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Bad News Bears (2005)

July 22, 2005

I have a confession to make: I don’t think I’ve ever seen the original BAD NEWS BEARS movies in full. Parts, maybe. I know people love the first one. I don’t remember it. So this review comes from the rare perspective of a person who saw Richard Linklater’s remake in theaters and is returning to it after 20 years of still not seeing the original to find out why nobody seemed to think this stacked up to it. Ignorance is bliss!

SUMMER 2005For me the main movie to compare it to is BAD SANTA, which came from the same screenwriters, Glenn Ficarra & John Requa (CATS & DOGS). Obviously it’s not as good, but it’s the second best movie at presenting Billy Bob Thornton as an alcoholic asshole in a way that is somehow really funny and ultimately sweet in a way that doesn’t seem too phony because the guy is still an asshole, he just made a small gesture that shows he’s trying. This is a PG-13 family-friendly-ish sports movie, so the change is a little bigger than just wanting to give a stuffed elephant to a child after getting shot by the police, but it still maintains his acerbicness to pretty uncomfortable levels until the last couple innings of the big game.

Thornton’s version of Morris Buttermaker is a loser has-been who works as an exterminator and lives in a trailer, but he’s pretty good looking in his way and dates many strippers. He once pitched 2/3 of an inning for the Mariners (kicked out because “I punched an ump, really just a bitch slap, how was I supposed to know he was a bleeder?”) so rich lady Liz Whitewood (Marcia Gay Harden, SPACE COWBOYS) recruits him to coach a little league team she filed an injunction to create just because her son Toby (Ridge Canipe, young Johnny Cash from WALK THE LINE) was rejected from the other teams. The Bears are literally all the last kids picked. It’s a good set up taken from the original that in the aughts played as a jab at overbearing parents of the era. Harden plays the character as a pretty ridiculous person, but well-meaning, and her kid seems sweet so you want him to benefit from her possibly misguided efforts.

The most dominant personalities on the team are Tanner Boyle (Timmy Deters, DADDY DAY CARE) and Mike Engelberg (Brandon Craggs, FEVER PITCH remake), two foul mouthed little shit talkers who are always getting in fights with everybody, especially each other, despite a significant size difference. Boyle is a little guy with long blond hair, the most ‘70s thing about the movie, but we know it’s 2005 because of the diet that Engelberg is on. I don’t like that everybody keeps making fat jokes about him, but I do like that early on when Buttermaker notices him drop a Ziploc bag full of bacon he explains that he’s on Atkins and he doesn’t say it like “oh woe is me” but more like “fuck you for asking such a stupid question.”


That’s part of the movie’s approach that was retro at the time, and would definitely bother some people now – everybody is a little asshole so they say horrible shit to each other (Boyle in particular uses a variety of slurs) but the movie trusts us to know why that’s wrong and why it’s still nice that these little shits become friends and learn to feel better about themselves. Like GRAN TORINO for kids. I suppose it helps that there’s not really racial animosity, just ignorance on Buttermaker’s part that luckily goes over the kids’ heads. I don’t think Ahmad (Kenneth ‘K.C.’ Harris) knows what’s going on when Buttermaker tries to relate to connect with him by saying “Yo bro, what up,” or when he can’t believe he’s wearing #25 for Marc McGwire.

“But he’s a white.”

“Yes, he’s from Claremont. He’s my favorite player.”

Another example is Matthew Hooper (Troy Gentile, who later played young Jack Black in NACHO LIBRE and TENACIOUS D IN THE PICK OF DESTINY), who joins the team but mostly stays in the dugout because he’s in a wheelchair. It will rub many people the wrong way (and it’s too bad they didn’t cast a kid who actually uses a wheelchair) but I can get on board with the movie’s refusal to tip toe around him, believing it’s a sign of respect to joke about him in confidence that we accept him as one of the Bears and admire him for not giving a fuck.

The kids really can’t play, but (as in the original, I believe) Buttermaker gives them a chance by recruiting two good players: an ex-girlfriend’s daughter Amanda (Sammi Kane Kraft) and dirt bike riding hellraiser Kelly (Jeffrey Davies). Amanda is trying to be more feminine as she grows up and Kelly is too much of a rebel to join a team, but of course they come through. I think Buttermaker’s relationship with Amanda is nice – he’s like her estranged father but they’re not related at all, he really has no obligation to her, so it’s meaningful that he does care about her and become her friend.

Also I would like to note that Amanda finds Kelly at a skate park, so we can add him to the Summer 2005 Shredders list along with all the LORDS OF DOGTOWN, Lindsay Lohan’s character in HERBIE FULLY LOADED and Mouse from LAND OF THE DEAD. Also there’s a good dumb joke that Buttermaker follows Amanda to see “a skate punk band” called the Blood Farts. When the pit starts he thinks he’s in a fight and then he yells “Put me down!” as he gets body passed. (I believe Jiminy Glick also got body passed this summer.)

I suppose it’s the same joke over and over, but I enjoy watching Buttermaker be Buttermaker. He’s introduced at his day job, casually following a swarm of rats out of a perfect suburban basement while drinking a beer, and telling the pearl-necklace wearing home owner that he’s done for the day but she can make a followup appointment. The next time we see him he’s at the little league field adding whisky to his non-alcoholic beer. He brings the kids to Hooters after the games, smokes cigarillos and drinks beer while hitting the ball to the kids during practices. He doesn’t make much effort to be accepted by other coaches and parents.

Greg Kinnear (MYSTERY MEN) is perfect casting for the villain, little-league-Yankees coach Ray Bullock, who during the day is “over at Chevy Valley Subaru.” He wears the exact right yellow-tinted glasses for his character and his team has more professional looking uniforms with turtlenecks. Through the cinematic power of the slobs vs. snobs archetype we can hate him more than Buttermaker even when they’re being terrible in the exact same ways. With Ray we think “fuck that guy” and with Buttermaker we think “oh, Buttermaker, don’t do that!” And Buttermaker earns his status as the good guy (or not as bad guy) when he realizes they’re both coaching in the same competitive way and decides to switch it up and let all the kids play even if it will make them lose.

I’ve mentioned somewhere before that I played basketball and soccer as a kid, but I was always maybe the second worst kid on a really good team. I wouldn’t say watching this was triggering (I’d never hear the end of it from Buttermaker) but it hits me somewhere deep in my stomach when I see some kid under pressure to make a play he’s probly not gonna make and then, yep, not making it. On the other hand there’s a part where timid Timmy Lupus (Tyler Patrick Jones, MINORITY REPORT) gets his first hit and hears his name chanted by the strippers from team sponsor Bo Peep’s Gentlemen’s Club who come to all the games. Judging by the way he smiles afterward I don’t think he has the stirrings yet, but it still felt really good to have a bunch of adult women, especially those ones, celebrating him.


I remember a coach of a rival soccer team who was infamous for yelling at refs and his own players and almost getting into fights. I don’t think I would find him amusing as an adult, although I kind of did then. I think he did it way more than Buttermaker and in a more threatening way so I actually didn’t think of him once while watching this. I would have to speculate that he died young and without ever improving himself. Buttermaker at least makes an attempt.

BAD NEWS BEARS got mediocre to bad reviews at the time, did not make back its budget in theaters, has not as far as I’ve noticed gained any respect since. Pretty much anybody I’ve talked to hasn’t seen it or seems bothered by the very idea of its existence. I can see why they’d find it pointless. It’s a remake, not a BATMAN BEGINS style reinvention – it reuses the idea of scoring it to music from Bizet’s Carmen, most of the characters are the same, they even got artist Phil Roberts to imitate the Jack Davis caricature style of the original poster (as he’d done for DETROIT ROCK CITY). But personally I think whatever excuse you need to do an underdog sports movie as BAD SANTA meets SCHOOL OF ROCK is worth doing. I support it. I enjoyed this at the time and I enjoyed it now.

I mean I wasn’t in the market for a kids sports movie (or coaching movie) but I just happen to really like seeing Thornton play a comical asshole, same way I enjoy seeing Tom Hardy do an accent. It’s always gonna have power over me, especially when he’s hanging out with kids and very slowly coming around to being less of an asshole. It worked with poor oblivious Thurman Merman in BAD SANTA and here it works with a whole squad of them, many very capable of giving it right back, so it’s not too much when Buttermaker tells Engelberg, “I got half a mind to find your old man and kick him in the nuts so hard he can never foul the earth with another little shit like you.”

Is it contradictory that I hate watching the loser assholes in WEDDING CRASHERS but love watching the one in this? I don’t think so because I feel the joke of the crashers is that they’re violating the rules of society but everybody is charmed by them so they’re getting away with it and don’t you kinda wish you could do that too? But the joke of Buttermaker is that he’s completely out of line and everyone kind of looks on in horror but doesn’t know what to say and no, you wouldn’t want to be that guy. Also the unlikely repaired relationship at the end is a little more earned, I think. He’s been a jerk and is trying to be nicer, he didn’t fall in love under a false identity and now ask his victim to break off her engagement to be with him.

I’d be surprised to find any nostalgia for this one – there were definitely far fewer kids who saw it than CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY. But I remember there were a couple of them in attendance when I saw it and they were delightedly repeating the line “See ya next year, bitches!” on the way out, so it felt like a success to me.

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26 Responses to “Bad News Bears (2005)”

  1. There are three kinds of comedic assholes:

    – The ones that are supposed to be charming and funny and supposed to make you think “Man, I wish I was like that guy!”, but are more obnoxious assholes who you really want to see get their comeuppance, although unfortunately the movie disagrees with you and gives them a happy ending with only just enough redemption to say “Hey, they learned something-ish!”

    – The ones that are so comically out of line that you can’t help but laugh at their behaviour, which is also possible because the movie or TV show agrees that they are assholes

    – The assholes who you instantly recognize as not that bad, so even if they keep being assholes, they might soften up and grow a heart

  2. I’m surprised you’ve never seen the original, Vern. It’s got the same writer as THE THING! It’s fantastic. (I’ve never seen this one.)

  3. This was… fine. Unnecessary, but fine.

    The original is a stone classic, and serves as an excellent culmination of what Ritchie was working towards throughout the decade (using competition tales to craft stealthily political/existential/etc movies)

  4. I always feel a bit cheap commenting in a reaction to a film I’ve never seen, but my love of the original (and especially Walter Matthau) forcibly prevent me from watching this. And I don’t have any real disagreement with remakes/reimagining/remodelling etc. But it just seems like it would be a completely hollow experience to me – the remake. We watched the original on videotape incessantly, it was such a berserk, crude little joy of a movie.

    The original might be the 3rd best baseball movie ever – 1 – Bull Durham 2 – League of Their Own – 3 – Bad News Bears – 4 – Eight Men Out – 5 – The Natural

    And the original really, really, really gets right the insane aspect of parents and the burden/expectations/demands they place on young kids in sports at times. Around the time I was 10, and playing baseball that summer, one of our top pitchers stopped playing suddenly. Found out later that summer that he had developed a stress ulcer, his dad was such a tyrant, driving the kid. I only played organized team sports for a couple of years more before dropping out (not because of parental issues, my folks were great about not placing demands on playing) because I was sick of being around other kids deranged parents – I remember playing hockey and a friends mom was in the stands and she could be heard through the entire arena yelling HIT HIM HIT HIM, KILL HIM KILL HIM, at her son and teammates on the ice regarding another teams player. We were 11. I’ve never, ever been involved in team sports since then, even as an adult, I came to hate it so much. In my 30s I dated a woman with an 8 year old who played soccer, I went to just one weekend tournament with them, and it was again crazy the way so many parents were acting and behaving. I just couldn’t see anything but misery in putting kids through this stuff.

    I guess what the original movie gets incorrect in relation to reality is that there is very little comedic in the real life asshole parents involved with sports.

    Good review as usual Vern, gripes I might have to keep my eyes open and catch the remake when it pops up on cable sometime (I do love almost all of Linklater’s films including School of Rock.)

  5. he yells “Put me down!” as he gets body passed

    Maybe this is a regional thing (though I’m from Oregon and I swear Vern is from Seattle) but I always heard this as “crowd surfing.” Maybe it isn’t crowd surfing if you’re not a willing participant? Curious to hear what people call this activity where an audience member (or a band member) is lifted by the crowd and moved from person to person.

  6. This did get a reasonably high profile release in the UK, but it went nowhere, as you might expect from a country that doesn’t play baseball. I thought the original was obscure here and that I only heard of it because I spent so much time in the first half of the 00s reading what Americans thought about films; the second half of that is certainly true but the first seems to be debatable. It seems the first 3 films were all released theatricality here and played on BBC every so often over a span of 25 years and at least the first was released on a UK VHS, that said I’ve never heard any allusions to them in my own life. The market here had changed enough by the late 80s that I think BULL DURHAM and MAJOR LEAGUE are much better known, not to mention FIELD OF DREAMS.

  7. Hammer Time – we also use (or used?) crowd surfing but body pass worked better as something done to him.

  8. grimgrinningchrist

    July 22nd, 2025 at 7:30 am

    I haven’t seen his since it first hit disc. As a huge fan of the original, I didn’t like it… mainly because I thought the kids that played Amanda and Kelly and Tanner were total 00s movie kids and really bland. And if you don’t have those three kids AND Buttermaker right (or comparable counterparts), you don’t have a movie. I think Thornton and Linklater were both perfect for Buttermaker and the movie as a whole in that timeframe. I might give it another go based on this though. I think it is on Tubi or one of the other free streamers now.
    Vern, You really should do yourself a favor and see the original. WAY better kids all around (not just Haley and O’Neal) and Matthau crushes Buttermaker even better than Thornton. It is also an interesting contrast to see how far they went as a PG movie in the 70s vs a PG-13 movie in the 00s.

    Also, in a newspaper review/article of a Pearl Jam concert that happened locally here in 93 or 94 (it was kinda big news nationally too as it was a benefit concert after a local abortion clinic had been invaded and a doctor killed… it was them and L7 and Fishbone… and yes, of course I was there… it is also when the whole town found out that Mike McReady was actually from here- here being Pensacola), the writer referred to crowdsurfing (and this became a meme here in “the scene”… just verbally since obviously this was well before actual memes…) as “a riotous, raucous, rowdy round of pass the dude”.

  9. I thought the original was obscure here and that I only heard of it because I spent so much time in the first half of the 00s reading what Americans thought about films; the second half of that is certainly true but the first seems to be debatable

    It was known enough to get Matthau nominated for a BAFTA…

  10. I have no idea if I ever saw the original, but I remember watching the TV show adaptation with Jack Warden in the Matthau role as a kid. But I don’t remember much more about it. I must have been 4 or 5 back then. In retrospect it makes me wonder what I thought about the concept of Baseball, considering that this sport was pretty unknown back then and still hasn’t caught up here. We have an actual German American Football league and some smaller networks even broadcast NFL games including the superbowl, but I have never heard of Germans playing Baseball. Which might be in general the reason why Baseball movies aren’t successful here.

  11. Like others here I have not seen this remake, nor have I seen the Jack Warden series as far as I recall. I saw one of the movies in the theater (no idea which one) as a kid, and I think I already knew about the Bad News Bears going in, which suggests I must have seen at least one of the previous movies on TV by that point.

    But like Miguel I was very put off by the abusive and bullying aspect of youth sports, so much so that by my teenage years I had developed a permanent hatred of sports and an inability to even consider the possibility of athletes as heroes. I instead gravitated to the arts which was where the decent, thoughtful, empathetic people seemed to be.

    However, it recently occurred to me to wonder if in the professional realm it might be the other way round. When it comes to professionals who have behaved badly enough to destroy their career and reputation, in the entire history of sports I can only think of O.J. Simpson, Tonya Harding, Vic whatsisname who had the dogfighting ring or whatever it was, Pete Rose for gambling (though it sounds like people might have lightened up about that last one), and the so-called Chicago Black Sox from a century ago. Whereas in the realm of arts and entertainment I can name that many disgraced black sheep just from the last few years, even without counting the people whose only crime was a couple tweets people didn’t like.

    I’m now curious why that might be. Does success in pro sports demand a degree of self-discipline that weeds out more of the troublemakers? (The few times I do hear about a horrible rape or abuse in sports, it’s at the high school or college level, not the big leagues.) Does the more macho culture of sports tolerate (or hush up) behaviors and attitudes that would be condemned by the more liberal/progressive standard that art and entertainment are held to? Or does pro sports have just as many public scandals and I simply don’t hear about them because I don’t follow sports?

    Sorry if that’s a heavy question in a thread about a kids’ sports movie. I don’t watch many sports movies. I’ve probably watched more movies in which a baseball bat gets used as a weapon.

  12. Dude, football has at least two actual serial killers. The domestic and sexual abuse in that sport is endemic. The reason you don’t know more examples is because you don’t follow sports (and neither do I, or I’d have more evidence to back this up), not because athletes are saints. Also, most athletes do not rise to the level of celebrity at which their malfeasances become national news. There’s no reason to believe there is any less bad behavior in the sports field than in any other industry. Money and fame corrupt, period. Athletes aren’t immune.

  13. As someone who grew up in the ’80s, and whose ‘home team’ (as they say in the song) was the New York Metropolitans, I can assure you that troublemakers were not weeded.

    Put it this way, when the team went on the road, if only three members of the roster or coaching staff needed to be bailed out of jail, that was considered an ‘uneventful’ road trip.

  14. I just assume that there is so much money getting made in professional sports, that you can get away with lots of horrible shit. But every once in a while the team’s fixer won’t make it in time or it turned out that not protecting their Quarterback and just buying a new one is more cost-efficient than paying another few million bucks to his latest victim, so that’s when you actually hear about what he did.

  15. I used to follow football casually. There was a time where I even went out to bars to watch The Browns every other week during the season. (I’m from Cleveland, but I haven’t lived in Ohio for about fifteen years). But the whole issue with Deshaun Watson absolutely broke my interest in The Browns and football. Here was a player who was, and the very least, exposing himself to women and clearly acting inappropriately. And he got a sweetheart deal as a QB from the Browns. They decided to completely ignore all these allegations with the hopes that after decades, we might finally get a good QB. What’s sad is that I think the fans would have looked the other way if he didn’t completely suck.

    So, I think we don’t hear as much about professional players behaving inappropriately because there’s much greater tolerance for it. Obviously, there are players who seem like standup guys who are incredibly disciplined. But as another example, take a look at Kobe Bryant. After the settlement, he was immediately back in good graces.

    As far as BNB (2005), I remember enjoying it but also wondering what the point was. I liked the original movie, which I went out of my way to see before the new one came out. (I was on a big Linklater kick at the time). And as others have mentioned, the 70s BNB could get away with a lot more. It seems so much more of its time in interesting ways.

  16. I hesitate to say that sports/athletes either have more or less of a problem than society in general when it comes to violence/crime/hate. Certainly it is magnified at times given the participants prominence. Sports/athletes are definitely, very definitely no less implicated. At time of writing, Canada is awaiting the results of a gang rape trail involving 5 hockey players, including some who played at the top level NHL. And the culture of privilege, secrecy and awfulness that exists within ‘children’s hockey in Canada is endemic and acknowledged by everyone up here (although precious little is ultimately being done to fix that and protect children.)

    Although I gave up on participating in team sports, I still followed some teams and team sports, but I also grew bored with most of it in my early 20’s. ‘My’ ball team, the Toronto Blue Jays were the dominate, top team for about a decade, won it all twice, and then threw in the towel, cut costs/players etc., and became a joke. Why waste my time watching garbage night after night. The only team sport from my youth that I continue to watch is NFL football, but I do continually battle my conscience regarding both the number of awful players in the league and the truly at times blood thirsty nature of the sport. It seems like someone will actually be killed live on TV during a game, and the effects of concussion are so bad if I had ever had kids I would never let them play the sport. My interest hangs by a thread at times.

    I did continue with athletics, but I followed ‘individual’ sports – I got into marathon running, cycling, skiing and did even more hiking, camping, kayaking etc. I love watching Track & Field, Olympics – winter & summer.

    It’s interesting that I think the greatest, most significant individual of the 20th century was Muhammad Ali, who like the Beatles can be defined by there being a time before him, and after him. And of course ‘individual’ sport game us the most recent really scummy bastard of an athlete – Lance Armstrong from cycling. AND even the evil, ultimately worthless bastard has been pretty successful at rebranding himself a ‘outsider’ and ‘truth teller’ and is hanging to sleaze his way back into some version of mainstream relevance.

    The other thing that is really assuring the continued, unrivalled dominance and survival of big time sports is the absolute reliance on legalized gambling for it. Regardless of the billions and billions of dollars being made from sports, the billions and billions and billions and billions and billions of dollars being ‘made’ by sports gambling will guarantee that.

    I always love how the movie commentary threads can swing into other areas of respectful discussion around here. Good on all the regular posters.

  17. Although I gave up on participating in team sports, I still followed some teams and team sports, but I also grew bored with most of it in my early 20’s. ‘My’ ball team, the Toronto Blue Jays were the dominate, top team for about a decade, won it all twice, and then threw in the towel, cut costs/players etc., and became a joke

    I know the period of which you speak, but that period ended — I dunno — awhile ago. Jays currently lead the division, and are a game out of tying for the best record in the AL (and have been competitive for at least the past five seasons).

    I know this has nothing to do with what you’re talking about, but if you drift from the sport that’s literally killing their players, and is more than likely fixed, now may be a good time to do it. Besides, Rogers Centre is REALLY nice (unlike the Skydome). If I lived in Toronto, I’d take full advantage (and unlike most retractable roof parks, they actually open the roof when it’s nice out, sometimes between innings)

  18. I can second what jojo is saying. I’m a big basketball and baseball fan, and while I don’t live in Toronto anymore I still visit my sister there every summer and always do my very best to catch a Jays game. Right this very moment is the best time to be a Jays fan since 2015. And while they have had their disappointments in recent years (they haven’t won a postseason game *since* 2015) it’s not been because of cost cutting, they have been a top payroll team for a while and they just renovated their stadium.

    Also, as a big baseball and basketball fan, I can also echo what Majestyk said re: Curt’s point. Curt, you nailed it at the end of your post there. There are lots of scandals, lots of misbehaviour, you just don’t hear about them because you don’t follow sports.

  19. Re: sports

    Yeah, to echo what everyone has said here, professional sports has its share of monsters, and they’re often revealed in spectacular detail. I subscribe to a Substack that tells weekly tales of the monstrous acts of certain baseball players, some All-Stars, some fringe dudes, and it’s always surprising to me that I’ve forgotten about some of the more upsetting tales — and that’s just baseball.

    I thought there was an odious culture around the NFL for a few years back, but the DeShaun Watson thing was beyond contempt. It wasn’t that he basically skated for dozens of sexual assault allegations, but that, the way the saga played out (trade, new contract) it was almost as if he was rewarded for it. I just can’t do the NFL anymore.

    But the way my interest has evolved in sports, I realize that I still enjoy baseball and basketball, I still enjoy the players and the rivalries and such. But if you really look into it, every team owner is kind of a supervillain. Most of them give to fucked-up causes, many are outspoken to a distressing point (NFL owners specifically sound like they’re from the Antebellum era). And you can tell many are dismissive or even adversarial towards many of their players, not to mention spiteful towards the fans. A couple of months ago, Hulu had that “Clipped” miniseries about the Donald Sterling saga when he owned the Clippers (Ed O’Neill is really great and disgusting as Sterling) and it correctly depicts Sterling as a dirtbag, but the attitude he expressed in that show is not terribly different than, say, the average NFL owner.

  20. Several years ago I was talking football with a coworker and said that I hated the Steelers. He asked why and I said, Rothlesburger. He said, yeah, a lot of women feel that way. My question was why is it just women? He didn’t answer.

  21. Thanks everyone. When I posed my earlier question(s) it was in the hopes of finally losing the chip on my shoulder that I’ve had against sports my whole life. Not sure the responses fully met that goal but I appreciate the input.

    Children’s athletics, as celebrated in the BAD NEWS BEARS movies, should ideally be a heartwarming and inspirational topic about effort and teamwork and fair play. But to some of us, it is the environment where we first learned that the powerful and popular and charismatic can do whatever they want to whoever they want, and the rest of us just have to take it or else *we’re* the problem.

    I’ve learned to keep such thoughts to myself around my immediate relatives (male and female, and generally liberal) who are passionate sports fans, including one former sports writer. One sports-loving female relative has told me that I shouldn’t judge athletes as a whole by my memories of the behavior of children.

    So my opinion of sports culture has nowhere to go but up, and I guess there’s a risk of that happening as I get frustrated by the culture of negativity that so often seems to surround pop culture.

    At least from a distance, sports fandom seems like a world where you are allowed to like things and care about things. When it’s time for the Super Bowl or the World Series, I don’t hear much of the “you know it doesn’t really matter, right? F*** those spoiled millionaires” rhetoric that kicks in when one wants to watch the Oscars (or Emmys, Tonys etc). If a player becomes successful enough to become famous and be put on a Wheaties box or whatever, that’s a sign that they have excelled in their chosen field and achieved their dreams, not that they are sellouts who we should criticize and turn our back on.

    It is not uncommon for those who write about cinema to be openly anti-Hollywood and anti mass culture generally. Apart from the question of why anyone would choose film criticism as a career if that’s really how they feel, it leaves me wondering if there is any such equivalent in sports – are there sportscasters and sports writers with such open contempt for the medium they’ve chosen to comment on, who think we shouldn’t have professional sports because they keep people stupid and are a waste of money, etc.? I’m guessing not.

    I guess it’s a measure of my increased weariness about movie culture that I’m at all willing to consider the possibility that my lifelong nemesis of sports culture might be the lesser evil in some ways. Whenever I get tired of people’s whining and arguing over matters of subjective opinion it makes me hunger for a different standard based on things that are objective and measurable (I once made a career change for this very reason). In sports, there’s no arguing with the fact that this team scored more points or that player has a higher batting average. The nearest equivalents in the arts are awards and ticket sales, but even those are byproducts of other people’s preferences, leaving the door open to “Marisa Tomei didn’t deserve her Oscar” type arguments.

    I’m not surprised that there are abuses in sports that I haven’t heard about as a non-fan. I guess I was really asking about the level of scandal that permanently ends a person’s career and reputation, which from my uninformed perspective feels much more common in the arts. Maybe it reflects the schism between the macho right (who protect their own and sweep even the worst abuses under the carpet) and the intellectual left (to whom all major and minor infractions, even differences of opinion, are deal-breakers).

    Miguel, I’m sorry to hear about the abuses in Canadian hockey, including children’s hockey. In America, hockey – and soccer – aren’t forced down our throats to the same degree as baseball, basketball or (American) football, and the fact that I associate them with other countries (Canada and UK/Europe) always seemed to put them at a safer distance for me. That plus the fact that the only hockey player I can name – Wayne Gretzky – seems to be a universally beloved and inspirational figure.

  22. Well, Curt, here’s a brief example — and I haven’t followed this case THAT closely, so I might have a few small details wrong.

    Trevor Bauer was maybe one of the the best pitchers in baseball, even though he was developing a reputation as an internet troll (this was during Trump #1). Pretty sure he doxxxed someone who mocked him on Twitter, a female college student. Very uncool, but he faced no consequences.

    Later, there were a number of sexual assault allegations, one primarily focused on a supposedly-consensual sexual relationship where he violated that consent to punch and bludgeon his partner in bed. Criminal charges were dropped, but then there was a suit and a countersuit, both resulting in settlements. He sued her again, claiming she breached one of the settlements, and he won.

    Since the criminal charges were first announced in 2021, Bauer (arguably one of baseball’s five best pitchers) hasn’t been seen in the major leagues. He currently pitches in Japan, and wants to return to America but it’s doubtful an American team will ever sign him (though certain pockets of the internet are vocal about bringing him back).

    Now, this is an interesting case. If he were a lesser player, I don’t think there’d be a lot of enthusiasm about the idea of him returning to America. But to be honest, I don’t think what’s holding him back is his possible criminal sexual assault, but in fact the likelihood that this is an obnoxious guy that no one likes. His career is probably over, and every once in a while, you come across a Bauer-type who has been dumped despite zero conviction of a crime.

    Oddly enough, there was a star outfielder, Yasiel Puig, who was involved in a 2019 trade for Bauer. THAT guy had a number of shady driving infractions and a general reputation of being a party animal. But he became a free agent in 2020, and no team would touch him. Only later did it come out that he was being investigated for a sexual assault, something that apparently had circulated through the baseball world before becoming mainstream knowledge. There was nothing going on until, quietly, a team made a contract offer late in 2020, but the offer was so small that when he caught COVID, it was rescinded. He’s been playing internationally, but no one wants anything to do with him in the pros (most fans figured he just faded away), and I understand now he’s facing some serious illegal gambling allegations in America (specifically lying to the feds).

    As to your point about critical sports journalists, it’s an excellent question. Some writers have carved out a reputation for pointing out the political hypocrisies and morally-bankrupt behaviors in the modern sports world, to the point where you kind of wonder if the joy is still there. Others, the most “successful” ones, are obnoxious gate-keepers who are so endlessly, pettily critical of certain players that it feels excessively personal. Some of these guys came up with one sport, and are now pontificating about other sports they clearly know nothing about, and it’s all just one hateful dumb hot take after another. ESPN, which I don’t even watch anymore, seems to have completely surrendered to these types of people. I wince when I hear Stephen A. Smith, who has openly considered running for President (!), talk about baseball only in regards to cheap scandals despite probably being able to name ten guys. And then there’s Kendrick Perkins, who for years was genuinely the worst player in the NBA, who now exists only to start Twitter beefs with current players. I look at all these guys (even the really knowledgeable insiders who report front office scoops) and I really don’t see a lot of actual enjoyment of the sport. Moreover, some of these people are idiots.

    I love sports. Sports are fucking terrible.

  23. Sorry, Curt, but I don’t know that sports are what you’re looking for!

    “Whenever I get tired of people’s whining and arguing over matters of subjective opinion it makes me hunger for a different standard based on things that are objective and measurable (I once made a career change for this very reason). In sports, there’s no arguing with the fact that this team scored more points or that player has a higher batting average. The nearest equivalents in the arts are awards and ticket sales, but even those are byproducts of other people’s preferences, leaving the door open to “Marisa Tomei didn’t deserve her Oscar” type arguments.”

    Those kind of arguments are as intense in sports fandom. The same way you can argue that Marisa Tomei didn’t deserve her Oscar you can argue that Player A didn’t deserve to be an All-Star or to be First Team All NBA or (especially and particularly) to be MVP. Unlike film acting there are statistics to compare, it’s not totally subjective, but it’s not far off. Which statistics do you value more? How important is team success? In basketball, Player A may have scored more points and got more rebounds but Player B’s team won a lot more games and their +/- shows they were a big reason why and surely you have to reward winning more than stat padding on a bad team, right? Player B could have stuffed the stat sheet like that if he wanted all season but he cared more about winning than Player A. Arguments can go on like this and can get pretty negative.

    You could avoid these arguments and be a positive fan, but you could also ignore those arguments in movie fandom spaces.

    “Apart from the question of why anyone would choose film criticism as a career if that’s really how they feel, it leaves me wondering if there is any such equivalent in sports – are there sportscasters and sports writers with such open contempt for the medium they’ve chosen to comment on, who think we shouldn’t have professional sports because they keep people stupid and are a waste of money, etc.? I’m guessing not.”

    There are definitely sportscasters (including personalities on the most popular NBA after-show, even) who hate the NBA. Not that they would ever say it’s stupid and a waste of money, but they hate the product, they’re bored by it, they wouldn’t watch it if it wasn’t their job, and their commentary makes that very clear. In my experience baseball is much better about having casters who love the game and want to celebrate it and educate their audience about it. I don’t watch football but I hear football coverage is much better in that respect too.

    “That plus the fact that the only hockey player I can name – Wayne Gretzky – seems to be a universally beloved and inspirational figure.”

    Haha, this is comically out of date. Fuck Wayne Gretzky. Wayne Gretzky is not a universally beloved figure in his native Canada.

  24. FYI, Marisa Tomei deserved her Oscar and I will fight a motherfucker about that.

  25. JTS, I went to Wikipedia with trepidation in order to unpack your anti-Gretzky comment. After some skimming I see that he’s conservative and that he seems to be friendly with Trump to some degree. Is it “just” his personal politics and the company he keeps, or has he done more tangible harm to somebody?

    (In any case, I guess it serves me right for thinking I could name the one okay guy. I think I mainly know him as someone that Kevin Smith has frequently cited as inspirational.)

  26. It’s just his personal friendship with Trump. For me that’s enough, full stop, I don’t think you can be close personal friends with one of the despicable persons in the world and be considered anything other than a fellow scumbag — but that’s just my personal take.

    From a general Canadian perspective, the Trump-Gretzsky friendship was put under a spotlight during hockey’s recent 4 Nations Face-Off where Canada and the United States played in the finals (and Canada won in overtime!), right around when Trump was being particularly vocal about annexing Canada and Trump was public enemy number one here. Gretzky got some criticism for palling around with him and not speaking out publicly against his anti-Canadian agitating, and then Trump posted defences of Gretzky that emphasized how good a friend he was, which just poured gas on the fire. That’s why he’s no longer a beloved figure in his native Canada — which is all I said, I didn’t accuse him of any tangible harms.

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