"I take orders from the Octoboss."


tn_juiceJUICE is an early ’90s “hood movie” about four young friends in New York who fall into some stupid shit. Tired of getting picked on by the Puerto Rican kids and the cops and not having money, they decide to get a gun (just one between them) and rob a little mini-mart where the guy is an asshole and yells at them sometimes. It’s not exactly The Thomas Crown Affair they’re trying to pull off, but they’re amateurs so they fuck up this small time crime and have to deal with the aftermath.

We see all this through the eyes of Q (18-year-old Omar Epps in his first movie), basically a good kid and also a very talented DJ, just now getting some traction since he decided to enter a big DJ contest. His friends don’t even really support him in following that dream, but he does it anyway.

mp_juiceSo you might think he should just say fuck those guys, but he has a loyalty to them and he feels the same frustrations they do, so in an act of stupidity he goes with them to do this robbery. Shoulda just stayed and hung out with Doctor Dre and Ed Lover at the contest, in my opinion. And Fab 5 Freddy was there too! Why would you just leave? There’s a great moment when Q is up behind the turntables in front of the crowd, in a post-triumph glow, and he looks out and sees his friends. They’re not even smiling for him because they’re there to pick him up for the robbery. That should’ve been the tip-off, though. These guys don’t even give a shit that you beat a bunch of legendary DJs your first time out. Fuck those guys.

Raheem (Khalil Kain) is complicated like Q is. He seems kind of like the big brother and the peacemaker. When Q and this other guy Bishop (played by 19-year-old Tupac Shakur in his first role other than the Digital Underground cameo in NOTHING BUT TROUBLE) keep sniping at each other it’s Raheem that tells them they have to “squash this” and forces them to talk it out. But he’s not exactly the conscience of the group either, because he really wants to do this robbery.

Bishop is the Mr. Blonde in their crew. He’s kind of a suspense-thriller encapsulation of Tupac’s later public persona: charismatic, funny, macho, crazy, dangerous. At first it seems like he’s just reckless and getting out of control, then you start to realize that no, he’s a straight up psychopath. The creepiest moment in the movie is when he goes to the family get-together after the funeral of the friend he shot to death. Q knows Bishop did it but the family doesn’t, so Bishop acts like a sweetheart, offering support and hugs to the mom and the sister while having a threatening staredown with Q over their shoulders.

Before that you can laugh at him a little bit. His loud enthusiasm for the Jimmy Cagney movie WHITE HEAT is pretty great. You’d expect him to be that into SCARFACE or something, but not an old film noir.

There are a few little things that mess with the otherwise gritty and down-to-earth feel of the movie. Samuel L. Jackson’s character seems to have a supernatural ability to know everything (there’s a joke about him already having heard on the streets that Q got into the DJ contest right as he walks out of the audition). There’s a really far-fetched scene where Raheem happens to walk into a restaurant and run into an old friend, who it turns out is about to rob the place and offers to let him join in. He politely declines and is able to just leave peacefully, only finding out later on the news that his friend got killed.

And there are some jokey little cameos, like EPMD are in the background of that restaurant  scene right after the kids shoplift a 12″ of their song “Rampage” featuring LL Cool J. Better yet there’s a scene where Jackson is talking to a buddy, and I didn’t realize it at first but the buddy is Oran “Juice” Jones. I knew he looked familiar, I think I must’ve seen him spying on me one time when I was walking in the rain with his girl. Anyway, you get it? His nickname is Juice. The movie is called JUICE. It’s hard to explain.

On the other hand I have to admit that one of the weird, less believable moments is one of my favorites. Q goes to a place where he’s heard he can get a gun. It’s not what you’d expect, it’s like a little diner club for older people, he doesn’t fit in it all. There’s a lady named Sweets (Jacqui Dickerson – maybe the director’s mom?) in charge, and she gives him the weapon because she recognizes him from when he was younger. “Tell your Mother Jacqui said hi,” she tells him.

I guess you don’t really hear about JUICE too much anymore. Probly even less so in Europe, since it was released there as ANGEL TOWN II, a sequel to an Oliver Gruner movie. But it turns out it holds up well, and it’s also interesting as an important piece in the puzzle of ’90s pop culture. It came out in January ’92 – less than a year after NEW JACK CITY, BOYZ N THE HOOD and STRAIGHT OUT OF BROOKLYN, about a year and a half before MENACE II SOCIETY. Shakur wasn’t a superstar yet. He only had the mildly successful 2Pacalypse Now album under his belt, and was still just a spin-off from Digital Underground. I know some people in documentaries have said he got too into the role of Bishop and that’s what turned him from thoughtful political guy to “thug life” dude going around getting in arguments where everybody pulls guns out. I don’t know, but he’s really good in the movie. If you don’t understand his popularity from listening to his music, watching this movie might help. It’s not a “hey, I recognize this famous rapper” performance, it’s a “whoah, this guy should switch to acting” one.

The director is Ernest Dickerson, who started as a cinematographer on Spike Lee’s student film JOE’S BED-STUY BARBERSHOP: WE CUT HEADS. Then he did a couple movies like THE BROTHER FROM ANOTHER PLANET and KRUSH GROOVE and 8 episodes of Tales From the Crypt before doing Lee’s first six movies, from SHE’S GOTTA HAVE IT through MALCOLM X. With JUICE he switched over to director, but it later turned out he wasn’t gonna be the auteur type like Spike. If you ask me his first three were solid entertainment. JUICE was followed by SURVIVING THE GAME and TALES FROM THE CRYPT: DEMON KNIGHT. Then some other stuff, then the Snoop Dogg horror vehicle BONES was kinda funny. Since ’04 he’s been where all the journeymen directors go, TVland, directing shows including but not limited to Third Watch, Criminal Minds, CSI Miami, Heroes, 6 episodes of The Wire, Burn Notice, SGU Stargate Universe, Treme, The Walking Dead and Dexter. You know, Ernest Dickerson type shows.

But JUICE was good.

It’s a good time capsule too. They listen to their music on cassette tape. They shoplift from a record store – new releases on vinyl – that also rents movies on VHS. There’s an ABOVE THE LAW poster on the wall, and I mean the Steven Seagal movie, not the West Coast rap group. Q has a huge Malcolm X poster behind his turntables (the guy, not the movie) because young people didn’t have phones back then so they cared about stuff like that.

Queen Latifah plays the lady who runs the DJ contest, and this was when she was a current rapper. She still wore a big hat and everything.

Steel (Jermaine Hopkins) has an appreciation for older artists, though. In the record store scene he wants to steal the album Starbooty by Roy Ayers’ group Ubiquity, but nobody else is into it. I guess they’re kinda right, Starbooty is pretty disco. He coulda found something better.

The score is credited to Hank Shocklee and The Bomb Squad – that means the producers of Public Enemy’s early albums and Ice Cube’s Amerikkka’s Most Wanted, basically the greatest hip hop producers of all time if you ask me. The score is no It Takes a Nation of Millions To Hold Us Back, but it’s got some good beats for chase scenes and shit. Shocklee also helped out with some of the songs on the soundtrack. There are some good ones by Eric B and Rakim, Cypress Hill, EPMD, Big Daddy Kane, and that guy “Son of Bazerk” that the Bomb Squad produced that never caught on much.

Please enjoy the excellent theme song, “Juice (Know the Ledge)” by Eric B and Rakim.


And for tangentally-related extra credit here’s Ghostface Killah from his “More Fish” album, having the balls to do his own song over an entire instrumental from one of the greatest rappers of all time… and in my opinion actually pulling it off.

Further reading:
“Bringing the Noise to ‘Juice’: Sonic architect Hank Shocklee surveys the future radically and sees videos, merchandising tie-ins and even rap opera” from The L.A. Times, January 19, 1992.
“Juice fresh 20 years on” from The Guardian, September 29, 2011.

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38 Responses to “Juice”

  1. For my money, STILL one of the best hip-hop film OST’s of all time. And I STILL have it, on cassette, natch.

    Actually, knowing your affinity for early-90’s rap and movies in general, I’m really surprised you haven’t reviewed this yet. Juice was one of my favorite movies as a kid. I even tried to get my friends to start calling me “Q” but it never took.

    And good call on the EPMD cameo, AND I never realized that was Oran “Juice” Jones. Thanks for that. “Walking in the Rain” is my mofuckin cut.

  2. Reading this review was like the fifth time in the past couple days that I’ve seen/heard references to Oran “Juice” Jones and his song, which is probably five times more instances of that than in the entire past year. I think the universe is trying to warn me about stalkers and/or possibly scurvy.

  3. Damn, Vern, you’re lucky the Juice didn’t run up on you and pull a Rambo, pull out the jammy and flat blast both y’all. I guess he didn’t want to mess up his $37,000 lynx coat.

  4. Aw man, I screwed up the quote. It’s a $3,700 lynx coat. I guess I didn’t know the ledge.

  5. “Please enjoy the excellent theme song, “Juice (Know the Ledge)” by Eric B and Rakim.”

    I actually did, it’s a pretty catchy “danceable” beat… but I understand maybe one in five phrases that the rapper is actually saying. Seriously, I have no clue. You Americans actually understand this stuff? It’s like “Truck Turner” all over again.

    Admittedly my entire hip-hop, rap, and black music generally (although does Skunk Anansie count as “black music” given that the lead singer is?) comprises of one “Public Enemy” album, one “Outkast” album, and a few compilation CDs. But still… I don’t remember having any problems understanding those guys.

  6. Don’t take it too hard, Paul. I feel the same way when I’m listening to Chas & Dave. I have to have my English roommate break down every line to its basic components like the annotated versions of Shakespeare.

  7. Whatever. White people invented Battle Raps anyway:
    I think the closest I’ve come to seeing this movie is DON’T BE A MENACE TO SOUTH CENTRAL WHILE DRINKING YOUR JUICE IN THE HOOD. I’m sure that’s pretty much the same thing.

  8. Rabbit rabbit rabbit rabbit

  9. is it a coincidence that just a few days ago I mentioned NOTHING BUT TROUBLE?

  10. Queen Latifah, pre-breast reduction. Why the heck would she ever do that? I mean, I understand why, back pain and everything, but it’s the feminine version of self emasculation… self defeminization. Teh bewbs are teh power, why remove your own power?

  11. Life without Pac is like cornflakes without the milk.

  12. Paul: I’ve been to screenings of TRAINSPOTTING and THE FULL MONTY that were subtitled for North American audiences. I also know at least three people who couldn’t watch THE OFFICE (UK) without the subtitles activated. In return, North America sent you Beck to figure out. It all evens out in the end.

  13. Hank Shocklee doesn’t have a Wikipedia page. So he can’t have contributed anything to culture, or be that interesting.
    Again, excellent review.

  14. “Life without Pac is like cornflakes without the milk.”
    You’ve never had a chocolate cornflake cake?

  15. With most British movies i have to put on the subtitles. The other day i watched Withnail and I and about 15 minutes in I had to swallow my pride and admit that i couldn’t understand a god damn thing these guys were saying so I put on the subtitles. As far as hip hop goes, i think Soulja Boy’s Crank That is the epitomy of “i have no clue what this guy is talking about” hip hop. Say what you want about Tupac, but at least i knew what the dude was talking about in his songs.

  16. Well, in fairness, Tupac really only had four topics:

    1. I will kill you.
    2. Isn’t it a bummer how we kill each other?
    3. I fuck lots of bitches.
    4. Isn’t it a bummer how we disrespect our women?

  17. 5. Ca-li-for-nyah.

  18. I’ve seen lots of British interviews and programs in the States with subtitles. I always thought it was a one way thing, until I watch the Kings of Leon documentary last Saturday. Some of the people on that were, to the best of my knowledge, speaking pure gibberish. Subtitles would have helped.

  19. *watched*

  20. Ace, aren’t you Scottish?

    Is this really a discussion you want to get into?

  21. Don’t get me wrong, I’d give my left nut to speak like a Scotsman. That’s like a license to print pussy over here.

  22. Excellent movie. It takes pleasures in the little cultural details in such a way that makes it feel time-capsuley rather than dated. Even more shocking is that you can watch it after The Wire and it doesn’t seem stupid. Compare it to contemporary movies like the fantastic but campy New Jack City and I dunno, Juice just seemed more mature and believable. Not as good as Do the Right Thing but awesome.

  23. Jareth: The thing I found out about the British Office for me is that once in a while I have to go back and watch a line with subtitles to make out what it is. Most of the time I can understand, but everyone once in a while I have no fucking clue. Trainspotting is easy though. Also, is there a thing about Beck being hard for unAmericans to understand?

  24. No I’m an English man. Don’t get me wrong, I did very well with a my accent in the States. I’d even posh it up a bit and could find myself punching well above my weight. I called it the Roger Moore effect.

  25. So I’m the only Scotsman here, huh? Ah’m tempted noo tae just write in an exaggerated accent tae bamboozle yehs aw. Jings.

  26. Ach! Stoop et! Mae wee mind cannae take nae mar!

  27. Please no, Stu. The transcription of a heavy Scottish accent added 2 hours to my time reading V FOR VENDETTA.

  28. Ach, don’t be such a wee jessie, Mooth! Wud it help ye sum if ah restricted muh use ae it tae this here comments section?

  29. Then why not the gravatar of the Scottish Doctor Stu?

  30. Which wan? There wur two ae them!

  31. Well here’s a compromise I went with. >>

  32. nabroleon dynamite

    December 4th, 2011 at 11:17 am

    @Stu. Nah B, white people didn’t “invent” battle raps. African griots were dropping mega dope disses at rivals from the beginning of the drum.

    But I think all of those variant influences helped to create the American art form called “Hip-Hop”

    @Vern. I think it’s clear that Tupac became possessed by the “hood props” he received from playing bishop in juice. (Peep “Thug Angel”)

    Respectful Request: review “The Last Circus” & “Kidnapped” please my dude!!

  33. The only movie that I ever saw at the cinema two showings in a row.

  34. This and Menace II Society were very popular when I was a teenager in the UK (Norn Iron). They were maybe the too most circulated videos at school even amongst people with no interest in rap.

  35. I learned over the last few years that the theme song is very popular among open format DJs, who love to drop old school hip hop every once in a while in their sets and mixtapes. (And I’m totally okay with that.)

  36. It’s because that bass line is a fucking monster. Hip-hop lost a big chunk of its soul the day it switched to entirely electronic bass.

  37. Yeah, I like electronic beats probably more than anybody else here, but I really miss the days when Hip Hop artists and producers actually invested some time in digging through more or less obscure funk and soul records and such, just to find the right beats and samples for their tracks.

  38. I like a lot of electronic music (most of it of the non-dance variety) but there’s just something about the variety of sound you can get from crate-digging that can’t be replicated with a computer. Unless you’re some kind of genius, the odds of you coming up with a bass line as dope as any random four seconds of a Charles Mingus sample are just not that great.

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