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Vern has seen STARSHIP TROOPERS 2

Hey folks, Harry here… I’m so envious of Vern… he’s seen STARSHIP TROOPERS 2 – and while I know it was shot for 3 shiny canadian loons, I can’t help but hope it has more pretty people with vacant eyes being torn to shreds by big bugs! I can hope… right? Here he is…

Dear fellas,

As promised back when I reviewed WILD THINGS 2: DARK TERRITORY, I have returned with a review of STARSHIP TROOPERS 2: HERO OF THE FEDERATION, a much better straight to video sequel in my opinion. But that’s not saying much. But it’s okay though.

This part 2 is directed by Mr. Phil Tippett, the special effects genius who worked on such other part 2s as STAR WARS part 2, INDIANA JONES part 2, ROBOCOP part 2 and HOUSE part 2. He was also “demon supervisor” on THE GOLDEN CHILD part 1. He has his own studio which did some of the effects in BLADE part 2, in case any of the talkbackers were wondering how I was gonna work that one into this review.

Anyway more importantly Mr. Tippett did the effects for the first STARSHIP TROOPERS and he has also brought back the same writer, Ed “I also did ROBOCOP” Neumeier. So we’ve got some of the same people involved, even if we’re missing the crucial ingredient of Paul Verhoeven, perverted Dutchman.

Starship Troopers 2: Hero of the FederationThe story though is scaled way down, obviously. It starts with a big bug battle like in the original, only this time it has a real “yep, you got us, we shot this in a basement in Vancouver” feel to it. Like they got 4 people huddled together trying to pretend they’re a crowd of hundreds. It feels pretty cheap and reminds you of how epic Verhoeven’s picture was, going between a futuristic Earth, various war zone planets and big space battles. Especially since they use a couple clips from the original movie in the opening propaganda reel.

Luckily the cheapie feel goes away when a group of soldiers holes up in an abandoned outpost with a broken radio. This is obviously a set they spent more time building, because they had read the script and knew that was where the whole movie takes place. The troopers are surrounded by the same giant bugs they shot so many of last time around, so you’re thinking okay, this is going to be an ASSAULT ON PRECINCT 13 type deal – in other words, NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD with gangsters instead of zombies. Only with giant bugs instead of gangsters instead of zombies.

But soon Tippett and Neumeier throw you in a whole different John Carpenter direction, more of a THE THING type deal. Especially if by THE THING you mean PITCH BLACK + THE HIDDEN and/or MIMIC. I don’t want to give anything away, but I will because what the fuck else am I going to write about. It turns out that one of the soldiers actually has a small bug inside his brain controlling him, and before long these bugs are crawling down everybody’s throats trying to infiltrate the federation troopers and what not.

The reason I mentioned PITCH BLACK is because inside the outpost the soldiers find a dude named Captain Dax locked inside a furnace with the word “MURDERER” painted on the outside. Which in my opinion looks pretty bad. But he explains this is only because he strangled some corporal to death. That’s all. So they let him out to help them fight off the bugs and of course he and a gal, I don’t know her name but she is partly psychic because she is pregnant (long story), they are the main bugfighters in this picture. So it leaves you with many questions to mull over, such as “Which one of these two is the ‘hero of the federation’, I wonder?”

Dax is real honorable and crap so he “gives his word as a man” instead of as an officer. See, he’s “turned his back on the federation” because he’s tired of sending kids off to get chopped in half or brainfucked by giant bugs in an endless, fruitless, meaningless war. If you ask me, Dax has a point. Have you ever tried to go outside and kill all the bees? It just won’t work. You just can’t wipe out bugs. No matter how many bugs you kill, there will always be more bugs. Trying to blow up every last bug would be like trying to blow up the concept of terrorism. As much as we all hate terrorism and giant bugs, it’s time to start looking for solutions other than KA-BOOOOM!

You know how they could stop this war with the bugs? By leaving! What the fuck are they doing flying around to barren planets and bothering a bunch of giant bugs? They’re kicking a hornet’s nest. They should just go home and play that cool version of football they have where they do flips. Or have some more co-ed showers. Mind their own business and the bugs will mind theirs, I bet.

I know, I know, in the first movie there was that giant bug that farted a meteor at the earth and destroyed all of Buenos Aires. Or at least, that’s what the TV told us. I always figured it was bullshit. I don’t believe in farting space bugs. There never were any weapons of ass destruction, to quote a famous porno title.

See, that’s the main area where this part 2 is really lacking. It doesn’t have as much of that great satiric tone that only Verhoeven has the skill and/or balls to pull off. It seems much more serious about its sci-fi/horror plot, and when serious things are happening, it doesn’t seem sarcastic, like it would if Verhoeven did it. There are definitely times where I got into it, but that wasn’t as fun as the big stupid grin I had all through Verhoeven’s movie. Some of the actors in this one don’t have much of a presence, but you don’t get the feeling they were cast that way on purpose, like in the original. This one just isn’t very funny. And the new way the bugs are fighting the humans is so different that it almost seems like it should be a different movie instead of a sequel. I liked how you really had no idea what the bugs were thinking or trying to do, other than they liked to cut people into pieces and that the Doogie Howser guy said they were scared at the end. This time, they sometimes put their thoughts into human words, which kind of ruins it. Then they just become your standard evil aliens.

But that’s not to say there’s none of that Verhoeven spirit in there, because that would be a god damn lie. There is a bit of the corny propaganda to open and close the picture, declaring “TOTAL WAR” against the bugs in a new operation known as “the Bush doctrine of pre-emption”, or something like that, I can’t remember what they called it in the movie. And while Dax’s anti-military comments are a little too “on the nose” as they say, they do set up for a good ironic ending.

What makes this movie worth watching though is I guess what you oughta expect from Mr. Tippett: This movie has some good effects. I’m pretty sure they are the best ever in a straight to video type sequel. Yes there are some of the old giant bugs and some people get torn in half and what not, but the real fun comes later on when bugs crawl into people’s mouths or out of their heads. There’s at least one puppet. There’s a rubber severed head that has a computer animated bug crawl out of its mouth – a little bit of country, a little bit of rock n roll. There’s some good gunshot to the head business, throatslashing, finger chopping, some good ol’ dismemberment – always a treat. It’s not as ridiculously violent as the original, but it’s arguably more disgusting. Good job Tippett. Plus there are some boobs, which I know are popular.

The story and characters of this picture are not at all memorable, but there is definitely some imagination involved in the horrible things that happen to these troopers. I would say this is a well above average straight to video sequel, but not on the level of a real sequel. So if you can get into that, have at it. It comes out on June 1st. Remember, service guarantees citizenship.

Confidential to Heinlein nerds: no, there is no magic robot power suit or whatever it is you say the book was about. You may begin whining now.

My name is Vern and I approved this review.

Originally posted at Aint-It-Cool-News: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/17257

View the archived Ain’t-It-Cool-News Talkback

  • March 25, 2004, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Weapons?

    by phlemwhore

    of ASS destruction?

  • March 25, 2004, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Huh?

    by jimmychitwood

    all I have to say is, huh…what did i just read…o yea, and the bugs are the sexiest tomboy beanpoles on the planet….

  • March 25, 2004, 1:41 p.m. CST

    If Doogie Howser S.S. ain’t in it, I don’t want to see it!

    by Drath

    teeny bopper nazis are what the first movie was ALL ABOUT! If I want to watch Starship Troopers trying to be serious I’ll dig up the Roughnecks TV show!

  • March 25, 2004, 1:45 p.m. CST

    This will be on the Action Channel next month

    by NiceMarmot

    ..which I guess technically makes it a direct-to-cable movie.

  • March 25, 2004, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Straight to video sequels

    by pants malone

    I love all these crappy sequels, but when are we getting Hudson Hawk 2:Hawk Harder?

  • March 25, 2004, 1:47 p.m. CST

    PLANT!

    by MiserableRainGod

    If I was gonna write a plant review of a direct-to-video crapfest, how would it look?….EXACTLY LIKE THIS! Come on…can any real reviewer ever write this much about even a GOOD movie? Here’s the gist of this review: “It’s cheap and direct to video, but you should really watch it because it’s actually pretty good.” PLANT!

  • March 25, 2004, 1:55 p.m. CST

    Garbage

    by Damer1

    This looks horrible… Really bad. Almost as bad as the first movie.

  • March 25, 2004, 2:07 p.m. CST

    This is terrible…

    by DocPazuzu

    …it would seem the sequel completely negates the point of the first one. In the original, it was implied that humans were the aggressors and that the bugs were defending themselves, but that it didn’t matter because, well, they’re BUGS. This was best illustrated in that news clip with an arrow indicating where Earth was (at one end of the galaxy) and another pointing out Klendathu (at the opposite end of the galaxy). Of COURSE the bugs were afraid — they were being attacked by a crazy army of fascist mammals! Oh, and anyone who didn’t pick up on the satire of the first film is officially an idiot. Looks like the same assheads who hated or didn’t grok the original are being catered to by the creators of this cretinous clusterfuck.

  • March 25, 2004, 2:22 p.m. CST

    Heinlein Raped Again

    by Citizen2112

    My fellow Alum from USNA gets no respect. The original book wasn’t so much for the “Cool Metal Super Suit” as the views on the future of society in general. The most relevant parts happen in boot camp as well as the flashbacks to the classroom. And part 2, give me a fucking break. Just make it a new movie, a new series, or another shitty Enterprise plot…damn.

  • March 25, 2004, 2:32 p.m. CST

    What an odd review.

    by rev_skarekroe

    sk

  • March 25, 2004, 2:32 p.m. CST

    “My name is Vern and I approved this review.”

    by Mockingbird Girl

    Thanks for the chuckle, Vern!

  • March 25, 2004, 2:32 p.m. CST

    great review Vern

    by Mr Brownstone

    hilarious from begining to end. keep em coming man.

  • March 25, 2004, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Screw STARSHIP TROOPERS. Someone needs to make John Steakley’s A

    by Mister Pink

    ARMOR is a WAY better sci-fi giant bug fighting story with better characters. It’s way overdue for a movie treatment.

  • March 25, 2004, 3:01 p.m. CST

    I’ve actually Seen Weapons of A$$ Destruction!!!

    by KenKRK

    Porn Rules!

  • March 25, 2004, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Anyone else ever get the feeling…

    by Anti-fanboy

    that Verhoeven is actually playing everything straight, as far as he’s concerned, and that we’re the only ones that think it’s SUPPOSED to be so melodramatically cheesy, and satirical, etc…? Very disturbing feeling.

  • March 25, 2004, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Mister Pink

    by Pulzar711

    I agree! Armor is great… my PB copy is about to fall apart. [Highly recommended to all SF geeks!] I doubt Hollywood could ever do it justice tho…. esp in the casting of poor ol’ Felix. And the powersuits would end up looking like ass. Oh well…

  • March 25, 2004, 3:41 p.m. CST

    anti-fanboy

    by AZJim

    Hey,

    If you listen to the very amusing, defensive director’s commentary on Starship Troopers, you will hear that Verhoeven insists that is a satire.

    As for Vern, I will never see 2/3 of the movies he reviews, but he is still a great read–whipsmart and funny as hell. He makes me proud to be an American.

  • March 25, 2004, 4:12 p.m. CST

    DocPazuzu

    by Vern

    Doc, don’t despair. Although as I said the satire is not as prevalent in this part 2, I don’t think it violates part 1. The Federation is still the aggressor, because they are “taking the fight to the bugs.” There is no reason to believe the bugs would be a threat if everybody just went home. I really do think it was a deliberate parallel with the Bush doctrine of pre-emptive kill everybody insanity. The problem is that the main story of fighting the bugs does not tie directly into this theme, it is only the setup. Still, there is definitely stuff in there you will like. I didn’t want to give away the ending, because in case somebody actually DOES see this movie I gotta leave SOMETHING for them to enjoy. But I definitely feel the ending is in the spirit of the original. Thanks Ed Neumeier.

  • March 25, 2004, 5:35 p.m. CST

    Vern, you so topical!

    by where_are_quints_hobbit_set_reports

    Good review. Glad to hear there’s more nudity, too. I want to know if there’s anything as wonderfully homo-S&M as that whipping scene in the first one. What a great flick that was.

  • March 25, 2004, 6:05 p.m. CST

    quinlan troopers 2

    by hank quinlan

    I loved the first movie. It’s a modern, misunderstood classic. The fact that it operates on so many levels (ironic commentary on fascism, blockbuster action, propoganda, campy war movie, soap opera, satire) is amazing. It’s soooo much fun. I will check this out. Fuck it. Can’t be worse then a lot of what gets foisted on us. Also, isn’t Kelly Clarkson in there somewhere?

  • March 25, 2004, 6:25 p.m. CST

    Vern

    by DocPazuzu

    Thanks for the heads up (as well as the review). Your post has piqued my interest in actually seeing the film now.

  • March 25, 2004, 7:30 p.m. CST

    Make it a SciFi movie-of-the week? Huh?

    by vhsiv

    Trust me – those guys over at Skiffy don’t know science-fiction from a hole in their heads. If they touched it, they’d have killed it – and it certainly wouldn’t be the ‘TV-MA’ fare that they’re going to broadcast.

    Thank G-d for small favors…

  • March 25, 2004, 7:40 p.m. CST

    Terrorism solutions other than “ka-booom”…

    by DouglasAH

    1) Knuckle under and all forcibly convert to Islam just because some fucking caveman says so. 2) See #1. Personally, I say, a world in which we “ka-booom” some bad guys now and then, and they “ka-booom” us occasionally when they’re not running like bitches from our special forces, is a better place to live than a world ruled by some dipshit clerics.

  • March 25, 2004, 8:27 p.m. CST

    But is it as good as “The Hitcher II”? Or “Ginger Snaps II”?

    by Johnny Ahab

    WHO NEEDS TO SEE SEQUELS TO ANY OF THESE FILMS???

  • March 25, 2004, 9:34 p.m. CST

    Like LOTR and it’s eagles which could have saved them a shit loa

    by TheGinger Twit

  • March 25, 2004, 11:41 p.m. CST

    Starship Troopers

    by JackieJokeman

    I’ve heard nerds suggesting that the asteroid in the film was either sent by the Federation or was a run-of-the-mill non-bug-farted type asteroid used by the Federation for a pretext for war. I mean how could Bugs shoot a big ass rock at Earth anyway? Answer: Instead of a direct answer question for you, pal. How could a bug fart plasma into space to blow up ships? While we’re at it, Aren’t the Bugs at least as militaristic as the Honky Earthlings? Shit, they even evolve weapons into their own asses.

  • March 25, 2004, 11:44 p.m. CST

    I never understood the Federation’s tactics…

    by vudufixit

    It’s as if they never heard of offshore bombardment.

    Yes, transatmospheric craft are used in strafing and other tactical ground support roles, but the Federation could easily just pummel Klandathu and other bug-infested worlds at standoff distances and use ground troops for minor mopups and occupation.

  • March 25, 2004, 11:51 p.m. CST

    anti-fanboy you’re absolutely right!

    by alchemist

    Maybe Verhoven’s really a hack and Paul W.S. Anderson’s actually a brilliant satirist…. I’m convined that the part of Spence in Resident Evil was cast so that the empty glare in his eyes represents how helpless America felt in the wake of the Zombie menace, which represents communism. Fuck man, see that’s why they shouldn’t have had me write all those essays in high school….

  • March 26, 2004, 12:46 a.m. CST

    should’ve been called Space Marines…

    by Arioch2112

    Please, Hollywood… Leave such great SciFi novels alone. Drop any further plans to bastardize RAH or OSC (aka Ender’s Game). You’ll never get it right if you keep re-inventing the wheel when the wheel’s been done. If a book is good enough to drive you to make a movie about it, THEN MAKE THE MOVIE FROM THE PHREAKING BOOK!!! At least the Rock’s latest offering is getting a little closer to the truth by touting ‘inspired by…’ instead of ‘based on…’ which is a lie.

  • March 26, 2004, 3:54 a.m. CST

    Beautiful work there Vern, and Food for Thought

    by irritable

    Does Terrorists = bugs imply Rumsfield = Mortein? (Just askin’)

  • March 26, 2004, 4:10 a.m. CST

    Links

    by BlackBeltJones

    There are links to every movie up there except Weapons of A$$ Destruction. Harry, its too late to get morals now. Besides, we would much rather have links to porn than links to Amazon.

    The Belt Has Spoken!

  • March 26, 2004, 5:02 a.m. CST

    Yeah that’s right…not..

    by Lion Fire

    Yeah they should just leave them alone and go back to earth and live like left wing hippies. Oh wait.. they can’t.. Because more than likely the bugs will blow up more cities just like Beunos Aries in the first one. Duh you dumb fuck duh. Whoever wrote this review is a fuckwad.

  • March 26, 2004, 5:10 a.m. CST

    “Beunos Aries” that’s clever

    by irritable

    Tres ironic. Love your work, dewd.

  • March 26, 2004, 7:12 a.m. CST

    Poor Phil Tippet

    by I Dunno

    He was the man until they “retired” him and his puppetry half way through making Jurrassic Park when the computer nerds took over. Now he’s reduced to this.

  • March 26, 2004, 9:08 a.m. CST

    I have this strange urge to buy a ton of bad movies from amazon.

    by JRo

    Subtle. Real subtle you greedy loser.

  • March 26, 2004, 1:02 p.m. CST

    I agree with Mister Pink. Make Steakley’s Armor into a movie!

    by WarDog

    Goddammit,if Whorywood is so fucking chickenshit and unimaginative that they have to make sequel after unneeded sequel, getting worse with each iteration, why the hell don’t they look for some else original but similar to what was a success beforehand (even if they perverted RAH’s classic novel–DAMN you to HELL, Ed Neumeier!) Armor would be perfect. But I suppose like most science fiction, Whorywood is largely unaware. Actually, that’s a good thing in the long run, because when they get their slimy mitts on the rights to a literary work, they almost always fuck it up. I am not seeing that P.O.S. _I, Robot_. Will Smith has let being a star in SF movies go to his head.

  • March 26, 2004, 3:07 p.m. CST

    fucking stupid talkbackers…..

    by Blok Narpin

    WHO THE FUCK CARES IF THERE ARE LINKS TO AMAZON.COM? WHY does this bother you freaks? Are you so weak minded that you feel compelled to purchase everything Harry links to? I really don’t get it. Not even a little. So there are links to Amazon….WHO CARES? Why does it matter?? ARGH.

  • March 26, 2004, 4:16 p.m. CST

    Blork Napkin: Why those Amazon links matter …

    by Creamery Butter

    Those Amazon links are bad, and here’s why: When a reviewer starts throwing in a dozen references to movies, and all references are directly linked to someplace where you can buy ’em, and by buying them the linker gets a coupla bucks, then one starts to wonder if the references are there because they enrich and enhance the review, or if they’re there just to make a quick coupla bucks. As long as there is the faintest suspicion that the links are there for the latter reason, then the validity of the entire review is questioned. “If the references to other films are in there for the purpose of commerce, not information or art, then how can I know that the rest of the review is honest and free of influence? Perhaps the review itself was written in exchange for some kind of kickbacks. If it was, and there is no proof to indicate otherwise, how can I be sure that anything on this site was written without kickbacks in mind?” and so on. Y’see where we’re coming from, Napkin? Maybe it’s overly cynical, but have you noticed the times we’re living in?

  • March 26, 2004, 8:03 p.m. CST

    re: the Amazon links

    by jollysleeve

    Yeah, the Amazon links are distracting as hell. I even felt compelled to complain about them in another Vern article. But don’t blame Vern for them, as I’m sure it was the site owner’s idea. It pisses me off though, because I think those links take away from the article they’re in. Look, I honestly don’t mind it if Harry occassionally devotes whole articles to DVD recommendations with all kinds of Amazon links in them. But I wish he’d leave them out of the regular articles. Or at least pare them down a bit, so we don’t have 50 different product links within a one-paragraph block. That just looks desperate.

  • March 26, 2004, 8:06 p.m. CST

    PS

    by jollysleeve

    Oh yeah, and Vern is definitely my favorite reviewer on this site. His reviews are usually pretty clever and funny. I just wish he’d update his site more…..lazy bastard.

  • March 27, 2004, 1:23 a.m. CST

    jollysleeve

    by AZJim

    Damn straight. Vern needs to hit us with his take on the world more than once every couple of months. Or he cannot be my hero.

  • March 27, 2004, 2:56 a.m. CST

    Re: AZJim

    by jollysleeve

    Yeah, the Vern Tells It rants are entertaining as hell. I’ve even considered ordering one of the T-shirts.

  • March 27, 2004, 7:44 a.m. CST

    Remake the “original” instead. Ridley Scott style.

    by krylite

    The first one took away the book’s merits. Most new “readers” will just remember Starship Troopers just for the dumb moronic movie.

  • March 27, 2004, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Envious? Dumb mutts, you can download ST2 everywhere.

    by SalvatoreGravano

    It’s been out for over a month. And it’s sh|t, even worse than the first one.

    http://ircspy.com/search.asp

  • March 27, 2004, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Hey, Changeling, if you like giving oral pleasure to old hairy m

    by SalvatoreGravano

    …”Electric Boogaloo” again, and use it together with “Hulk Hogan” in one sentence, on any talkback.

  • March 27, 2004, 5:34 p.m. CST

    If there are boobs…

    by Rupee88

    …then I’m there.

  • March 28, 2004, 6:43 a.m. CST

    Hey TBers, here’s the link you REALLY want

    by earthworm_

    http://excaliburfilms.com/AdultDVD/dvd_107814D1.htm A public service announcement from the earthworm.

  • March 28, 2004, 11:47 a.m. CST

    Vern does not understand demographics.

    by FluffyUnbound

    Demographics are destiny. If it were, in fact, possible to colonize additional worlds across interstellar distances, there is only room for one species with this ability per galaxy, in the long run. We have to exterminate the bugs or they have to exterminate us. It’s very simple. And you can’t just say, Hey, the bugs aren’t bothering us that much now – you have to consider the possibility that they ultimately might. There can safely be only one occupant of the ecological niche “intelligence”. Ask the neanderthals. So actually maybe Starship Troopers is a good metaphor for the “war” on terrorism. Although I personally would prefer a world shared by several distinct, well-defined and antagonistic culture groups, I would have to concede that in utilitarian terms this is simply not the best outcome, because at our level of technology it’s radically unsafe. There can be only one world culture, if your standard of value is the safety or well-being of the population over the long term [long-term being defined as 100-200 years in this case]. The other cultures just have to go, and that means violent confrontation with the more militant representatives of the cultures slated for extinction. The fact that aesthetically I have a problem with this outcome may matter to ME, but I can understand that it doesn’t matter to our political elites, who understandably have different priorities.

  • March 28, 2004, 8:48 p.m. CST

    I can’t believe how many dumbasses didn’t understand this film.

    by El_Barstardo

    The reason why the federation didn’t blow up the bug planets, or bomb them the the shizenhower, was because they wanted to study them. Pay attention to the start of the film, especially the lesson with the blind teacher where she is talking about the bugs. She speaks of them as if she were in awe of them. The idea the film is pointing at is that the bug society is the ultimate fascist society. The federation wanted the bugs alive so they could study them and learn from them. There are MANY instances in the film where the human society parallels that of the bugs. The federation sent the troops down there because they wanted samples of the greater hive mind (such as the brain bug) alive. Blowing the shit out of the planet doesn’t achieve that. As Doogie said, if a few thousand marines die, what the hell does the federation care? Less pentions to pay. The federation admires the bugs because they have developed the ultimate form of society that the federation itself is striving towards.

  • March 29, 2004, 12:54 a.m. CST

    God, what a piece of crap — worse than the 1st…

    by newscaper

    and THAT was an utter abomination, not just mangling, but deliberately, and unintelligently, mocking Heinlein’s thought-provoking work.

    Definitely an insult to anyone with half a brain who knew who RAH was and would find that name an incentive to plop an ass down in a seat for a few $$$s.

    I don’t understand why these Hollywood assholes buy up top-notch properties that (unfortunately) have limited name-recognition with the general public anyway, then proceed to screw them up beyond recognition, alienating those who should be the studio’s/director’s most ardent supporters.

    Fuckwits.

    I’m hoping Tim Minear (of Firefly fame with Whedon) gets his shot at RAH’s “The Moon is Harsh Mistress” and gets to do it justice.

  • March 29, 2004, 1:02 a.m. CST

    My God, i just read a few more talkbacks above!!

    by newscaper

    I’m not sure which is worse — idiot wannabe fanboys nitpicking the half-arsed “logic” of the shitty movies, totally ignorant of the thrust of the original novel…

    Or left-wingers who see it as an anti-VRWC allegory, also totally ignorant of the thrust of the original novel.

    I’m may be with the guy above who just asked Hollywood to just *please* leave the classics of SF literature alone.

  • March 29, 2004, 1 p.m. CST

    vudufixit – “I never understood the Federation’s tactics…”

    by mbeemer

    In the book they did not carpet bomb because troopers from earlier assaults were presumed held captive by the bugs. They didn’t want to kill their own guys – “Nobody gets left behind” was a deeply ingrained facet of their philosophy. (I will admit that begs the question of why they sent those first guys in instead of carpet bombing, but what canya do?…)

  • March 30, 2004, 2:34 a.m. CST

    On ACTION channel on April 24, 25, 28.

    by BrianSLA

    It is on ACTION channel ( part of the STARZ movie package ) on April 24, 25 & 28. See it for free. I wanna see it.

  • March 30, 2004, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Bad tactics? Nay

    by TS Thomas

    The Federation tactics might appear a bit odd a first, what with planetary bombardment being not shown initially (Not that lacking such confirmation is confirmation of lacking (Think about that a bit)). The answer lies in reality. Look at Afganhistan. They bombed the crap out of that place, while the Taliban/Al-Qaeda hid in the mountains. Did this mass bombardment kill them all? No, ground troops still went in & were met with stiff resistence. Ironically enough, US ground forces also sealed tunnel entrances with rockets (Same thing we see them do in Starship Troopers, albeit it without the mini-nukes). Orbital/Aerial bombardment is not much use if they aren’t on the surface. One other thing is that they severely underestimated the intelligence of the bugs, so some overconfidence on the military to send down the infantry & kill some stupid bugs isn’t too far fetched.

    The Klendathu Drop also is reminiscent of the D-Day landings anyway. Same story there, air bombardment failed pretty miserably, while the troops got slaughtered in the initial waves as they faced a much tougher enemy than intelligence led them to believe.

    Fantastic film really, one of the few films that’s actually increased in relevence as time has passed.

  • May 9, 2004, 7:39 a.m. CST

    Troopers 3D version glasses needed

    by lincon

    I thought i’d mention about “Starship Troopers Smoothnecks”

    There are 2 versions made, a normal version and a 3D version ( glasses needed )

    You can legally download them from

    www.superteam.biz

VERN has been reviewing movies since 1999 and is the author of the books SEAGALOGY: A STUDY OF THE ASS-KICKING FILMS OF STEVEN SEAGAL, YIPPEE KI-YAY MOVIEGOER!: WRITINGS ON BRUCE WILLIS, BADASS CINEMA AND OTHER IMPORTANT TOPICS and NIKETOWN: A NOVEL. His horror-action novel WORM ON A HOOK will arrive later this year.
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