Ahoy, squirts! Quint here to present Vern, who is taking on Sarah Silverman in Jesus Is Magic and Spike Lee’s SUCKER FREE CITY in the way only Vern can. No more intro is needed. Have at it!!!
Sarah Silverman’s JESUS IS MAGIC vs. Spike Lee’s SUCKER FREE CITY
Howdy boys. I got basically two reviews for you here. One is a standup movie by some female comedian, or comedienne, that readers of this sight are familiar with from jerking off. Er, I mean, from Comedy Central. The other one is a Spike Lee Joint made for Showtime as a pilot for a TV series but then turned into a full blown straight to cable feature. So it’s not a big screen movie but yes, it is still officially classified as a ‘Joint’ according to the box art. Anyway, I’m not sure what connection there is between these two other than that I watched them both yesterday. But that’s really the important thing here, isn’t it? Me.
JESUS IS MAGIC comes to theaters this week and no, it is not that family friendly cut of THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST. That already came out a while back and it was called THE PASSION RENAILED I believe. JESUS IS MAGIC is the name of a standup comedy movie and the star is Sarah Silverman, who apparently haunts the dreams of straight men in their 20s and 30s because she is real funny but also cute. She’s just one of the guys because she goofs around and talks about pussy all the time, but also she’s not just one of the guys because she has boobs. Female boobs. Unlike alot of comedians her comedy isn’t cruel, she is usually the butt of her own jokes. She doesn’t straightforwardly point out other people’s shortcomings, she portrays herself as an oblivious character. So maybe if she ever breaks up with that guy from TV she will go out with you and won’t make fun of you. Seriously dude I think you have a shot.
Before I continue I should probaly bring up the historical fact that RICHARD PRYOR LIVE IN CONCERT is the greatest standup film of all time, followed by RICHARD PRYOR LIVE IN CONCERT also in second place somehow and RICHARD PRYOR LIVE ON THE SUNSET STRIP in a close third. And that’s the whole list. These are great documents, concert films. But most standup films are more disposable, something that should probaly be a special on TV. I mean, ORIGINAL KINGS OF COMEDY for example, all the comedians made me laugh but the photography looked like shit and it wasn’t like it was a documentary about the phenomenon of the tour or anything. It was a cable show without the commercials. Well, JESUS IS MAGIC ain’t gonna cause any rethinking of the Richard Pryor list, but it’s a little better than a cable show. It will make you laugh and if you want to see it in a theater, you will be able to laugh in a group. You could pretend you were there in the audience when she performed it, it would be cool I guess.
Most of the movie is just her on stage doing standup. You know, everybody is different, like a snowflake, and what makes this one different is she doesn’t follow the tired old formula of how a comedian is supposed to tell jokes. She’s not the kind of comedian who laughs at her jokes are acknowledges that she’s trying to make you laugh. She’s acting, pretending she means it, selling it with her expressions and what not. The way she seems oblivious to what she’s saying is usually funnier than what she’s saying. “Politically incorrect” is the tired buzzword that hacks use to describe her because she says things that are blatantly racist or suddenly blurts out something horrible involving AIDS, the holocaust, rape or 9-11. Every once in a while it feels kind of forced and I can understand why people feel like they’re being molested when somebody keeps trying to push their buttons like that. But you can’t take what she says at face value – usually the actual content isn’t offensive. Seems to me most of the time she’s playing a character, satirizing certain types of individuals we encounter every day by exaggerating them into complete horribleness. For example, she has a pretty inspired routine about feeling guilty for enjoying a certain type of diamond that, she slowly reveals, comes from the tailbone of Ethiopian babies. “I know, it sounds so horrible!” she says. It might bother people that she even thought of some fucked up shit like that, but the butt of the joke is not the innocent baby, it’s the person who can justify killing the baby by admitting to feeling guilty about it.
You know when you’re having a conversation with somebody who seems to be perfectly reasonable and then all the sudden they let slip something you can’t even believe they said about “colored folks” or “jews control the media” or some backwards shit like that and you gotta end the conversation immediately and make sure nobody thinks you go way back with this person? Sarah Silverman’s act is completely based on that type of discomfort.
For added theatrical value, the standup occasionally leaves the stage for musical numbers. This is the main weakness of the movie. None of them are terrible, but none of them are great. Alot of comedians now days think they gotta sing songs. Ask Richard Pryor. Richard Pryor never sang any god damn songs. Get it together. Your talent is for the stage. Don’t blow it. The opening is a pretty funny skit though, featuring Brian Posehn from THE DEVIL’S REJECTS.
SUCKER FREE CITY is a new Spike Lee movie coming direct to video. Sort of. There will be talkbackers that will be OUTRAGED that this is being discussed since it played on Showtime back in February. Well, I got news for you boys. Normal people don’t pay money to have Showtime. Or, at least I don’t. So now that it’s coming to DVD this is a brand new movie in my opinion.
That reminds me: to the guy in the ESCAPIST talkback who wanted me to review LEPRECHAUN, I have not had a chance to see it yet but I promise I will get to it while it’s still fresh.
SUCKER FREE CITY was a pilot for a Showtime series that wasn’t picked up. I don’t know for sure but it’s probaly like MULLHOLLAND DRIVE and CRUEL INTENTIONS 2 where they shot some new scenes to make it seem more like a self contained movie. I bet the main character didn’t learn his lesson and turn his back on gangs in the first episode.
Like me in this review, Spike Lee can be pretty scatter brained and unfocused. Even way back in JUNGLE FEVER and MO BETTER BLUES he had a bad habit of trying to cram way too much into one movie. I mean, why would you try to tackle interracial relationships AND crack addiction in the same movie? I think HE GOT GAME is really underrated, but he should’ve cut out the entire subplot about Milla Jovovich. And BAMBOOZLED, man, I don’t even know where to start on that one. But I still like Spike Lee alot and if there’s anybody else out there who does I recommend this one to you.
From the first shot you know this one’s tackling too much, because the first shot is San Francisco as seen from outer space. “Sucker Free City” means San Francisco although, according to the show, there actually are some suckers in the city. The show is about the intersection between 3 different criminals: white guy from the Mission District (Ben Crowley, I guess), Asian guy from Chinatown (Ken Leung), and black guy from Hunter’s Point (Anthony Mackie, star of SHE HATE ME, which even I haven’t seen yet). Each of the neighborhoods gets text on the screen to explain their history, like it’s some fantasy movie.
White guy is the least likable. He’s starting out in the mail room in an office building. Who wants to watch a show about some shaggy haired kid working in an office? That’s what Coke commercials are for. Through friends from his old neighborhood he becomes the office coke dealer and tries to get into credit fraud. We might be able to forgive him for this if he was charismatic, but he always seems broody and pissed off. He tries to act tough but he’s obviously terrified of his black neighbors, mainly because they call him Opie, point guns at him and welcome the family to the neighborhood by breaking in and stealing all their shit.
His mom is Kathy Baker (born to play well intentioned white mom) and his dad is John Glover, the guy who ran over Buggin Out’s shoe. Also there’s a sister who looks like the girl from 24 and probaly would’ve had something to do if there had been more than one episode.
Then there’s Ken Leung, a small fry in a Tong who keeps fucking up and getting in trouble with his bosses. I gotta be honest, I know nothing about the Tongs that I haven’t seen in movies, so I got no idea if this part has any connection to reality. It just reminded me of other movies. (And yes, some of those other movies star Steven Seagal.) The more interesting aspect of his character is when he’s dealing with matters of Asian pride, like the scene where he talks to some kids (younger brothers?) and tries to get them into sports instead of chess. The script was written by Alex Tse, a bonafide Asian guy from Sucker Free City, so he probaly knows what he’s talking about.
By far the most likable and interesting character is Anthony Mackie. He’s a member of the “V-Dub Mafia” but it seems like he’s trying to enlighten them from inside. Jim Brown, playing a Jim Brown-like community activist, occasionally shows up to try to guilt him out of gang activity. He tries to have a similar influence on a 12-year old drug courier, trying to make him interested in learning and even trying to convince him to get a paper route. This might not turn out well though.
There’s a subplot about a local rapper named Killa Ski (played by a guy named JT the Bigga Figga). The V-Dubs let him record in their crappy studio and pressure him to be more gangsta in his lyrics. This one takes a long time to get going, establishing each of the characters and their worlds, but it really starts rolling when the V-Dubs find out an old lady is selling Killa Ski bootlegs in Chinatown and confront her about it. (Tupac did the same thing once, I saw it in some movie.) The movie seems pretty aimless for a while but when the three leads all intersect a good 100 or so minutes in it feels worth it. There is racial tension between them but I like that it mostly doesn’t fall into the obvious shit. For example the white guy has some problems with black people, but he never calls them racial slurs or says anything too blatant. And he’s dealing with people who actually are a threat to him and have wronged him. So he’s not being unfair. (You still don’t side with him though, because he’s a chump.)
Bootlegging, by the way, is not an area of crime I have seen a TV show about, so it seems like this could’ve been pretty interesting. There must be 25 shows between the Law and Orders and the CSIs and not one of them deals with bootlegging CDs. America loves sex killers I guess.
SUCKER FREE CITY is some weird hybrid between a tv show and a real movie. If it had been shown in a theater it would’ve felt incomplete. It has a huge cast and lots of minor characters (Jim Brown, a detective, a lady at the office, the parents) who probaly would’ve been important if there had been a series. On the other hand it really doesn’t feel like any other TV show I’ve ever seen. More than one main character is shot or stabbed to death in the pilot, and still it doesn’t feel like it’s mainly about crime. It’s very loose, not plot driven. And it looks like a million bucks. Thank God Spike got past the foggy digital video era of BAMBOOZLED and ORIGINAL KINGS OF COMEDY. This one looks more like HE GOT GAME – crisp and vivid images with juiced up colors that feel like they might burn your eyeballs. Some of it has that hyper-real look like that movie BELLY. Or like Tony Scott NOT on speed.
Somebody from San Francisco reviewed the movie on IMDB and said it was totally phoney and that these were more like New York guys and not SFC. I’m sure the guy is making valid points but I think this is supposed to be more of a Spike Lee world than a real world. Yeah it’s shot handheld and whatnot but it’s no documentary. The characters wear colored wristbands to represent their heritage. The V-Dubs drink a malt liquor called “The Bomb” that comes in a bottle shaped like an atom bomb. It’s ABOUT the real world but it takes place in a heightened reality. Or something.
So how does SUCKER FREE CITY compare to JESUS IS MAGIC? Well that’s a tough call. Of the two, I would say that JESUS IS MAGIC is the funnier one. I liked in SUCKER FREE when the white dad tried to impress Anthony Mackie by namedropping Bobby Seal, and when the V-dubs were trying to sell the appliances they stole from across the street. But mostly it’s not very funny. JESUS is funny most of the time.
SUCKER FREE has better photography though, and a more multi-layered insight into race relations. So I will give the photography/race relations category to SFC. Good effort though, JESUS.
For screen size, gotta go with JESUS because it’s playing in theaters. So I guess it’s a toss up between these two, I’m not sure what to say. Neither is great. Both are flawed but brilliant in parts. Both are a little better than TV and a little worse than movies. Both have three words in their titles.
Originally posted at Ain’t-It-Cool-News: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/21938
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Dec. 1, 2005, 3:35 a.m. CST
You had me until Spike Lee…
by Negative Man
Seeing Jesus is Magic on Friday…me needs a good laugh.
Dec. 1, 2005, 3:45 a.m. CST
I have a copy of Leprechaun 3, I could burn you a copy to review
by Alonzo Mosely
I’d also suggest Detox or as it is also known, Eye See You. It is like a really bad Seagal flick, only somehow the producers got really lucky and ended up with Stallone. It is also not at all new…
Dec. 1, 2005, 3:46 a.m. CST
I saw Sarah Silverman on Celebrity Poker…
She was going on about how she hates her thighs, but loves her vagina. I shit you not. She is damn hot anyway, but became even hotter after that comment.
Dec. 1, 2005, 3:48 a.m. CST
I saw Sarah Silverman on Celebrity Poke her…
by Alonzo Mosely
Then I woke up… Now I need to go pitch that show…
Dec. 1, 2005, 3:59 a.m. CST
That shows a winner – don’t forget my royalties. Actually, you can keep them as long as I can be in it. Doesn’t have to be a starring role or anything. I can hand out the towels.
Dec. 1, 2005, 4:02 a.m. CST
You said no hookers Stanley, No hookers! hookers! hookers!
Sorry to break the laughter,
Dec. 1, 2005, 4:02 a.m. CST
is awful…if you refer to your movie’s as “joints” you deserve to be punished both cruelly and unusually.
Dec. 1, 2005, 4:10 a.m. CST
RIP Linda McFly…
by Alonzo Mosely
Dec. 1, 2005, 4:29 a.m. CST
I am the one who likes his movies. I haven’t seen SHE HATE ME yet though, that must be the racist one you’re talking about. Also, the version of DO THE RIGHT THING I saw was the one where you would have to be silly to think Mookie throwing the garbage can was “doing the right thing.” The one I have seen is the Criterion edition that they also released in theaters and on home video previously. If you have an alternate cut let me know we could do a trade or something. thanks bud.
Dec. 1, 2005, 4:40 a.m. CST
Silverman can take it up the *ss
All she is good for.
Dec. 1, 2005, 4:56 a.m. CST
When will Sucker Free City be available to own?
I’ve heard of this coming for a while but I hate tv and I don’t feel like paying for cable/satellite/ whatever just to get good tv.
I’ve yet to see a really hot Jewish girl, Silverman’s cute but not quit jerk off material.
Dec. 1, 2005, 5:38 a.m. CST
“Brian Posehn from The Devil’s Rejects”
So is that your best way of describing Brian? Damn, that kinda sucks. Brian’s a fine talent. He has done a ton of great work. Oh well.
Dec. 1, 2005, 5:46 a.m. CST
Yeah, Fucked up that AICN didn’t mention the death of Wendie
I guess they didn’t like Back to the Future, Moving Violations, Bachelor Party, or Corvette Summer. Mark Hamill driving around the neighborhood… I figured that at least Quint would give her a mention. Oh well.
Dec. 1, 2005, 5:57 a.m. CST
So ringbearer how are those paranoid delusuions working out for
“encoded violent racism”??? You fucking dumbass.
Dec. 1, 2005, 6:03 a.m. CST
Dec. 1, 2005, 7:22 a.m. CST
Sarah Silverman should do all her stand ups naked
She’d be the richest woman alive I tell you!
Dec. 1, 2005, 7:27 a.m. CST
“Opens this week”?
by John Maddening
Where is it opening this week — East Bumblefuck, Kentucky? It’s been open here in Minneapolis for a month, and we’re sure not NYC or LA.
Dec. 1, 2005, 7:58 a.m. CST
Is Kimmel is the first successful comic in history who’s gir
Why isn’t she hosting a show instead of that pudge with dead eyes?
Dec. 1, 2005, 8:02 a.m. CST
John Savage was on the bike,
John Glover is Lex’s Dad on Smallville. and Bryce Cummings in Scrooged.
Dec. 1, 2005, 8:10 a.m. CST
I heart Sarah Silverman
by Citizen Arcane
and her sister, the receptionist in Dr. Katz. And Vern lost all credibility when he ripped on South Park and then admitted that he’s never seen the show. And Spike Lee is an agnry, angry black man. His chain of boutiques and his lifetime court side baskeball seats don’t diminish that in the least.
Dec. 1, 2005, 8:16 a.m. CST
“normal people dont pay money to have showtime”
by fried samurai
Vern thats funny but oh so true.I get a good laugh everytime some whiny bitch says they’re gonna switch to Showtime because HBO cancelled Carnivale.
Dec. 1, 2005, 8:42 a.m. CST
I just can’t be bothered to use a lot on a fucking dumbass l
Dec. 1, 2005, 8:50 a.m. CST
Actually Richard Pryor Live In Concert is the top 5 stand up com
“Felt like a wet Q-tip” “They don’t shoot cars…they shoot niggars” “Ain’t this a bitch, I done died and went to the wrong mother fucking heaven…now I have to listen to Lawrence Welk for the rest of my days” FUNNY SHIT
Dec. 1, 2005, 9:31 a.m. CST
Wendy Jo Sperber died? Man, that sucks.
Loved her in BOSOM BUDDIES and WOMEN IN PRISON.
Dec. 1, 2005, 9:57 a.m. CST
Lequizamo’s “Freak” and Murphy’s “Delirious” deserve to
and as soon as someone starts trashing Spike Lee lock stock and barrel as simply an angry black racist who thinks white people are evil, it only exposes their own racism. but, considering who that shit is coming from on here, i can’t say i am surprised.
Dec. 1, 2005, 10:17 a.m. CST
What the FUCK is wrong with you people?
Didn’t you see Malcolm X? How the fuck can you watch that movie and tell me that Spike Lee is an angry black racist? Jesus Horatio Christ, the level of ignorance in this place.
Dec. 1, 2005, 10:22 a.m. CST
talk dirty to me
Hearing a girl I don’t know personally talk about intimate sexual details effects me the same way as when I hear a guy talk about hair care products and moisturizer. There are some secrets that should only be discussed between friends.
Dec. 1, 2005, 10:36 a.m. CST
Agree with you on “Delirious”…was just going to post that. Goony-Goo-Goo, motherfucker.
Dec. 1, 2005, 10:45 a.m. CST
Hey fried samurai
by Spike Fett
Normal people don’t pay for HBO either.
Dec. 1, 2005, noon CST
i don’t see the attraction for Silverman either
but hey, to each his own
Dec. 1, 2005, 12:31 p.m. CST
Malcolm X;s “de-radicalization”??????
and ringbearer wonders why people call him a dumbass? how ignorant can someone be. does he have even a vague concept of the word “radical”? any Black man looking for the same rights as whites was a radical during that time period, and MLK was vilified by the ringbearers of that time-period for being a dangerous radical who was detrimental to the nation’s well-being.
Dec. 1, 2005, 12:42 p.m. CST
The white guy is the least likeable?
In a Spike Lee movie? Perish the thought.
Dec. 1, 2005, 12:45 p.m. CST
ringbearer: That’s W.E.B. DuBois, you dumbass.
I don’t know what kind of Black History textbook you’ve been using, but the damn thing is missing a few letters.
Dec. 1, 2005, 12:47 p.m. CST
Re: Silverman, MAX HARDCORE SEZ
Dec. 1, 2005, 12:58 p.m. CST
another one for Ringbearer
I don’t really know how we’re gonna come to an agreement on this one bud because as far as I can tell, your interpretation of DO THE RIGHT THING is completely insane. Mother Sister is the voice of reason in DTR. The movie ends the next morning cleaning up the garbage and Mookie having to come collect his paycheck from a guy whose business he destroyed. You think you’re supposed to be thinking, “All right Mookie, you showed that white bastard!” Come on, man, that’s ridiculous. And I know you’re not talking about some weird TV version with alternate scenes because I’ve seen the TV version, and it’s hilarious. “Put some more cheese on that bad boy, ya know what I’m sayin?” A couple other things you’re wrong on. First of all, white people in the mainstream did not necessarily love DO THE RIGHT THING back in 1989. In fact, didn’t Newsweek have to bring in a guest reviewer to write a negative review just so their readers wouldn’t get pissed that the regular critic loved it so much? Just yesterday I was debating a guy who never saw DTRT until years later and was claiming that it was an “easy” movie and now here you’re telling me it’s the fucking black Mein Kampf in secret code. Also, MALCOLM X: again, it sounds like you saw the movie through defective eyeballs. The fucking CLIMAX of the movie is when he leaves the Nation of Islam and goes to Mecca and changes his views of white people. They’d never let an American shoot at Mecca before so it was a pretty big deal. Then they got all the kids (including white kids) saying “I AM MALCOLM X!” There’s no fucking way you could watch that movie and read it as “fuck whitey!” In fact I think the movie waters down the fact that Malcolm actually DID hate white people earlier in his life. So yes, what I’m saying is, you’re backwards. The movie is too EASY on whitey.
Dec. 1, 2005, 1:02 p.m. CST
by Darth Thoth
Some of you people make me sick. Really. First off, props to Vern who is the man. Props to a few of you talkbackers who actually see what Spike tries to do. And props to you talkbackers who actually know what you’re talking about. For the rest of you, listen up. First off, I hate how somebody like Spike is chastised for being an “angry black man.” Listen, why would he be angry? Well…maybe because of the many injustices in this world- discrimination, poverty, criminal injustice, disenfranchisement, etc.. Yes, many black people are affected by these issues so why shouldn’t he be upset?! But take it a step further, many people in general are affected by these issues. In fact, MLK said “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” So if people are struggling, as they are, us as humanity, a family, should ALL BE OUTRAGED at what’s going on. You shouldn’t criticize Spike for saying something. You should look at yourself for not doing anything! Not standing for something is falling for anything. Next, stop dissing Spike for his movies. Are they unfocussed at times? Yes. Does he try to tackle too many issues? Yes. But I hate how fanboys are quick to dis Spike for what? Independently writing his own movies, directing them, and producing them! We can toss praise on a remake artist like Peter Jackson (who is my favorite director working today by the way) but dis Spike for his original and creative, if imperfect, efforts? Please. Get out of my face. You see, to you who see Spike as an “angry black man,” he is a threat to you. He raises consciousness that threatens your status quo. OR, you are ignorant and just take the critiques you “hear” about Spike as gospel. I dare you to forget the hype and really look at what he’s saying in his movies. He Got Game- about a father/ son relationship. 25th Hour- YackBacker gave a great description to that movie. Bamboozled- about how Hollywood has historically denigrated black people. Malcolm X- Spike’s interpretation of MX’s life. Was it complete? No, but it was his version. If you want other perspectives go out and read a book. I dare you. And for space/ time reasons I won’t break down any more of his movies but you get my drift. And again, I’m not hear to defend Spike and call him the greatest director ever. No way! But what I am trying to do is take many of you to task and dare you to look inward at yourself and what shapes YOUR views and question these views. A few last quick points: 1) It’s W.E.B. DuBois. 2) Spike is a pretty conceited dude in person. 3) Peven basically told ringbearer9 what I want to say regarding “radical.” ringbearer9, my advice to you would be to read the Autobiography of Malcolm X as well as read some info about America during the 60s and the injustices that persisted during that time. I think it will give you an idea of how things were and how radical an idea of equality between races was at that time. Then maybe you will have a better understanding of where Malcolm, MLK, etc. were all coming from. Then, we can all look at society today, see the parallels, and work towards fighting present day injustices. And I’m not just speaking about black people. All people- black white gay straight American foreign man woman, etc. OK, hope my little rant helped folks. Peace.
Dec. 1, 2005, 1:05 p.m. CST
FatPaul & Vern
by Darth Thoth
Wow, I was typing my response I guess while you two posted your newest posts. Sorry to be redundant folks. But yeah, I feel Fat Paul and Vern 100%
Dec. 1, 2005, 1:06 p.m. CST
talkback response potpouri
to RECKNI: you might be the new Shakespeare I’m pretty sure. *** to DEADGUY: February 22nd, sorry I forgot to mention that. *** to STLFILMWIRE: What can I say man, I recognized him from the Devil’s Rejects. *** to 433: It comes out this week in Seattle, which is hundreds of miles northwest of Bumblefuck. Not sure which highway to take but if you need directions try mapquest I guess. *** to BC1970: You’re right I fucked up. I mixed up their names but I had the right guy, it was John Savage in SUCKER FREE and who owned the brownstone. Thanks for catching that, I should’ve had you proofreead. *** to QTN: I’ll check it out bud
Dec. 1, 2005, 1:53 p.m. CST
it’s the ignorant cracker parade everytime spike’s name
still! all it proves is that racist white people read bad reviews of do the right thing and malcolm x and sum up the man’s career 15 years later from that. it’s pitiful. vern, you may not know dick about south park, but thanks for actually paying attention to spike’s movies and not spike himself. to anyone who may be interested in getting a more full view of spike’s identity as a filmmaker, i’d suggest you check out check out crooklyn, clockers, and 25th hour. also, i’m familiar with the interview regarding W.E.B. Du Bois referenced, and Spike was messing with the interviewer because he pronounced it the french way – “DuBwa”, instead of the way Dr. Du Bois’ family pronounced it, like “DuBoyz”. Spike is very familiar with the founder of the NAACP.
Dec. 1, 2005, 1:57 p.m. CST
by Childe Roland
…Vern, you still “da man.” Your reviews may actually be longer than most of the others on the site, but they read fast and fucking funny. Next, I don’t know how anyone can paint Spike Lee solely with the “angry black man” brush. Sure, there may be angry/oppressed elements in his movies (in the 25th Hour, they aren’t black at all), but that shit exists. And the sheer scope of subject matter he’s tackled speaks to his diversity as a director. I have no idea how he acts at basketball games and that really doesn’t make a bit of difference in terms of how I view his work (I hear Bryan Singer is a giant asshole to work with, but he’s still a damned good director). I think that Lee’s films must be Ringbearer’s Yoda tree. “What’s in there?” “Only what you take with you.”
Dec. 1, 2005, 2:04 p.m. CST
Sarah Silverman Slays
Dec. 1, 2005, 3:36 p.m. CST
I Couldn’t Even Read This All The Way Through
You expect me to take the word of a writer who is this lazy and jumbled? Dude, it’s called a FIRST DRAFT. I don’t wanna read that. Also, jesus Is Magic? Yeah, I saw that when it came out, like, A MONTH AGO. Dudes, what’s going on with this site?
Dec. 1, 2005, 3:49 p.m. CST
“Spike Lee ignored Malcolm X’s later de-radicalization.”
Actually I know what you’re talking about and you’re wrong. The only reason I even knew that Malcolm X changed his views and became more MLK-like is because of the Spike Lee flick. That aspect was DEFINITELY in the movie. (I thought the movie itself was pretty boring. Really? We needed a 20 minute jitterbug scene? Then again, I had the same complaint with the useless rave scene in Matrix 2.) Spike Lee isn’t a racist or a genius or any of that. He’s a mediocre director with a hit-or-miss career that, in my opinion, includes more misses than hits. The only reason he’s considered controversial anymore is because he’s Black and knows that gets under Whitey’s skin and he doesn’t give a shit. Stop arguing the wrong thing: Just be honest. Purely as a filmmaker, does he create solid art or not? The other arguments are superflouos. Also to the dude who made that threesome with a pregnant chick joke?–NOT FUNNY BECAUSE IT’S OLD. Did you really think you came up with that first?
Dec. 1, 2005, 3:54 p.m. CST
Vern once again Rocks the Goddamm House
reading one of Vern’s reviews is like reading James Joyce’s Ulysses…if James Joyce were lobotomized and forced to huff paint thinner. But in a good way.
Dec. 1, 2005, 4:01 p.m. CST
Wait… she’s been Kimmelled?!?!?
by 3 Bag Enema
Dec. 1, 2005, 4:16 p.m. CST
Karate Kid Movie Review
by Darth Thoth
Sorry for being off topic folks but go over to espn.com and read Bill Simmons’ updated Karate Kid Trilogy review. Easily the funniest movie review I have ever read in my life. You will be on the floor… I promise.
Dec. 1, 2005, 4:20 p.m. CST
Well, Childe Roland
Singer does enjoy working with those giant assholes, but they’re usually only like that AFTER he’s done with them. ZING!
Dec. 1, 2005, 4:22 p.m. CST
DO THE RIGHT THING has one scene that stuck with me – when the rioting starts, and a group of Black guys rush towards the Chinese man and his store. He fends them off with his broom, saying, “I Black! I Black!” And someone stands up for him, because he’s ‘Black’ enough. Racists see their own race as a species separate and above others. Spike Lee uses his experience as a Black man to show where tension and symphathy lie between us all.
Dec. 1, 2005, 4:25 p.m. CST
Just one thing to say
FUCK Spike Lee. I would say “fuck Spike Lee up his stupid ass” but that might suggest that I’m not completely serious. He is a bigot and a racist, plain and simple. I will not buy, rent, or any other way pay money to see his flicks. The few I have seen have been on cable. I don’t support his movies because I don’t condone racism. Those who say he isn’t racist because he’s black or that he gets a pass because of what blacks have been through need to re-evaluate their own racism. And to those who think Malcolm X was a pretty good guy after watching Spike’s movie, I would urge you to read “The Autobiography of Malcolm X” if you want to hear what his real beliefs are without Spike’s bias getting in the way.
Dec. 1, 2005, 4:40 p.m. CST
Spike Lee is an idiot filled with hate.
by Thirteen 13
Always has been. Always will be. His movies gross all of 10 million after a 12 week run, except for his Malcolm X movie which did a blazing 21 million. African Americans don’t even bother to see his movies. Nobody in the world gives a shit about Spike Lee except guilty white liberals. Guilty white liberals are 90% of his fanbase. And yet, hollywood still keeps handing him money to make another flop so they can prove they aren’t racist. The cost of trying to prove your not a racist is getting pretty expensive. LOL!!!!
Dec. 1, 2005, 4:48 p.m. CST
“How ’bout a “Spike Lee vs. the Talkbackers” column, a la Ke
by Thirteen 13
Please no. After Kevin Smiths 3rd grade tantrum he threw we don’t need another talkback with a pissed off director with too much time on his hands. I still laugh my ass off how the Kevin Smith fanatics view his juvenile shit-fit against the talkbackers as some kind of victory. LOL!!!!
Dec. 1, 2005, 4:49 p.m. CST
Maybe it’s just me
But I thought that the last half hour of Malcolm X, during which he travels to Mecca and end up renouncing the Nation of Islam, was sort of dealing with his “de-radicalization”. Or maybe I just see what I want to see to back up my pitiful arguments. No, that doesn’t sound like something I would do, but it sure sounds familar…
Dec. 1, 2005, 4:50 p.m. CST
By the way
I tried to watch Jimmy Kimmel and Sarah Silverman on that “Too Late with Adam Corolla” show, but I just couldn’t do it. It was too painful. Good to know she’s such a good girlfriend that she’ll debase herself by appearing in very bad comedy on a very bad show that stars her unfunny boyfriend’s unfunny best friend, but still.
Dec. 1, 2005, 5:04 p.m. CST
I hate to call anybody a stupid motherfucker, but…
come on, you stupid motherfuckers. Regardless of what you think of Spike Lee’s racial tolerance, his skill as a filmmaker, his etiquette at basketball games or how he looks in a sweater, don’t be dumping your retarded unlicensed psychologist bullshit on me saying I watch his movies because I’m a “guilty white liberal.” Okay so I was guilty but I already paid my debt to society. The point is I watch Spike Lee movies because I LIKE THEM. I know it’s weird but it’s true. His movies are usually flawed but I think they’re interesting, especially following the way his style has evolved over the years. And yet there’s not one movie he’s done (including the white people movies like SUMMER OF SAM and 25TH HOUR) where you can’t immediately figure out it’s Spike Lee directing. He’s completely unique. I like him better than most – shit, I even thought GIRL 6 was okay and EVERYBODY hated that shit. I might even be the first one to like SHE HATE ME when I see it. I’m not gonna try to guess some deep rooted psychological reasons for why you listen to Kenny G or jerk off to Seinfeld or whatever it is you do with your life. So please give me a little credit and assume that when I say I like Spike Lee movies it’s because I actually do. By the way, I challenge you to watch FOUR LITTLE GIRLS. One final point: I reviewed two movies here. One is about black, white and Asian characters and what they have in common. The other is a woman who says things about “japs” and “dirty Mexicans” and Ethiopian babies for shock value. And check out which one is being accused of being racist.
Dec. 1, 2005, 5:25 p.m. CST
Oh yeah, and to Citizen Arcane
Seriously bud, I’m pretty sure I never “ripped on South Park” because I never even watched that cartoon. The article was about Troy and Chet or whatever their names are and how they had a deal with Paramount. I wrote a short talkback about how I wish they would believe in something for once. This was entirely based on my impression of them from “Team America,” a movie they did, and from an article I read about them. If I had watched that cartoon and felt the same about it I would’ve mentioned it. The defense rests.
Dec. 1, 2005, 6:07 p.m. CST
by Darth Thoth
Don’t sweat some of the ignorant idiots on this talkback. Their ignorance is so apparent it’s sad they don’t even know it. Hopefully someday they’ll learn. But keep doing what you do and feeling what you feel. It takes courage to challenge oneself to grow and see things outside one’s own world. You have nothing to feel guilty about. And by the way, I like Spike’s movies too. Some more than others ;) He is very very talented though.
Dec. 1, 2005, 7:40 p.m. CST
You Had Me Up To “Threesome With Sarah Silverman And…”
by Flim Springfield
I’m going to pretend you said “Scarlett Johansson”…
Dec. 1, 2005, 8:23 p.m. CST
Good Ol’ Spike Lee
by Roger Thornhill
Who else can create such outrage in talkbacks? Probably only Oliver Stone pisses off fanboys more than Spike Lee, because they’re both filmmakers who QUESTION the status quo. They may be way off sometimes, but at least they try. I personally love Spike Lee’s work. Do The Right Thing is amazing and no I don’t think it’s racist towards white people. Bamboozled I think is one of his more underrated films, it may be all over the place and it may degenerate into violence in the third act, but the first 2/3rds were so riveting and provocative. I love the ending montage of all the racist paraphanilia(sp?) that were produced in the 19th and early 20th century. Crazy stuff. And 25th Hour? I think it’s right up there with Do The Right Thing as Spike’s other masterpiece. I haven’t seen She Hate Me because unfortunately it got overwhelmingly negative reviews, but I may rent it. Spike as a person seems a bit egotisical and sometimes a little crazy, like his hinting on Real Time with Bill Maher that Bush intentionally blew up the levees to flood the black neighborhoods, but Spike has every right to be proud of himself considering his many achievements. And that’s not easy for a black man either.
Dec. 1, 2005, 8:24 p.m. CST
Before I get flamed too badly
by Roger Thornhill
I wanted to explain my last line, what I meant is that it was difficult in the 1980s for a black man to become a major Hollywood director. That’s all. Flame away fuckers.
Dec. 1, 2005, 9:59 p.m. CST
Dec. 1, 2005, 11:39 p.m. CST
It is true that I’m a poet, but you don’t have to read metaphors into my posts. “Paid my debt to society” = “served time.” Here’s the deal, dude. You are a bigot. You probaly don’t think so but try reading back that racist bullshit you just wrote there about malt liquor and welfare checks. I’m not a sensitive dude but it honestly is shocking to me that just by writing a review of a movie by a black director I stir up this shit. Not a single one of you ignorant wackos has said anything about the actual movie, which is arguably even corny in its attempt to bring the races together. Spike Lee makes a movie about different races coming together, you bring out your catalog of racist stereotypes and HE is the racist? You can have bad taste in movies, you can be an asshole, you can say I’m a cocksucker because I gave a positive review of a cable movie you have no interest in, but for fuck’s sake, at some point in your miserable life I beg you to catch up with the advances of the human race in the past fifty years or so. You will be a happier person and won’t have to lash out at as many strangers on the internet. You will stil probaly be an asshole though but who knows. Good luck.
Dec. 1, 2005, 11:50 p.m. CST
“Isn’t Spike Lee’s Whole Philosophy about how Evil white
No, you are confusing tepidid liberalism (Spike Lee) with a caricature of Malcolm X. It hardly needs to be pointed out that this is disgustingly racist. Basically, it is the racists’ fear of any black man who talks openly about racist oppression in Amerikkka. When even Spike Lee’s watered down portrayals of racist oppression in this country can set you off like that, you know you have a serious problem. A racist problem. —- BTW, Malcolm X was not about “smashing them,” but SELF DEFENSE, by any means necessary. That is a basic human right, except when it comes to black people, who are supposed to take whatever shit this society dumps on them without fighting back.
Dec. 2, 2005, 12:01 a.m. CST
Vern, you are the only columnist or author I’ve ever read
who can write back to your readers at length and stay in character (i.e., still sound like the same person) and not sound whiny or lame or jerky or condescending. That is a most impressive trait that you have.
Dec. 2, 2005, 12:28 a.m. CST
Another TB for the ages…
by Alonzo Mosely
And will we ever find out what Vern’s crime was? Or will that subplot be abandoned so we can get more kung-fu action? Tune in next week to find out. Or don’t. What do I care? I am thinking up racial insults for people from Belgium…
Dec. 2, 2005, 2:07 a.m. CST
Comingsoon/Superherohype have a run down of the teaser set to debut on Dec. 5…it sounds pretty cool! My guess is this might be “cool” news in a few days…and they will post the link to the teaser maybe a week after it hits…thats how this place works now
Dec. 2, 2005, 2:11 a.m. CST
I used to want to fuck Sarah Silverman…
And then I found out she’s been fucking Jimmy Kimmel for the past few years, and I threw up a little in my mouth.
Dec. 2, 2005, 4:08 a.m. CST
anchorite 2: the final chapter
I’m supposed to buy that your post calling me a cocksucker and telling me to drink malt liquor and move to New Orleans was a parody of Sarah Silverman’s comedic style. Motherfucker do I look retarded? I’m glad you’re at least embarassed about what you wrote and realize that you have to come up with a justification for it. But don’t insult my intelligence.
Dec. 2, 2005, 4:24 a.m. CST
This Site sucks!!!
Where the fuck is the Narnia review on this site! Its in all the Brit papers this morning, but you can never trust the hacks that are writing the reviews, but the general consensus is that its “alright”, whatever the fuck that means. And thanks for the Harry Potter review Harry, it used to be films like Potter that got this site up and going, now we have reviews of Rent!!!
Dec. 2, 2005, 6:16 a.m. CST
anchorite is just in a really really bad mood because he got tot
Of course he says he didn’t but then he’s a man who’s been living in denial for what seems to be 60 years. I wish we could do polls on this site (soon we will). We could have a vote on wether anchorite is a dumb little turd or just a troll.
Dec. 2, 2005, 8:56 a.m. CST
by Lost Skeleton
to fight the menance that is Spike Lee. Okay, what are we talking about.
Sidebar: Sarah Silverman is kind of hot and I think dating that round mound Kimmel is her ultimate joke
Dec. 2, 2005, 10:10 a.m. CST
“Why is it so funny when Sarah Silverman does it?”
Because she’s a skilled and successful comedian.
Dec. 2, 2005, 10:21 a.m. CST
You shouldn’t be so nervous. The fact is that whites are in control of the vast majority of political and financial insititutions in this country. “Diversity” is a “half-empty/half-full” proposition. You describe it as “less whites” whereas others might describe it as “more blacks, asians, latinos, etc.” And it isn’t “post-modern intellectuals” who have argued that there’s no such thing as race. That’s an arugument that has been going on in biology for the last one hundred years. When it’s demonstrably more difficult for white people in America to get loans or mortgages (as study after study has shown is still the case with blacks), then you can start worrying.
Dec. 2, 2005, 11:20 a.m. CST
Didn’t this site used to post things regularly?
by Brock Samson
While I thought the interviews were fine, why hasn’t the page changed in over 24 hours? Harry too busy selling out?
Dec. 2, 2005, 11:31 a.m. CST
“It seems that today, every race _except_ the White race is cons
What does that even mean? By the way can you tell me what “the white race” is? Isn’t it a variety of European ethnicities? There’s no such thing as one white race. There’s no such thing as one black race either but since we stole blacks from all over Africa there’s some confusion about who came from where. I’m going to argue that things turned out the way they did because of circumstance, namely that Europeans invented the gun. If Africans had invented the gun, perhaps they would have killed off the “Indians” and enslaved white people, who knows? But the fact that white people reproduce less in America because reproduction is linked to class (the poorer you are the more likely you are to have a lot of children–this is true throughout the world) and whites are disporportionately wealthier than everyone else, uh, consider the changing balance of power evolution. I mean that’s what you’d tell Native Americans, right? Plus, WHO CARES?! Who cares what color you are or your kids? Why does that bother anyone? You don’t care what color their eyes are so why so uptight about the skin? What about race is worth preserving? The so-called “differences” are what create conlfict in the first place because from that is born the us/them mentality. So do you want conflict based on something as mundane as a difference in humans that your eye picks up. or do you want peace based on the fact that we’re all in this together?
Dec. 2, 2005, 1:38 p.m. CST
Technically, the Chinese invented the gun…
Europeans just perfected it and came up with many variations for use in battle.
Dec. 2, 2005, 1:46 p.m. CST
Perhaps the most controversial film of next year..
by Roger Thornhill
..will be Spike Lee’s documentary on the New Orleans disaster. I think it’ll be even more controversial than Stone’s 9/11 film since Stone is supposedely trying to be apolitical in it. But knowing Stone I’d be surprised if his 9/11 film isn’t political in some ways considering the impact of that event on US politics. Anyways, Spike Lee’s documentary reportedly will discuss the possibity that the levees were intentionally blown up by Bush to save the white neighbhorhoods. At least that’s how the conspiracy theory goes I think. I’m really interested to see it but Spike said that documentary will not solely focus on the conspiracy theory about the levees, but it’ll just be a part of it. That’s good, because if the whole film’s about an obviously (in my opinion) idiotic conspiracy theory it’ll taint his career. But apparentely this conspiracy theory is becoming quite popular within black communities. I’m not surprised at all, considering how poorly black people in New Orleans were treated after the hurricane disaster, it’s no wonder they begin to believe these wild conspiracy theories about 9/11 and the levees.
Dec. 2, 2005, 2:01 p.m. CST
Here’s the conspiracy I see…Harry and crew are sitting around the AICN offices smoking hashish and watching that kick-ass Christmas episode of Sanford and Son (where Lamont buys Fred a new watch) on DVD. That’s the conspiracy. Not that they are all a bunch of lazy nut-sacks and decided to take a 3 day weekend and NOT UPDATE THE GODDAMM SITE TODAY…don’t they know that talkbackers are, by nature, desperate lonely people? What the hell am I going to do with my day if there is no cool news? Christ I need to get a life…
Dec. 2, 2005, 2:24 p.m. CST
KONG! KONG! KONG!
KONG! KONG! KONG! It sounds funny after you say it over and over again a few times.
Dec. 2, 2005, 2:41 p.m. CST
Harry’s Kong Review
When Harry finally reviews Kong, it is going to be his defining review. Watch him pull out all the stops! That, my friends, is going to be the best read of the year, it might even be more entertaing than the film itself. Can’t wait!
Dec. 2, 2005, 3:22 p.m. CST
RE: Harry’s Kong Review
by Neo Zeed
It will be the most non objective review of the year. That much I can tell you. Hell, even Harry will tell you that.
Dec. 2, 2005, 3:25 p.m. CST
Kong Is KING!!!
Hey, Folks! Harry Here! Just got back from a press screening of King Kong and all I can say is…OH MY FUCKING GOD IN HEAVEN THIS IS JUST BLISS! Peter Jackson got everything right. Just bliss. I cried at the end. Bliss. Jack Black was so toned down in his performance it was…in a word…BLISS. And as beautiful as the blond was I just couldn’t help popping bone for the big hairy CGI ass of Kong. His hairy monkey ass is sheer bliss. Sure it was three hours long but those were three blissful hours full of bliss. And you know what the best part of all was?–The part with the bliss. Now I want to hear what YOU have to say! Blissfully Yours, Harry
Dec. 2, 2005, 3:28 p.m. CST
Oh snap! After thinking about this for a while, it makes so much sense. Guillermo del Toro may infact direct Bungie’s Halo! Think about this now…both Peter Jackson and del Toro have horror backgrounds and have both done action-esque films. Mind you, WETA Workshop has worked with del Toro in the past with the very cool ‘Hellboy’. And in Harry’s article he says that the pick would be a geeks dream. Now I am just adding one plus one here…but I feel like I am on to something.
Dec. 2, 2005, 3:49 p.m. CST
Harry’s Kong Review Redux
Naturally the Kong review will be nowhere near objective. I just can’t wait to hear how he describes the joy he felt…remember, this is a man who compared watching a movie to performing oral sex. My mind boggles when I think of the metaphors he might use…oh, sweet Baby Christ, I can’t wait to read it. I am secretly hoping that he compares the joy of seeing Kong to the joy of losing his virginity.
Dec. 2, 2005, 3:59 p.m. CST
Yeah, you better apologize, that’s like bringing somebody’s mother into it. I was ready to tell you Frodo was a pussy and Merlin was a fraud for sending a bunch of hobbits to spend a trilogy doing a job that his giant eagle buddy could’ve done in five minutes. Anyway bud, here’s the problem. All the stuff you’re saying about Spike Lee, I don’t think it’s true, but who knows. I never met the dude in person, never followed him around and haven’t seen too many interviews with him in years. What I do know is his movies have nothing to do with the bullshit you’re talking about. Have you ever seen one of his movies? Which one? I think the idea of any of his movies being “racist propaganda” is obvious utter hore shit that nobody who actually watched, say, Do the Right Thing or Malcolm X could really believe. But more importantly man, that was when he had a handful of movies. That was years ago. Most of his movies aren’t even about race. Have you heard of Mo Better Blues? Crooklyn? Summer of Sam? 25th Hour? Girl 6? Clockers? Original Kings of Comedy? He Got Game? And his next one is about a bank robbery. Even if you look at the ones that you could say are about race – I mean, Get On the Bus isn’t about white people. Four Little Girls wouldn’t offend anybody unless they were into bombing churches. Bamboozled – I honestly think it’s his worst movie, but come on, do you actually disagree with what the movie is saying? I don’t, I just think it’s a badly put together movie that wastes a great satirical premise and I think it actually kind of wimps out by using the minstrel show metaphor instead of naming names of who in modern entertainment he’s criticizing. Even still I think I ought to watch it again some time, because maybe I’m wrong. And I got a pretty good hunch maybe you also are wrong, but maybe a little more wrong than me, in my opinion. (p.s. Die Hard rules)
Dec. 2, 2005, 4:02 p.m. CST
Black guys & diversity?
That’s kinda funny, ’cause the only diversity and racial equality that most of the black guys I know care about is fucking a white chick.
Dec. 2, 2005, 4:31 p.m. CST
“Ain’t it Updated? News”?
Dec. 2, 2005, 4:31 p.m. CST
“Actually, the slaves were bought — from black tribes. Who sold
But then that’s not really the point, is it? The point is, the slaves had their backgrounds erased. I guess the whole peace thing is lost on you too.
Dec. 2, 2005, 4:44 p.m. CST
Sarah Silverman is weak.
Her act is forced, she’s okay looking, and her attempt at hey, I’m cute and Jewish, which entitles me to be racist and make fun of the Holocaust, as she has been on Politically Incorrect, is absurd. Why, with so many talented comediens out there is this idiot getting a release? You got me! It’s a damn shame.
Dec. 2, 2005, 5:18 p.m. CST
by Childe Roland
Did ringbearer just assert that David Berkowitz, a white Jewish serial killer (who was actually the child of Italian Catholics, if memory serves) was used by Spike Lee to demonize all white people in Summer of Sam? I mean seriously? That was the assertion? Did your dog give you that one, ringbearer? For the record, most serial killers are white males. And who did the Son of Sam primarily target? If it were handsome black males, I might be inclined to entertain your thesis, but it wasn’t. It was adolescent girls and young couples. The fear was a unifying thing. It didn’t discriminate. You have issues, man. serious issues. You’re an angry fella. Relax. Nobody wants to hurt you or threaten your way of life. It’s just a movie.
Dec. 2, 2005, 5:41 p.m. CST
The depiction of Italien Almericans in “Summer of Sam” was offen
First of all, it was a horrible mess of a film. The Berkowitz scenes were ripped off from Fincher’s work in “Seven”. Bad acting, writing, directing, everything. But the Italian guys are basically stuck saying “Hey Tony, Are You the Son of Sam?”. For a guy who whines about how Blacks are treated in films he made Italians look like idiots.
Dec. 2, 2005, 5:41 p.m. CST
very funny, ringbearer
Ha ha, I thought you were serious before and wasted my time responding to you. Boy you really got me. Way to go man. By the way check out “jewish” David Berkowitz’s web sight, which is all about Jesus: http://www.forgivenforlife.com/
Dec. 2, 2005, 5:49 p.m. CST
Well of course Vern…
by Neo Zeed
How can you take anyone who hated Die Hard seriously?
Dec. 2, 2005, 7:12 p.m. CST
Off The Topic
How the fuck can a convincted killer be permitted to have Internet access, much less a web-site? Is this guy in prison, or a luxury hotel? This sick bastard murdered people without remorse (with apparently great relish, in fact). I remember the real “Summer of Sam” (I was a kid growing up on Long Island at the time). Berkowitz does not deserve to have luxuries and privelages. What about justice for the victims and their families? It is outrageous.
Dec. 2, 2005, 8:38 p.m. CST
that’s “convicted”, not “convincted”, amongst others…
Dec. 2, 2005, 10:15 p.m. CST
Die Hard is a freaking masterpiece.
The best American action film ever! The acting (the relationship between Willis and Bedelia is the best written i’ve ever seen in an action flick)writing, directing. Everything is first rate. It’s been copied so much that it loses some of it’s bite if you see it now for the first time, but i’ll never forget how blown away I was in the summer of 88′ watching it.
Dec. 3, 2005, 1:41 a.m. CST
My Grandfather Owned Slaves.
Boy, he used to just beat the SHIT out of ’em too, man. Now he’s just too goddamn old. So he calls them and harrasses them. “Get back to work!” he hollers feebly into the phone. It is hilarious, but it’s very awkward because I hang out with his old slaves now and sometimes he calls when I’m at their house. How do you guys handle that situation?
Dec. 3, 2005, 4:37 a.m. CST
no dice Anchorite
The internet may be blind, but YOU still look retarded spewing that racist bullshit and then trying to play it off as ironic pre-postmodernism. So it’s possible even with today’s limited technology. Anyway bud I’m not trying to argue with you, you already know you’re wrong so back out with a few flakes of honor still in your pockets and just think about what you’ve done and try to improve yourself. That’s all you can ever really do is try to do better next time. Apologizing never hurt anybody either but I don’t foresee you learning that any time soon.
Dec. 3, 2005, 7:48 a.m. CST
I don’t give a damn about Spike Lee’s politics
by Drunken Rage
he just makes consistently shitty movies. And Sarah Silverman is no great shakes, either comedically or aesthetically.
Dec. 3, 2005, 12:29 p.m. CST
Italian-Americans treated badly by Spike Lee?
Nah. Since Italians (especially Italia-Americans) are basically just light-skinned black people, it’s just another case of blacks hating on blacks. Has anyone checked out the Italian groove lately? C’mon man, those people are wantin’ to be niggaz in the worst way. Growing up Gotti? That’s it in a nutshell. The stylin’clothes, the gold, the loudness. Hey man, can’t we all just get along – especially when we’re all standing in the unemployment line?
Dec. 3, 2005, 1:14 p.m. CST
Not falling for it again. I know there’s alot of crazy shit in this world but there aren’t really people who believe Spike Lee made SUMMER OF SAM as a secret code to show that white jews have a genetic flaw (?) that makes them emotionless and turns them into killers and, whatever the other gibberish was. It was a good joke man, don’t run it into the ground. (my favorite touch was how you kept accusing Spike Lee and black people in general of believing in conspiracy theories, and then pretended to believe THAT. Beautiful.) By the way, SUMMER OF SAM is not a slice of life story about black people, it’s about Italians. The main characters are John Leguizamo, Mira Sorvino and Adrien Brody. You should look up the plot summaries first to sell the jokes better. Good job though otherwise bud thanks again.
Dec. 4, 2005, 6:11 p.m. CST
anchortite you were thouroughly chooled by flufyy, Tony and Vern
increasignly insubstantial arguments a rest? You are a dick with stupid views that really don’t deserve such net time. Ah well nevermind.
Dec. 5, 2005, 4:52 a.m. CST
Spike Lee is a NEGRO!!!!
by Darth Bono Jr.
There. I said it.
Dec. 6, 2005, 2:47 a.m. CST
Spike, Sarah, Talkbackers and Dykes
No, nothing about dykes. That was just a play on the title of the John Pierson book.
It’s funny, because I truly dislike most of Spike Lee’s work, and from his television appearances, I get the impression that he is an intolerable, but the arguments against him from most of you here about his alleged politics are pathetically transparent indicators of your own racism. So, even though I disagree with Vern as to the man’s talents, I have to say to him again–you rock.
But you’re wrong about Silverman too. Her act is not just about shock value, as you seem to acknowledge in your review. But like you, I’m surprised that her act generates less controversy here than some Spike Lee failed pilot that no one bitching him out here has actually seen. People do seem to be a little upset that she A) has sex with Jimmy Kimmel and B) is Jewish/not really that attractive (to which I say, open your damn eyes).
I admire Lee’s ambition at least. He is trying to say something provocative about the world we live in, unlike most filmmakers. He has never written a convincing female character, and most of his films degenerate into some kind of annoying, overlong, confused coda by the end, but he keeps plugging away. The finest moments in his filmmaking career are Do the Right Thing, obviously, and the opening credit sequence of Clockers. His nadir was turning Malcolm X’s story into the Spike Lee show, complete with a pointless musical number, I guess to show that he had learned how to direct one since School Daze.
Dec. 6, 2005, 2:48 a.m. CST
“intolerable blowhard,” I meant to say.
Oct. 21, 2007, 10:05 a.m. CST