SPOILER ALERT !!
I am – Hercules!!
“The Boondocks” is a Cartoon Network half-hour about black people. A new and untested Coaxial News spy who calls himself “Vern” (and appears to bill himself as an “outlaw” of some sort!) here offers an endorsement.
The 9th “Boondocks” episode, titled “Return of the King,” repeats Saturday night at 11 p.m. and 2 a.m. The 10th episode, “The Itis,” premieres Sunday night at 11 p.m. and repeats at 3 a.m. Sunday
VERN’S LONG ESSAY ABOUT THE BOONDOCKS
Dear Hercules T. Strong,
My name is Vern and I am a fellow writer here at The Ain’t It Cool News. I usually write over on the “movie” side though, because that’s my thing. You would have seen some of my Writings however at the time you were busy watching VERONICA OF MARS or some show like that. But they were pretty good reviews, you would’ve liked them in my opinion.
The truth is bud, and please don’t take offense to this, but I don’t watch a whole hell of alot of the TV these days. There’s just not alot there that floats my boat. In fact sometimes I read your articles and I don’t even understand your crazy TV slang. Teleplay? Colorcast? Hourlongs? Skein? Simulblogged? HBO? I’m even more out of my element when you make those little in-references. Take a look at these three items:
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One is a friendly email I recently received, one is a recent Coaxial headline, and one is a coaxial headline translated into Japanese and then back into English. You can probaly tell which is which because you speak both English and Herc. Me, they all look exactly the same. The idea here is not to take potshots at your jargon, but to establish that I am not a with-it TV type of dude. But it just so happens there is exactly one TV show I really do like that I don’t think you’ve ever written about or done a talkback for. So I have no choice but to send you a long essay about the first season so far (9 episodes I think).
I’ve already preambled on for too long, but I still gotta explain that not only do I not watch much TV, I sure as shit don’t watch cartoons. For example I took some heat in the talkbacks for criticizing the “South park” guys (for TEAM AMERICA) and also I can’t stand the one where the guy has balls on his chin. But THE BOONDOCKS, which plays on the Children’s Cartoons Network every Sunday at 11 pm, is an interesting show that I suggest checking out. Also it is the topic of that long essay I was warning you about. Okay here I go bud.
THE BOONDOCKS is one of the few African-American cartoon shows not created by Bill Cosby. It’s the story of Robert “Granddad” Freeman and his two grandchildren, Huey and Riley, who he moves to the white suburban neighborhood of Woodcrest. All three lead characters are voiced by alumni of the movie FRIDAY: the hilarious John Witherspoon plays Granddad (basically an older version of his character in FRIDAY, minus the obsession with shitting) and Regina King plays both Huey and Riley. Little brother Riley is an ignorant hellion, obsessed with guns and gangsta rap, he constantly uses “the n word” (never saw that on FAT ALBERT I don’t think) and tries to start riots by throwing chairs (because he doesn’t watch Brown Hornet, he watches The Source Awards). Trying to compliment his grandpa by telling him he should change his middle name to “Bitches,” he has to explain, “I don’t mean bitch in a disrespectful way, I mean it as a general term for women.”
Huey is the thoughtful member of the family, alot of times he narrates the show and serves as the conscience, trying to point out the world’s madness to the other characters. He’s also a proud black militant who, on the Christmas episode, wrote and directed a controversial school play called “The Adventures of Black Jesus.” We also recently learned, in a spookily timely episode, that there may be a government agent (John C. McGinley from ON DEADLY GROUND) assigned to spy on him full time.
I guess you could understand who the characters are just by watching the introduction to the show, where Huey is shown as Che Guevara, Riley is shown as Tony Montana and Granddad is spinning around swinging a belt like it’s a whip.
The two things that seem to most influence THE BOONDOCKS are Charlie Brown and Japanese cartoons. This is one show that doesn’t seem completely modeled after THE SIMPSONS. So far there’s not much of a formula to the stories. I like how they try different things like in one of my favorite episodes, “The Fight,” there is a long narrated flashback explaining the whole life of a grouchy blind asshole leading up to the point in his life where he whoops Granddad’s ass in a fight over a parking space.
It’s not a perfect show. Not every joke works. Especially in the first episode about the garden party. It was pretty broad in its depiction of rich white people, although the idea of little Huey trying to disrupt a garden party by talking about the security cameras at the Pentagon on 9-11 was hilarious. Again, not something you’re gonna see on LITTLE BILL I bet. But the more episodes I see the more I think this is a funny show with good character-based humor, a unique feel and, every once in a while, some challenging ideas. It’s the kind of show that gets funnier the more you get to know the characters and that will probaly grow into true greatness if it gets a second season.
Now maybe I’m missing some shows in my TV ignorance (as you can see I am only familiar with shows created by Bill Cosby), but I don’t know of any other social satire on TV that comes from a black perspective. Let alone a cartoon. The people behind this show are obviously complicated: they love hip hop but are uncomfortable with some of its images; they use “the n word” but care deeply about the accomplishments of the generation that fought against it; they hate stereotypes but are amused by pimps and gangsters. They like a pop culture joke as much as the next guy (young Riley is shocked to learn that “Ice Cube, the guy from the family movies, used to be a gangsta rapper”) but that doesn’t seem like a big focus of the show at all.
I don’t want to make it sound like a novelty, but the simple fact that this is a cartoon show about the black experience makes it fresh. They can’t do jokes about Homer Simpson or Snoopy’s days in the civil rights movement. Popeye doesn’t have a relationship with Rosa Parks. But on THE BOONDOCKS there’s a classic flashback where we find out the firehoses Granddad always brags about facing down never actually hit him. (Everybody thought he was an asshole because he not only showed up to the march late, but showed up wearing a rain coat.)
The cartoon is based on a comic strip I’ve seen in the funnies. I always wanted to like the comic strip because the guy is so into uphill battles. It takes a certain type of individual to take on the Bush administration or modern race politics in a medium usually used for fat asshole cats and babies laying around on the floor complaining about stupid bullshit. I could be wrong but I don’t think Ziggy even knows who the fuck Condoleeza Rice is let alone has an opinion on her. The trouble is, alot of the time I agree with the sentiment but the joke (if there is one) isn’t funny. The cartoon is a different story. They have 20 minutes to develop a story and characters, instead of those 3 little squares. So when there’s politics, they usually fit in smoothly, taking a backseat to the comedy.
There’s a cliche character in movies and TV: the White Guy Who Thinks He’s Black. You know, there was that Jamie Kennedy movie, there was WHITE BOYS, etc. The first episode of THE BOONDOCKS introduced a character like that, but in a way I’ve never seen before: they gave him Charlie Murphy’s voice. Who would think to do that? Draw a white guy and give him one of the blackest voices imaginable. Then they piled onto the joke in a later episode where this character has a buddy, another white guy… but voiced by Samuel L. Jackson in full-on fire and brimstone “AND I HOPE THEY BURN IN HAY-ELL” mode.
While you’re still enjoying that joke, Jackson’s character starts to work in some dialogue from PULP FICTION. Well, that’s not necessary, I thought. But then he starts to mix with that quotes from Donald Rumsfeld. So you got Jules Winfield talking about “There are known knowns and there are unknown knowns!” in that voice he used to scare the shit out of Brad and steal his tasty burger. Maybe I’m just slow but they were already well into the allegory before I realized this Rumsfeld character was a hint that the episode was not really about stopping for a shootout at a convenience store on the way to apprehend The X-box Killer (long story). It was a very complicated and strangely appropriate metaphor for the Iraq war.
That’s the only one that bothers with foreign policy, though. Usually the subjects are more personal. Probaly the best episode, and definitely the most daring, was last week’s Martin Luther King Day episode “Return of the King.” This episode is about what would happen if Dr. King, after being shot in Memphis, actually went into a coma and woke up again in 2000. It takes alot of balls to try a premise like that but these are exactly the guys to do it. They portray Dr. King as a great man, but also a confused old man in a world where he doesn’t belong. The voice actor does a great job of sounding like Dr. King but older, a little confused, a little sad. There’s a great balance of political humor (he tries to vote in the 2000 election but is rejected due to “voting irregularities”) and just goofy shit (he has a hard time downloading Mahalia Jackson MP3s from the iTunes store). Granddad gets to say the line, “How dare you embarrass me in front of Martin Luther King!”
When Dr. King goes on Politically Incorrect and talks about turning the other cheek, the media brands him a traitor. This part of the episode isn’t perfect (that guy’s supposed to be Bill Maher?) but I thought it was a brilliant point. I never thought of it exactly like that but I’m positive they’re right. If Dr. King was just a living guy and not the legendary martyr that even Trent Lott has to pretend to love, he would get the same treatment in the media as everybody else. And I don’t think it would just be from the Bill O’Reilly types. I think decades of media bullshit would’ve convinced alot of the country that Dr. King is some looney or some jerk just trying to get attention. Think of Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Louis Farrakhan. I’m not saying those guys are the equals of Dr. King but I have no doubt that a living Dr. King would get the exact same condescending (at best) treatment from the media and the general white public.
But that’s only a small part of “Return of the King.” Most of the episode is actually an attack on aspects of contemporary black entertainment. The scene that really got me is the one where poor Dr. King sits in horror watching ass-shaking hoes on BET. I love Spike Lee but personally I think this episode is a more precise and much more entertaining version of what Spike was trying to do in BAMBOOZLED. To me that was such a powerful image to watch Martin Luther King just sitting there disillusioned about what has become of the world he worked so hard to improve. I mean honestly, what would L’il Jon or somebody think if they knew MLK was watching? (Later we find out Dr. King watched SOUL PLANE.)
Sure enough, the day after the episode aired I saw Aaron McGruder, the creator of the show, having to defend it on Nightline. Some carefully unamused white lady trying to sternly question him about why he had Dr. King say “the n word” and does he REALLY think Dr. King would be criticized for being a pacifist if he was alive today? “Yeah!” McGruder said without hesitation, going on to explain why King wouldn’t fit into the modern world of soundbites and fake outrage and stupid moronic bullshit like an episode of Nightline where a white lady who has never heard of the Boondocks has to pretend to be outraged by the young black man who created it. Maybe she would’ve cracked a smile if she had seen the scene where Dr. King awkwardly co-presents an MTV video of the year award with Puff Daddy. That scene made me laugh but it made me sad too because I really truly believe that’s what would happen. I mean come on, you fucking KNOW it would.
I can understand why you wouldn’t want to do talkbacks for this show, Herc. Between the Iraq commentary in that one episode, the race politics and the use of hip hop, you’d pretty much be sending out a mating call to every nutbag with a talkback account. I predict that Jews and Peter Jackson would also be slandered in the crossfire. But in some other forum or in a magical future where people can be polite and have real discussions with each other, this would be a show to talk about. It brings up alot of things worth discussing. And better than that, it’s funny.
So okay, yeah, what do I know about TV, but I think THE BOONDOCKS is good TV. If you haven’t seen it or if you only watched the first episode, I recommend giving it a shot. “Return of the King” reruns on Saturday night and then there’s a new episode on Sunday.
Or you could also read a book that would also be good.
your new tv watching friend,
p.s. if you’re gonna put those big ass amazon ads at the end I recommend the 24 pack of Steven Seagal’s Lightning Bolt. Cherry Charge, please. Or maybe some kind of Barely Legal box set if there is one. thanks bud.
Originally posted at Ain’t-It-Cool-News: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/22237
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Jan. 21, 2006, 2:58 a.m. CST
If you don’t know any other social satire on TV that comes from a black perspective, then you are missing out. Try watching Girlfriends, it impresses me much more than BOONDOCKS. Girlfriends has been on for years, and while the latest shows are not as strong as the past shows, it is still the best Black show on television right now, in my opinion.
Jan. 21, 2006, 3:09 a.m. CST
by Droogie Alex
First, Bitches, First I say!
Jan. 21, 2006, 3:18 a.m. CST
Is that the show I flipped past one time and saw Saul Williams from SLAM? It just seemed like any other crappy sitcom but maybe I’ll give it a shot. thanks for the tip bud.
Jan. 21, 2006, 3:23 a.m. CST
“half-hour about black people.”
Wow… that’s just wow.
Please keep talking out of your ass.
Jan. 21, 2006, 3:27 a.m. CST
This was a brilliant episode, and everyone should be watching th
And I hope it maybe, just maybe, incites some real discussion about various trends in America. Knocking on Soul Plane and some of the other knocks on BET and stuff in this episode were amazing, and made Spike Lee’s Bamboozled look toothless. (I still like that movie though) I urge anyone who never gave this show a shot to try to watch it. Despite what the comic strip and critics would have you believe, it’s not 24 minutes of Bush bashing and propaganda. Before the 3rd or 4th episode, they had a fan letter from a Republican military vet who said it was his favorite show. Anyone could really watch and enjoy this, no matter what their political views (Well, maybe not neo-nazis). Besides, if you never expose yourself to opposing viewpoints or beliefs, you’ll never learn anything. Discussion and debate are great ways of learning or strengthening your own beliefs. It’s very funny with some great social criticism mixed in. They’ve done episodes with no criticism and just straight comedy that are great too, such as “Guess Ho’s Coming to Dinner” where Grandad starts unknowingly dating a hooker, that features some GREAT jokes.
Jan. 21, 2006, 5 a.m. CST
Shit shit shit!
It’s a gorgeous Saturday morning here, and I’m faced with a dilemma. Should I go outside, or should I read Vern’s review over and over again fifteen times in a row? Decision made: fuck the outside world.
Jan. 21, 2006, 5:04 a.m. CST
Don’t worry Vern, I don’t think anyone really knows what
Actually gets a little annoying sometimes, reading the Coaxial headlines and thinking “I wish I could understand what Herc is saying”. Surely “THE FIRST NEW LOST SINCE NOVEMEMBER!” would suffice? Perhaps it’s just me and my quaint South African ways.
Jan. 21, 2006, 5:34 a.m. CST
Holy Crap! I would never have watched this show…now I will!
by Darth Bono Jr.
Vern…you are the man! Thanks for the review! My dad, for some reason, always emails me BOONDOCKS strips from the newspaper, but I never really thought they were very funny. Now I’m really going to check out this show!!
Jan. 21, 2006, 5:44 a.m. CST
Hope it’s different than the comic strip
The strip is always a wonderful little nugget of tinfoil-hat left-wing nuttery that would make Al Franken and Babs Streisand ashamed, blended with a tasty dose of reverse-racism and bigotry. Oh yes, and it is always, always, always devoid of ANY FUCKING HUMOR. I miss Outland and Calvin & Hobbes.
Jan. 21, 2006, 6:12 a.m. CST
“It takes a certain type of individual to take on the Bush admin
Yes, and that would be self-righteous Bush-hating liberal ninnies who think they are vastly more clever than they really are. (I do wish anti-Bush twits would stop pretending that they’re brave, selfless, enlightened martyrs who dare to stand up to an evil fascistic regime. That’s extended political adolescence.) And liberals wonder why they’re not taken seriously?
Jan. 21, 2006, 6:16 a.m. CST
Look, folks, two things to remember. ONE: It is not really an act of bravery or dissent to criticise George W. Bush; you’re just speaking your mind; it does not make you a hero or particularly all that special. TWO: There is no virtue in being far-out nutjob kooky in your criticisms of Bush; he is not evil, stupid, or deceptive — just mediocre. *** No need to thank me for all this sterling advice. Just do us all a favor and follow it.
Jan. 21, 2006, 6:17 a.m. CST
vern don’t like south park?
why should i care about his opinion?
Jan. 21, 2006, 6:56 a.m. CST
awww, the idiost wing of the republicans are getting their panti
face you dumb sons of bitches, all the people creating funny thoughtful progressive entertainment think you are thick as pigshit. It must hurt to be on the losing side all of a sudden.
Jan. 21, 2006, 7:28 a.m. CST
I’m not sure the strip lends itself to animation.
I’m a fan of the strip and McGruder but there’s something about the art, the voices and just how weirdly quiet the show is that I find it vaguely creepy.
Jan. 21, 2006, 8:19 a.m. CST
Its about damn time I see “The Boondocks” up on the site!!
It is really a great show and funnier than hell. I work graveyard shifts at our casino and I take my lunch break everynight at 3am to see the boondocks every sunday (i cant see it at 11pm on saturdays, the regular time its on). Everybody should watch it!!
Jan. 21, 2006, 8:21 a.m. CST
This show has been on for a couple months now.
Maybe Vern can post his review of the U.S. version of The Office next. I’m sure we’re all anxiously awaiting a review of that show that’s been on for months now as well.
Jan. 21, 2006, 8:35 a.m. CST
The Show is crap
It truly is. I have never a crappier show on TV and this one just fucking takes it all. It is pointless, insipid, and get this…NOT FUNNY! Stay away from the Boondocks. It is a colossal waste of time.
Jan. 21, 2006, 8:36 a.m. CST
jeez nub, way to show up what a fucking retard you are,
Still if that’s how you get your kicks, you go right ahead.
Jan. 21, 2006, 9:46 a.m. CST
Dear HillaryLovesMe …
If there’s one thing that drives me nuts in politically-tinged discussions, it’s the lazy tendency to lump ALL people with some opinion in the same group. It is, in fact, nothing more than a giant Straw Man, i.e. you’re attacking a hypothetical figure that you created rather than address the political susbtance of others. (I’m not singling you out, but as soon as the words “nut-BLANK” or “looney” or “twit” appear, then you know you’re outside the realm of civil discourse.) So, who exactly the fuck are “liberals”? That’s why falskdjf’s like you never get ANY respect … you know, because all falskdjf’s suck and you know it. Damn falskdjf’s … Stop being so falskdjf-y.
Jan. 21, 2006, 9:50 a.m. CST
Thanks Vern, glad to see I’m not alone
That Nightline piece was a joke, especially since interviewer Cynthia McFadden lives in a “Glass House.” She’s going to find herself fodder for an episode next season. Another great episode is the Christmas ep. The bi-racial litlle girl who lives in the neighborhood is having a dream about being a preacher in the Church of Santa and says “it’s time to take the Ho’s out of the rap videos.” “Nowadays people think Ho, Ho, Ho is the Hilton Sisters..standing next to Nichole Ritchie.” Judge Reinhold from “Beverly Hills Cop” voiced Huey’s teacher. When he wanted Huey to direct the Christmas play, Huey warned him he would be fired “for being an irresponsible white person.” At the end of the episode he was fired for just that reason. Other guest voices have included Quincy Jones, MTV’s Sway and Xzibit, Ed Asner, Adam West in the R. Kelly episode playing R. Kelly’s lawyer, as well as Cosby vets Cree Summer and Dawnn Lewis. The show really found it’s voice with the Christmas and Grandad’s girlfriend episodes. I had my doubts seeing the previews but I never miss an episode now. —–later—–m
Jan. 21, 2006, 9:54 a.m. CST
Vern, “I don’t know of any other social satire on TV that co
You must have missed the MTV award show this year.
Jan. 21, 2006, 10:35 a.m. CST
“Return of the King” is one of my favorite half-hours of tv ever
This show kicks ass. And I’m a white conservative.
Jan. 21, 2006, 11:09 a.m. CST
It takes a certain type of individual to take on the Bush admini
Yes, any one of ten thousand Hollywood liberals. Geez, give me a break. It would be a lot more courageous and heroic to question the Hollywood liberal group-think than march in lock step with Al Franken and Alec Baldwin and George Clooney and Barbra Streisand and our buddy Vern.
Jan. 21, 2006, 12:02 p.m. CST
The Boondocks is groundbreaking, brilliant television…
…that just keeps getting better and better – and it’s long overdue for recognition here on AICN. Herc, you’re a big man for posting this, and Vern, this is one of the best pieces I’ve read on AICN in quite awhile. At the very least, “The Return of the King” should be required viewing for every American. This is one of the most important (and damn funny) shows on TV right now.
Jan. 21, 2006, 12:17 p.m. CST
i’m white liberal that depises most liberals but I agree. This show does kick ass. I read and interview with McGruder and he stated that the idea of the boondocks(beyond the respecrful Peanuts homage) was the three sides of the “Angry Black Man”. Huey, Riley, and Grandad are those three sides and to see those three sides all play off of a “known known” like MLK was awesome. Grandad as the generational peer, Huey as the student of history and Riley as the ignorant miscreant. Plus any show that has the line “It’s A Pimp Named Slickback! Like A Tribe Called Quest? You say the whole thing!!!” will always have a special spot in my Tivo’s hard drive. BTW johnnyangel I see what you mean it would at least be nice to see creativity from the Hollywood group-thinkers. I mean Air AMerica blows but if Franken wants to get some folks together to make the Pentagon levitate again I’m there!
Jan. 21, 2006, 12:19 p.m. CST
And a Cheer for HERC! More Boondocks Talkbacks!!
Jan. 21, 2006, 12:31 p.m. CST
About time AICN mentioned this show
I was wondering what was taking so long for it to even get acknowledged. And I like the psuedo Peanuts/calm anime style of the characters. Nothing is more hilarious than someone making an idiotic statement and the other character just giving them a blank stare.
Jan. 21, 2006, 1:27 p.m. CST
10,000 Marauding Hollywood Liberals
I just wanted to clarify for the two people who singled out the sentence about the “certain type of individual” taking on the Bush administration. What you are supposed to do, when there is a sentence, is read the whole sentence. You start at the first letter (usually capitalized) and then continue to the period or the question mark or whatever the punctuation is that will signal that you have made it all the way to the end of the sentence. If you do that you’ll see I was talking about the uphill battle of fighting that fight in a fuckin three panel comic strip in the funnies. I personally would not consider Ziggy and Garfield to be peers with George Clooney and Alec Baldwin, but you may disagree. I know my sentences can be long man but if you’re not gonna take the effort to read it then you probaly shouldn’t criticize it yet. What I would do, read the first half of the sentence, go take a break, then when you have some more energy you come back and read the second half. Then you will know the deal. Still, thanks for not managing to turn this into a big argument about liberals or Bush. I am proud of everyone.
Jan. 21, 2006, 1:44 p.m. CST
I’ll watch tonight.
Jan. 21, 2006, 1:47 p.m. CST
DevilCat, stop trying to stir up trouble.
by Lenny Nero
You’ll only end up crying.
Jan. 21, 2006, 1:53 p.m. CST
I don’t get it Devilcat
I think you are rewriting my review in your head because you’re not talking about anything I wrote. You can call me a turd or whatever, I’m not gonna argue with that. But I never said or thought anything about being brave or taking a risk for reviewing the show. Where did you get that from? I mean it’s true I was embarassed to be writing about a cartoon, but that’s the only bravery involved. And I didn’t say it would be hard for Herc to have a talkback, I just meant it wouldn’t be pretty. I was acknowledging that having a talkback for this particular show would be a magnet for every obnoxious talkbacker who 1. gets up in arms over “LIBERALS” for being alive and/or saying anything 2. does not like black people 3. takes any opportunity to start arguing against or for the Iraq war 4. still thinks rap music is a fad after 25 years or whatever, etc. I think you know that all of these people exist in large numbers (or are all the same guy posting under different accounts) and are good at ruining talkbacks. Although we disagree with each other on politics and think each other are assholes, I think we can agree that talkbacks that turn into angry back and forth political rants are depressing. Right? Now stop talking about me and talk about the show. But if you call it “an anti-republican tv show” my guess is you haven’t seen it and don’t know what it is.
Jan. 21, 2006, 2:10 p.m. CST
devilcat, you haven’t seen the show, read vern’s review
yet you still continue to talkback like you have done at least 2 of those 3 things, are you going a bit loopy or something?
Jan. 21, 2006, 2:26 p.m. CST
by Incomplete Gamer
No offense, “bud”, but if you’re going to write a huge review, why not spell check it? How many times did you spell “a lot” as one word? Too many! :(
Jan. 21, 2006, 2:35 p.m. CST
Uh, since when do hit mean anything…
besides how many people visit the site? I think DevilPuss means advertising revenue. The people who come to this site sometimes click the ads or an Amazon link, and THEN the site makes money in small, less than a dollar increments. Dur.
Jan. 21, 2006, 2:37 p.m. CST
If “hits” and talkbacks generate income…
why aren’t all talkback as long as the Aqua#@$ talkback?
Jan. 21, 2006, 2:40 p.m. CST
okay, last one devilcat
1. I agree with you, I hate republicans too. But like I said in the review the show isn’t really about that. 2. I never pretended to be worried, dude. I just don’t like obnoxious talkbacks. But obviously I was willing to risk it since I submitted the essay. 3. Only thing I know about how many hits this sight gets is that it’s at least ten thousand times as many as mine gets. So it has never really occurred to me to be trying to increase the traffic here. 4. I never pretended to be brave and in fact just two minutes ago pointed out that I never pretended to be brave and you probaly read that post since you just responded to it. 5. Harry is not my boss. Jesus is my boss. 6. What is wrong with this picture bud? I mentioned in the review that because the show has some politics in it the talkbacks would get too political. This rubbed you the wrong way and you wrote a talkback criticizing me for saying that. And now ten minutes later you’re pointing out to me that “if you are going to write about movies or TV shows that are, themselves, political, you have to expect that [the talkbacks will get too political]” WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT I SAID IN THE REVIEW THAT YOU WERE ATTACKING ME FOR IN THE FIRST PLACE. For god’s sake man I stayed up late last night I can’t take this Alice in Wonderland crap right now. Other than those six things though, I agree I guess. thanks for the comments bud.
Jan. 21, 2006, 2:43 p.m. CST
to Incomplete Gamer
Thanks alot for the helpful tips bud I will keep it mind next time. your friend Vern.
Jan. 21, 2006, 2:51 p.m. CST
no problem bud
I just like Jesus, no big deal. You should try to watch the episode tonight if you’re around and you got cable. You seem to like the comic strip and this is alot better if you ask me. thanks devilcat.
Jan. 21, 2006, 2:52 p.m. CST
If everyone has to admit that posting on the talkback isn’t
you have to, also. Sure, the “bases” for selling ads on a website can be how many people visit the site on a daily basis. But the hits themselves do not make any money, so therefore the site doesn’t thrive on hits. It thrives on ad revenue. Hits ARE important to a website, but they do not make any money for the site.
Jan. 21, 2006, 5:38 p.m. CST
you’re all a bunch of ignorant niggers
-Martin Luther King jr.
Jan. 21, 2006, 6:08 p.m. CST
OK I re-read the sentence in question
And I accept your interpretation. It’s pretty cool that you take the trouble to talkback.
Jan. 21, 2006, 6:13 p.m. CST
One of the best shows on TV.
It took me awhile to get into it. It’s not always the funniest show on TV, but the satire is beyond brilliant and ungodly accurate. I didn’t realize that the X-Box Killer episode was a take on the war in Iraq until I watched it the second time. The mere fact that these shows are really rewatchable should be reason enough to get anyone to check it out that hasn’t. It’s a brilliant show. “All the greatest fighters in the world were white. Jack Dempsey, Rocky Marciano, Sly-vester Stallone, and don’t forget Ralph Macchio!”
Jan. 21, 2006, 7:30 p.m. CST
Best animated show on TV right now.
Of course, I loved Duckman too…
Jan. 21, 2006, 7:34 p.m. CST
This crappy show gets a talkback and THE OFFICE doesn’t?
by Elmore Rigby
Oh my goodness, they use the n-word! How shocking, how edgy and groundbreaking!
Jan. 21, 2006, 7:58 p.m. CST
“a magnet for every obnoxious talkbacker who 1. gets up in arms
Oh give me a fucking break already with this one sided HORSESHIT!!! Maybe if you guys constantly posted conservative shit then you’d be able to say for every obnoxious talkbacker who gets up in arms for “CONSERVATIVES” being alive. Fact is, this is a Liberal/Leftist/Socialist site, so of course the people who will be trying to argue back is the Conservatives. Why would a Liberal get angry when all you spew is Leftist nonsense? Talk about a motherfucking straw man! You post Liberal shit then complain when Conservatives try to refute the points made. Come on man, have a little intellectual honesty here. But of course we all know there are no obnoxious Liberal talkbackers. Sidenote, did everyone know it costs like 700,000 bucks just to make one episode of this revisionist shit? If macgruder cared about blacks he’d donate that fucking cash to the poor black neighborhoods. Figures, whitey’s on the moon while I’m sitting in a project. Motherfuckers like macgruder are the real Uncle Toms in our society, shuffling their feet for their white bosses at the networks. I always love when geeky “white” blacks like macgruder try and act all concerned for us blacks and shit, like they care. Liberals don’t give a fuck about helping poor black people, or else they’d actually help them. But then who’d vote for them? We all know that once poor people, whatever color, start making money they lean to the right. And to compare a scumbag like Jesse “I fuck therefore I am” Jackson and Al “The Do” Sharpton to MLK is ridiculous. Now, we all know MLK was a womanizer and cheated on his wife, but at least the guy was honest.
Jan. 21, 2006, 8:07 p.m. CST
Trolling rednecks is easy
AICN is a socialist site.
Damn, that’s the quote of the day.
Jan. 21, 2006, 9:16 p.m. CST
No, Thunderballs, I don’t have an issue with you proclaiming
by Lenny Nero
I’d rather debate than get a diatribe. In the last few weeks, however, you have really been testing my patience, and that’s hard to do. You need to chill and learn some rhetoric. At your current pace, I wouldn’t be surprised if you run into a wall when it comes to the administrators around here.
Jan. 21, 2006, 9:32 p.m. CST
Vern, please give South Park a chance…
by Banky the Hack
If you like The Boondocks, I’m not going to promise that you’ll like South Park after a few episodes, but I think chances are good. I enjoy your pieces for this site and don’t really get why you haven’t meshed with this show in the past? Anyway, give it a whack…
Jan. 21, 2006, 10:10 p.m. CST
Boondocks Santa Episode
That episode and the one about the X-Box Killer was some of the funniest shit in a long time. Riley beating the shit out of a mall Santa and telling him to pay what he owe is priceless. When Santa used the little girl as a shield against Riley’s pellet pistol, I laughed my ass off. His letter to Santa warning him he’s coming for him was even better. That’s a bitch ass move, Santa.
Jan. 21, 2006, 11:23 p.m. CST
Thunderballs = Uncle Ruckus?
If only he recognized the similarities between what he said in his post, and the “Uncle Ruckus” character on “Boondocks.” `Gotta love those self-loathing types who vote with the very people who screw them over. If anybody here is shuffling his feet, Tballs, it’s you. Keep voting for the people who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act and see where it gets you.
Jan. 21, 2006, 11:29 p.m. CST
Boondocks = Bullshit
This show is a waste of fucking time and I can’t believe anyone could view “Return of the King” and think it was anything less than sacrilegious. MLK Jr. calling black people “niggers” and then high-tailing it to Canada??? Every episode shits and pisses all over every topic it deals with and then just before the credits roll, mugs at the camera: “I yost kiiiidding!” Aaron McGruder is a one-trick pony and I’ll be glad when his 15 minutes are up. This show actually makes me think LESS of the daily srip. I’m black, I’m proud and this show is neither.
Jan. 22, 2006, 12:14 a.m. CST
Hey man, this TalkBack’s actually been pretty civil so far
Cool beans. I like the show okay, I wouldn’t say it’s that great. I agreed with a lot of what Vern said but happen to prefer the strip to the cartoon, I think. And I think the smaller vignettes on the TV show — Adam West’s speech about R.Kelly, the rapper bragging about getting shot and then actually getting shot — work better than the sum of its parts. Have not seen “Return of the King” yet, maybe I’ll watch it when [adult swim] loops back tonight. Also I gotta say the “white guy who thinks he’s black” gag is just as lame here as it is anywhere else. I get that casting black guys as voice actors is sort of ironic, but it’s still not really all that funny.
Jan. 22, 2006, 12:21 a.m. CST
because I respect you, Vern, I TiVoed Boondocks.
I watched te MLK episode and it was fucking stupid. I learned my lesson.
Jan. 22, 2006, 3:41 a.m. CST
TEEDADAWG: Thanks for your post, I don’t agree at all but I’m glad someone who actually knows the show will criticize it, and I want to know more about your take on it. I don’t think he needed MLK using the n word either but I wonder what you think about the rest of the episode. The idea of MLK coming back and having to see BET and Soul Plane, the reactions to his pacifist philosophy in today’s war hungry atmosphere, the awkwardness of trying to get his message across in the modern media, etc. I thought these all made pretty deep points about what we as a society like to think we believe in and what we really believe in. I’m sure there are alot of people that praise Dr. King left and right but would call any modern, living person who believes the same things a traitor and a looney. You didn’t like the tv watching scene, or the MTV video awards scene? THUNDERBALLS: Sorry bud, I gave up making you happy a long time ago. I can’t remember ever seeing you in a talkback where you weren’t busting ten veins in your forhead about how much of an idiot the author (usually me) is for believing something or liking some movie. I don’t know of any movies you have ever liked or any people you have ever respected or been friendly or polite to. I bet you have a life outside of talkbacks, but as far as I know you are a horrible, miserable asshole who despises everyone and everything in the entire world. If you take a look at my list that made you so mad I also included obnoxious people who would turn a tv talkback into an argument against the war. But you didn’t notice because you are blind to things you agree with, it’s like a whistle only dogs can here. Also by the way I specifically stated that I was not comparing Sharpton and Jackson to King. As you know. Anyway, see you in the next talkback. You’ll be the crazy angry negative bellligerent arguing guy, is my guess. But who knows, you could surprise me. JOHNNY ANGEL: Thanks bud, sorry I was so sarcastic to you. Now I feel like an asshole too. BANKY: Okay man, I don’t know, but maybe I’ll try. Those guys just rub me the wrong way. But maybe I’ll give it a shot. HYPEENDSHERE: I was waiting for someone to say that, sorry bud.
Jan. 22, 2006, 3:44 a.m. CST
“The Itis” episode is hilarious — ranks right up there with the
by Prof. Pop-Cult
Funniest bit is when Huey sums up the plot of the movie “Soul Food”. That part had me laughing tears. I can’t recall the last time The Simpsons made me laugh like that.
Jan. 22, 2006, 10:09 a.m. CST
Sorry but The Boondocks is not at all funny. And before you say
by Mr. Profit
Seriously I thought it would be hilarious. But it’s not. Sometimes there are funny moments. But they dont come often enough. I find Everybody Hates Chris to be funnier…
Jan. 22, 2006, 10:15 a.m. CST
The Boondocks is the smartest and funniest show on television!
” Santa, you gonna pay me what you owe!”
Jan. 22, 2006, 10:16 a.m. CST
by Mr. Profit
My co-workers told me it was hilarious, that’s why I said above that I thought it would be hilarious.
Jan. 22, 2006, 10:25 a.m. CST
Here is a real rating of the Boondocks
Like one said, it is a very good show. sure, there are some misfire episodes and jokes, but overall, the great stuff outweighs the weak. And also teenadawg, you say you’re black and proud, yet you thought the MLK episode was bullshit? get the fuck outta here. unless you have a clear reason, i simply wont believe that you’re black AND proud. The whole point of the episode was for black people to realize that we fucked up, and we should go back to the days when we were proud of ourselves and wanting to advance in life.
Jan. 22, 2006, 10:55 a.m. CST
You can be Black and Proud and dislike The Boondocks.
by Mr. Profit
I can admit that our elders went through so much shit so that we can have freedom. And what do we do? Make bullshit music and movies and say Nigger freely and act like idiots. BET used to mean Black Entertainment Television, but it’s really “MTV Crunk n B Jams” now. There are so many things upsetting about urban culture. But you know, the MLK satire may have proved a point, but it still wasn’t funny. As with the show in general. It gets it’s points across, but it’s not really funny. You shouldn’t question if someone is proud of their heritage just because they find a silly cartoon unfunny.
Jan. 22, 2006, 11:11 a.m. CST
Mr. Profit, some of the stuff you say is suspect
so if you’re against the whole bastardization of ‘black’ culture as seen in BET, which i am as well, and you see that The Boondocks is trying to point that out, why hate on the show? You act like the show shouldn’t be on air. It is one of the FEW shows out right now that is actually for being positive and having true pride in being black. If you don’t find the show funny, thats a different thing. Its not your taste then, although i’d have to say your sense of humor is pretty suspect. Like i said before, it isn’t always funny, and even if i wanted to be critical of the show, there are moments in the last 10 eps that just made me burst out in laughter. Try to keep an open mind.
Jan. 22, 2006, 11:12 a.m. CST
Givemeabreak with the Liberal bashing crap.
Don’t be so quick to label anti-Bush as liberal. Bush is ignorant, some people just dislike ignorance. Anyway, on to the show…Boondocks! I’ve seen it a couple of times and really enjoyed it. I missed the MLK episode, so I’ll be looking for in in the reruns. But from the description that I understand so far it seems totally relevant. It is unfortunate that accomplishments of great people are marred by their personal short comings. Ok Sharpton needs a new hair do, but it isn’t going to happen. If he were a lawyer he would have a reputation of an ambulance chaser. However he brings attention to plights that few ever want to see. Jesse Jackson received more press for the illegitimate child he fathered than other recent causes. What do you think they would have done to MLK? If Malcolm X were alive he would probably be living in exile in another country because Bush Administration would consider him a terror threat! So would some of brainwashed America! Think about it. The liberties that we can now participate in as a direct result of the civil rights movement have been misdirected. Boondocks does a good job of making that point with humor instead of sermons. My only concern it that, for some viewers they may just see it superficially as a cartoon on not try to uncover the relevance behind every episode.
Jan. 22, 2006, 12:19 p.m. CST
I don’t really get what the big deal is…
…Mr. Profit just said he doesn’t find the show funny, I don’t really think you can prove that he hates his heritage through that statement. Nor do I understand why you’d take his opinion on a cartoon personally enough to want to. But whatever.
Jan. 22, 2006, 12:22 p.m. CST
The “nigger” speech by MLK
was probably one of the most powerful, funny, and eye-opening speeches i’ve seen on tv. I’m dead ass serious.
Jan. 22, 2006, 12:34 p.m. CST
WHERES THE ZONE?!
WHERES THE ZONE?!
Jan. 22, 2006, 12:49 p.m. CST
I shouldn’t have been so pessimistic
This is actually the type of talkback I was hoping for. I don’t think I can really disagree with Mr. Profit because all he’s saying is that it’s not funny. Well yes, it is funny, I know this because it makes me laugh. But you can’t force somebody to like a joke. I’m sure if we asked him what he thought was funny he’d tell us a few things that we’d think were incredibly lame, but that’s the way the laffs go.
Jan. 22, 2006, 1 p.m. CST
i think this is the type of show that has a different set of pri
most comedies want to make you laugh no matter what, and then (if they find the time) they’ll make you feel good, deliver a message, etc. but this one seemed to want to make a point first, at the expense of the comedy. it was similar to how i feel about Arrested Development. their priority is to make you aware that the writers are clever, and then they throw a few jokes in there, and last on their list is making the show accessable to new viewers. anywho, I’ll give Boondocks another shot to see if it was a dud of an episode, or just not for me. the same way i saw Phantom Menace in the theatre twice to see if it was me or the movie that was retarded.
Jan. 22, 2006, 1:12 p.m. CST
“BET is the worst thing I have ever seen” – MLK
It’s funny ’cause it’s true. I don’t hate Republicans. I hate stupid fucking dunderheaded assholes who are demonstrably less intelligent than myself who are propped up by their daddies after they fuck up and destroy businesses and luck into positions of real power and then use that power to enforce their greedy, racist, ignorant viewpoints, thereby shitting on the Constitution in the process. They execute retards in Texas, but apparently they stop before they reach the governing levels. If an intelligent man who could clearly and compellingly express his views, even if they drastically differed from mine, and comported himself like a true head of state and not head of a fraternity were elected I would not be here right now taking cheap potshots and laughing along with the Boondocks.
Jan. 22, 2006, 1:19 p.m. CST
Jan. 22, 2006, 1:50 p.m. CST
Vern: My take on ‘Boondocks’ so far
The R. Kelly episode was funny because it picked a worthy topic and lampooned him in every way warranted. It ALSO took parts of the black community to task for supporting someone so obviously underserving. (“Why do you like R. Kelly?” “‘Cause he GOOD!” made me laugh out loud) And there are other things I’ve laughed at (Uncle Ruckus, A Pimp Named Slickback, for example) And I agree with a lot of the points Aaron McGruder wants to make (the low targets some blacks have set for themselves artistically, culturally and socially, our community’s overemphasis on materialism in the face of poverty, the mainstreaming of pimp and hoe culture, etc.) But far too often, McGruder allows Riley’s representation of the worst in black behavior (“You gon’ pay what you owe,” his OVERUSE of the N-word) to be the dominant voice. Huey broods or comes across as a pretentious twit (what was the Christmas episode really about?) and Grandpa just comes across as a lying crank. (WHY did he have to kill the blind guy??? The boxing license as deus ex machina was a MAJOR copout.) What is ANY of this about? The prison rape episode? The wigger shootout in the grocery store? The gay rapper “revelation” completely undermined every other point McGruder had made with that episode, which I’d actually enjoyed till then. Maybe that’s my point with the whole show. Like Spike Lee, McGruder doesn’t know when to quit. And I wish he would. Not “know when to quit.” Just quit. At least with this cartoon, which is a huge disappointment.
Jan. 22, 2006, 3:09 p.m. CST
I actually agree with alot of what you said, I guess I just think it adds up to alot more than you do. One thing I like that you might not agree with, I like how there’s not a character who represents the “right” or “wrong” point of view every time. I think in general it leans toward Huey and against Riley. But in the Christmas episode, Huey has obviously gone over the top in trying to be outrageous in his Christmas play. And Riley obviously is doing the wrong thing by stalking Santa Claus, but his whole subplot makes a point you don’t often see on Christmas specials about being poor on Christmas. Usually in cartoons something magical will happen and all the little orphans will have the best Christmas ever. To answer only one of your “what is ANY of this about?” questions, the shootout in the convenience store was the Iraq war parallel. Think about how they know where the killer is and then for no reason they go after a different guy who the claim is holding a gun but isn’t. I thought that was good but I actually like the other episodes better that aren’t as clearly “about” one topic. Anyway thanks again for elaborating.
Jan. 22, 2006, 3:30 p.m. CST
“The wigger shootout in the grocery store?”
Jan. 22, 2006, 3:32 p.m. CST
They knew where the killer was, but instead they stopped at the grocery store on the way… to get beverages. Then when they can’t take the drinks for free, they claim that the Saddam look alike has a weapon. They fool everyone else into thinking that he has a weapon, a shootout ensues, and they leave with the drinks. Then they’re hailed as heroes. Um, could it be any more obvious?
Jan. 22, 2006, 7:53 p.m. CST
So my sense of humor is suspect?
by Mr. Profit
Seriously…. That’s actually pretty funny. I have an open mind and have watched the show several times at the urging of a few people I know. But I am just not into it. And I’m not watching it just to find something wrong and get offended. It’s just not funny to me. It’s the same way I sit confused at the fact that people find this mean old man funny on that HBO show. I just gave my opinion on the Boondocks. And even though I really don’t need to justify to anyone how “Cool” my sense of humor is. Just know I love those crazy Bluths, a show about an disfunctional office, some cartoon about the future and robots, a Johnny Quest spoof on Adult Swim, old school episodes about a yellow family, a show about a fat movie critic, a family with a talking baby and dog, and even a show about a comedian who went crazy and into exile. But since I’m mad unhip, I just watch the shows when they are on because I don’t know their names.
Jan. 22, 2006, 7:56 p.m. CST
PS: Go Steelers…..
by Mr. Profit
It’s about fucking time! Even if they lose on Sunday they freaking made it this far.
Jan. 22, 2006, 7:59 p.m. CST
Vern, I’m not angry, I’m disappointed.
As usual, people misunderstand passion for anger, caring for rage. I’m sorry friend, but I will not stand idly by when shitty shows get praise. The reason you may have only seen me be negative is simple, most things on TV and in the cinema are just plain awful, but that does not stop you guys heaping undue praise. So I am not angry, I am disappointed, that film often times does not live up to its potential, that financial interests trump creative ones, and that due to the paucity of good product out there, average creations get unduly praised. Now, if I was angry, I’d be out fighting people, yelling in people’s faces. But I don’t do that, I am quite peaceful actually. So you see, stop mistaking passion for anger or hatred. I love film, it is the only thing that truly inspires me. Films like Leaving Las Vegas, Short Cuts, Thief, Crash(Cronenberg), They Live, The Last Temptation of Christ, Naked, Contempt, Fitzcarraldo, and Russian Ark dazzle me and inspire me. Sorry if my disappointment rankles you. Please try not to take criticism so personally. As Jean Cocteau once said: “What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” Now fuck off.
Jan. 22, 2006, 8:25 p.m. CST
Coolest Fucking Coaxial News Post. Ever.
Herc and Vern, you are both my heroes for this. I laughed so hard at the pot shots you took at Herc, and laughed even harder when Herc put’s up the barely legal.. Oh man. Not only am I watching the show after that, but I’m still laughing my ass off.
Jan. 22, 2006, 8:37 p.m. CST
Fair enough, Thunderballs, but…
by Lenny Nero
…I get disappointed in many things too. I just don’t go out trying to pick fights. Things bother and anger me, but I also know that the best way to deal with them is to do it calmly. You call it passion, but it seems like you are the only one. Look at yourself and realize between the fine line between being passionate and being a curmudgeon. You have a reputation on this site, and not for a good reason. Chill out and start again.
Jan. 22, 2006, 9:20 p.m. CST
I love how Thunderballs spends the entire post talking about how he’s not an angry person and then ends it with “Now fuck off.”
Jan. 22, 2006, 9:43 p.m. CST
You know…we could all be reading a book right now
by Darth TJ Mackey
I look forward to owning the DVD. What a great show. I’m constantly impressed by it. I understand why it doesn’t speak to some people, I guess, but it really does to me (and apparently a few other folks too)
Jan. 23, 2006, 12:26 a.m. CST
Boondocks rule bitches. I’ve been a fan since it started in
by R.C. the “Wise”
Fuck all the haters!
So says the “Wiseman”
Jan. 23, 2006, 12:28 a.m. CST
“Half hour about black people” Hey I am Hercules…FUCK YOU!
by R.C. the “Wise”
Jan. 23, 2006, 12:47 a.m. CST
Seriously Mr. Profit
I wasn’t saying your humor was suspect, I was saying the opposite. If it doesn’t make you laugh that’s a legitimate criticism. Just like I said I don’t like the one where the guy has balls on his chin, you like it. Different people laugh at different things, that’s just the way it is.
Jan. 23, 2006, 12:54 a.m. CST
I guess it was just a big misunderstanding. I thought when you said I was a douchebag who was sucking Romero’s cock in a deal with the devil because I disagreed that Land of the dead was “THE LEAST GORIEST!!!” that it meant you thought I was a douchebag, etc. etc. If I had known it was a metaphor for your disappointment with society things wouldn’t have been so tense. Anyway, we agree on THEY LIVE. thanks bud.
Jan. 23, 2006, 5:32 a.m. CST
Vern, it wasn’t directed to you. My post was for Mr. Sir Bia
by Mr. Profit
I got no beef with you Vern, and never have.
Jan. 23, 2006, 6:34 a.m. CST
‘I don’t speak Herc’
Jan. 23, 2006, 6:37 a.m. CST
Even though you never said that
But you did, man. you fucking did. I gotta lay off this place!
Jan. 23, 2006, 7:52 a.m. CST
Someone let me know when Caesar shows up
He’s my favorite character from the strip, and is closest to being the only normal one. You need someone like him to make the other characters individual instead of just antagonistic (not in the fighting each other sense, in the individial personality sense)
Jan. 23, 2006, 9:03 a.m. CST
Finally Some Boondocks Love
Although I think the strip itself has lost some of the creativity that it once had (storylines, ect., the cartoon is in full swing and looking great…I believe that it is important for people to watch this show for a fresh perspective on one man’s point-of-view about the world through his eyes…BTW Thunderballs is just a little bit of a pundit against whatever isn’t “right”..So go fuck yourself too there TB…he’s such a tough guy behind keyboards,but aren’t most of the 82nd Chairborne’s?
Jan. 23, 2006, 11:12 a.m. CST
“nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance a
this show has heart, and that can’t be said for many things on tv. there will always be those who spit venom at it and claim that it’s retaliation, but i disagree. this show is a blues song, bittersweet and longing for understanding between us all. this show casts many characters in bad light at times, but they are situations real people create for themselves every day. people are ignorant, greedy, spiteful, and downright nasty to each other, but they’re still people. this show loves people, but hates the cages we make for ourselves and each other. cages of role, cages of ideology, cages of fear. these cages enslave us all and keep us from moving toward the betterment of the human race. we relate to each other as consumers, not people. if you choose the same entertainment i do, you must be right. if you wear different clothes than i do, so you must be a bad person. if you have a different color of skin or accent, you can’t be trusted. none of this speaks to our minds or our consciences. these are the lessons we perpetutate with each generation. these are the walls Dr. Martin Luther King worked so hard to break down, not at lunch counters, not in schools, or the congress, but in our minds. if you don’t like the show, by all means, go right ahead, but to fail to recognize the depth and breadth of its statements is a mistake. to thunderballs – you complained that macgruder should donate his 700 grand per episode to the inner city people in need. do you really think that’s his money? why isn’t oprah or bob johnson dropping the millions they could swim in to revitalize every inner city in the country? bob and his wife each bought pro basketball teams after their divorce, what does that say? i’m not saying aaron doesn’t get paid, but he doesn’t get to call the shots yet, he doesn’t even have a full season under his belt. besides, since when does money change minds for the better? people need to change their attitudes and preconceptions, and money can’t do that. reginald hudlin, now head of BET, was the producer of the show when they tried to put it together for FOX. did he take the show with him? no, because BET doesn’t want to hold that mirror up to itself. every time the “mu da butt cheekz” video comes on granddad’s tv, i have to laugh, but what it says makes me sad. The Boondocks is trying to open up viewpoints, and aaron found a home where he can do that while pulling the fewest punches possible and not be afraid to try to be laugh out loud funny. Sometimes you hit sometimes you miss, but every comedy endeavor is like that. did you see how the end of the MLK episode went? yes, he called a lot of people niggers, but if you listen to what he was saying, it wasn’t about skin color. there are niggers in every shade in every walk of life, and until we all seek to better ourselves and our world , Dr. King’s dream will remain just that. Sometimes you have to wake up to realize a dream.
Jan. 23, 2006, 1:20 p.m. CST
I worship at the altar of Vern…
… but I am going to have to disagree with you here, bud. Although I have agreed with nearly every review you have ever posted, both here and on your site, I feel that Boondocks is a confused and self-conscious show that isn’t sure what it wants to be. Is it an “edgy” show that raises important social and political questions or is it a comedy? In trying to be both, it succeeds in being neither. The message is usually obvious (and not nearly as edgy as it wants to be) and the humor is — well — also pretty obvious. Once in a while I smile, but I have yet to laugh out loud. And on a personal note, the faux-anime style irks me, but I can’t really raise that as an objective criticism. But it still bugs me so there. I haven’t seen the MLK episode so maybe I will give it a try again.***On a side note, is anyone else disappointed with much of the current Adult Swim lineup? It almost seems like they spent so much on the lavish animation in Boondocks that they had no money left to buy decent shows. And so we end up with Squidbillies, 12 oz Mouse, Tom Goes to the Mayor and Perfect Hair Forever, all of which fall into the same “self-conscious” category with Boondocks, if in different ways. Robot Chicken is OK. And some eps of Stroker and Hoop were good but the only show that keeps me coming back is Aqua Teen and even that has started to degrade into self-parody. Adult Swim, we hardly knew ye.
Jan. 23, 2006, 3:51 p.m. CST
I know this is creepy as hell, but I love watching that show, if only to watch four hot women on TV. Usually the sound is off…
Boondocks TV show? Yeah, ok, I’ll give it a shot, I am just biased on the stupid daily strips which are not funny. I guess it’s because every character looks angry. Hey Double-A-ron, make them smile once in a while. Does every strip have to have an edge of hostility?
Jan. 23, 2006, 6:47 p.m. CST
12 Oz. Mouse
Is the best show they’ve ever aired… but it’s also the least accessible. I hated it the first few times I watched it, then I forgot to cancel my season pass on Tivo. I watched an episode stoned and I was in awe. I finally got it. It’s an insane mix of David Lynchesque surreal bullshit and an off-the-wall (even for Adult Swim) sense of humor. Highly recomended.
Jan. 23, 2006, 8 p.m. CST
I can’t believe people remember shit.
You guys are good, remembering my old posts and shit. To be perfectly honest, I have no fucking clue who most of you are, and have no clue what you’ve been posting about. I didn’t even remember it was you with the Land of the Dead shit Vern, which is why I say do not take those insults personally. I know, easy for me to say, but I am not attacking you the person, I am attacking you the reviewer. Big difference. And yes, THEY LIVE fucking rules, even if it is an allegory about the evils of Reaganism.
Jan. 23, 2006, 10:03 p.m. CST
don’t worry thunderballs
I had to look it up to remember what you said. I just knew that was the first time I remembered you from. What you could learn from this is that if you are enough of a belligerent asshole, people will remember you. So in a way you are a superstar. Way to go! But anyway I’ll stop talking shit. How bout this. You are so right about THEY LIVE and I will give you one from my side. DIRTY HARRY fucking rules even if it is a phoney argument for cops to be allowed to execute people without accountability. Also I would like to thank everybody for the thoughtful discussion of the boondocks. I can’t remember seeing any talkbacker write that passionately about the issues raised by a tv show. Both on the positive side and the negative side. way to go friends.
Jan. 24, 2006, 12:21 a.m. CST
How dare somebody above me insult Tom Goes to the Mayor and Perf
by Lenny Nero
I also dig 12 Oz. Mouse, but as someone mentioned above, in a purely “I’m stoned” way.
Jan. 24, 2006, 7:39 a.m. CST
Uh, I guess that would be me, Lenny
I guess we are just going to have to agree to disagree. Or I am going to have to get stoned. Either way, I feel that Tom Goes to the Mayor was funny for one or two episodes and then just kept re-treading the same basic plotline over and over. And Perfect Hair reminds me of stories I wrote in high school. Hell, anyone can write a non-sequitur: a talking hot dog is not clever in and of itself and the show — to me anyway — seems more interested in being whacked out than being entertaining or funny. Plus, there is my unreasoning hatred for shows that try to look like anime (see my comments on Boondocks above), but again, that is hardly a fair criticism to level. *Shrugs* To each his own, I guess.
Jan. 24, 2006, 6:53 p.m. CST
I was just fucking around, dandosama, but I do actually quite li
by Lenny Nero
Although I was going to take a little bit of offense to the “hatred for shows that try to look like anime” (as opposed to what, any other way you can draw an animated show?) but you admit the lack of fairness the critique has. And in “PHF,” I don’t laugh as much at, say, the hot dog or Catman, but Uncle Grandfather and Coiffio, who are not non-sequitors, but have a delivery and thought process that just makes me giggle. Nothing special.
Jan. 24, 2006, 7:14 p.m. CST
I’m glad you had to look it up Vern
I’d hate to think you keep such trivial things as my musings in your brain.
Jan. 25, 2006, 4:05 p.m. CST
The “Return of the King” was NOT bullshit for what it TRIED to do, it’s bullshit for how it did tit. TRhere are NO circumstances where Martin Luther King would have addressed a group of blacks by beginning “will y’all niggers shut the hell up!” That’s not satire, that’s not irony, that’s not artistic license. That’s just DUMB. And it’s NOT FUNNY. And I LIVE in Montgomery, Alabama, now, dude, and I can tell you the folks here can be a lot of things but FRIGHTENED Step N Fetchits (like they were portrayed in the Rosa Parks “tribute”) AINT one of them. These folks are black, proud and quick to somebody’s ass!