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November 27, 2012 - 10:43 pm
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Hey everyone, this is a placeholder for discussion of the BADASSDb and related sites and using the related data here at outlawvern.com.


I will try to have a thorough discussion up tomorrow, for now I just wanted to get a link locked in for the page that shows the new Timelines.



December 7, 2012 - 4:46 am
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To further the studies of badass cinema I have created http://badassdb.com which handles Vern's reviews but is designed as a public site to offer up relevant information and serve as a source of information for other sites. The primary goal is film preservation: having full context information about the release of the movie, ways to view and more importantly own a copy, and important marketing materials. First and foremost the site has no editorial policy, there is no user-generated stuff like ratings or comments (see below for the caveat), it's all about objective information. The reason for this is two-fold: to encourage adoption of BADASSDb as the best source for definitive release information, and to encourage cooperation from studios and other businesses to provide detailed and exhaustive information to the public through marketing materials.

There are lots of good sources for movie (and television) information out there, and in this context obviously IMDb and BoxOfficeMojo are already there. However as much as I love Amazon both of these sites being controlled by the same retailer and business-focused entity means their mission is different. Yes, BADASSDb wants to give you ways to find and purchase films, but focused on the film itself not "related" stuff, out-of-context advertising or hiding certain information behind a paywall. Since IMDb began as a community project that was later commercialized, where do we have to turn for a site that is about the movies first?

In order to provide the information that is most important in terms of placing a film in the context of it's release I have set up only a small subset of information to get things started, those that I feel are most important for historical significance:

The Most Commonly Known U.S. Title
Title Sort
Title Differentiator (to separate movies released in the same year with identical titles)
Movie Type (Theatrical, DTV, TV Movie)
First Release Date (first date of a non-sales related showing including notes)
U.S. Wide Release Date
Release Poster
Release Trailer

Beyond this there is a lit of information to add. Being a curated site means picking just what is most important to set a baseline. If you have suggestions for any crucial information I missed please suggest it here or in the forum post I'll be linking.

The other helpful thing is that this community Vern has built has a number of regular writers of reviews for personal or professional sites. I'm hoping to engage those of you and build a community of regulars whose reviews will be linked at BADASSDb as well. If you are willing to get involved it would be very helpful to be able to launch with more than a few places people can go to find reviews that aren't a part of established media sites.

There's a lot more to talk about. DVD, Blu-ray and streaming releases marked with whether they meet collector needs: aspect ratio, trailer and poster inclusion. Three tiered genre labeling: single master genre as used in physical video stores, dual genre label (romantic comedy, sci-fi action) and modern infinite genre labels. Above-the-line, below-the-line talent. Financial information. All of these things are important and I'd love help designing the parameters.

BADASSDb will also have a public API. Like TechCrunch's CrunchBase, any movie could have an embed from BADASSDb that serves up details, a poster even the trailer. Other APIs will be available for navigation such as next movie by title or release date. I think a tablet app for reading Vern's reviews would be great, here's how it starts.

But none of this can truly succeed in a vacuum. I am asking for help in designing and providing content for BADASSDb.

I'll be introducing the companion sites soon: BADASSZone for news and user interaction, and BADASSJoint, the hangout and ulterior motive.

Thanks again to Vern for letting me be a part of his presence here on the web, and congratulations on over 1,700 reviews since 1999. GOTT DAMM that's a lot of fucking movies!

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