crosses that line early and never looks back. That might be forgiveable if the action and the spectacle were decent, but it’s murky, the omnipresent CGI lacks heft and verosimilitude, the action is poorly blocked and edited, the visuals are full of clichés, and there is so much posing and posturing…
    You know what? Disneyfication is the perfect term for it, in the sense that this is basically a Marvel movie. And not one of the good ones. Screw this noise.

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