Comments on: Find Me Guilty http://outlawvern.com/2010/04/13/find-me-guilty/ Vern's writings on the films of cinema Sat, 11 Feb 2012 22:31:39 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: The Limey http://outlawvern.com/2010/04/13/find-me-guilty/#comment-28641 The Limey Thu, 15 Apr 2010 13:37:30 +0000 http://outlawvern.com/?p=7101#comment-28641 I think we should all remember Vin Diesel's turns in both Saving Private Ryan and Iron Giant. Don't discount the Diesel. I think we should all remember Vin Diesel’s turns in both Saving Private Ryan and Iron Giant.

Don’t discount the Diesel.

]]> By: ebonic_plague http://outlawvern.com/2010/04/13/find-me-guilty/#comment-28588 ebonic_plague Thu, 15 Apr 2010 05:41:14 +0000 http://outlawvern.com/?p=7101#comment-28588 So it looks like the woman who accused Seagal of sex slavery might be full of shit. Apparently she was on the Tyra Banks show about a year ago talking about her ability to manipulate and trick men into getting her way. There's a quick clip of it on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTum0Y_BVOM&feature=related In the meantime, they shut down production on his show until it's resolved, I guess. http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/04/14/steven.seagal.sued/index.html?hpt=T2 Unless criminal charges are filed against him, I tend to think Seagal is most likely not a sex slaver. But I do wonder if any of this will spill over into the next season of Lawman. So it looks like the woman who accused Seagal of sex slavery might be full of shit. Apparently she was on the Tyra Banks show about a year ago talking about her ability to manipulate and trick men into getting her way. There’s a quick clip of it on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTum0Y_BVOM&feature=related

In the meantime, they shut down production on his show until it’s resolved, I guess. http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/04/14/steven.seagal.sued/index.html?hpt=T2

Unless criminal charges are filed against him, I tend to think Seagal is most likely not a sex slaver. But I do wonder if any of this will spill over into the next season of Lawman.

]]> By: hamslime http://outlawvern.com/2010/04/13/find-me-guilty/#comment-28548 hamslime Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:00:12 +0000 http://outlawvern.com/?p=7101#comment-28548 Vin Diesel was pimp in Boiler Room as well. In fact, I believe everyone and everything about Boiler Room was pimp. Except Scott Caan. That guy bugs me. Vin Diesel was pimp in Boiler Room as well. In fact, I believe everyone and everything about Boiler Room was pimp. Except Scott Caan. That guy bugs me.

]]> By: MDM http://outlawvern.com/2010/04/13/find-me-guilty/#comment-28529 MDM Wed, 14 Apr 2010 19:26:17 +0000 http://outlawvern.com/?p=7101#comment-28529 Mr. Majestyk- By virtue of my job as well, I could second the sentiment on Barney Miller and cops. Mr. Majestyk-

By virtue of my job as well, I could second the sentiment on Barney Miller and cops.

]]> By: edc http://outlawvern.com/2010/04/13/find-me-guilty/#comment-28520 edc Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:12:25 +0000 http://outlawvern.com/?p=7101#comment-28520 Vern: maybe he got a taste for sex trafficking after the movie, like how Dolph lundgren killed those ninjas after making punisher. Vern:
maybe he got a taste for sex trafficking after the movie, like how Dolph lundgren killed those ninjas after making punisher.

]]> By: Mr. Majestyk http://outlawvern.com/2010/04/13/find-me-guilty/#comment-28505 Mr. Majestyk Wed, 14 Apr 2010 16:10:13 +0000 http://outlawvern.com/?p=7101#comment-28505 MDM: Wow. I never would have guessed. It's like when cops are asked what the most realistic police show is and they say Barney Miller. Which they do, I hear. MDM: Wow. I never would have guessed. It’s like when cops are asked what the most realistic police show is and they say Barney Miller. Which they do, I hear.

]]> By: Dana King http://outlawvern.com/2010/04/13/find-me-guilty/#comment-28504 Dana King Wed, 14 Apr 2010 16:07:10 +0000 http://outlawvern.com/?p=7101#comment-28504 I saw this on DVD about a year ago an loved it. Diesel is great, Silver is great (he always was, even when he was slimy), the casting was dead on, the dialog flowed, a really well put together movie. You're 100% right about how it glossed over what these guys do when they're not in court, but I think the point was to make toy feel like the jury, to understand how they could get a pass on their lives of crime. Might have been nice if they'd found a way to show that, but it would have changed the whole tone of the movie. Show it early, and Jackie looks like an enormous weasel, and they need him to be a sympathetic character. Do it at the end, and it's a real buzz kill; the audience will feel cheated. Great review. I saw this on DVD about a year ago an loved it. Diesel is great, Silver is great (he always was, even when he was slimy), the casting was dead on, the dialog flowed, a really well put together movie. You’re 100% right about how it glossed over what these guys do when they’re not in court, but I think the point was to make toy feel like the jury, to understand how they could get a pass on their lives of crime. Might have been nice if they’d found a way to show that, but it would have changed the whole tone of the movie. Show it early, and Jackie looks like an enormous weasel, and they need him to be a sympathetic character. Do it at the end, and it’s a real buzz kill; the audience will feel cheated.

Great review.

]]> By: Jareth Cutestory http://outlawvern.com/2010/04/13/find-me-guilty/#comment-28503 Jareth Cutestory Wed, 14 Apr 2010 15:43:52 +0000 http://outlawvern.com/?p=7101#comment-28503 Obviously the only person who could arrest someone with the mad skills of Seagal would be ... Seagal himself! I just broke my own brain. Obviously the only person who could arrest someone with the mad skills of Seagal would be … Seagal himself!

I just broke my own brain.

]]> By: MDM http://outlawvern.com/2010/04/13/find-me-guilty/#comment-28498 MDM Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:47:51 +0000 http://outlawvern.com/?p=7101#comment-28498 Mr. Majestyk - Trials are by and large boring affairs for all involved, unless you are the defendant, then obviously you have an extreme vested interest. Tedius, repetitious, dry and completely uninvolving, that is a large portion of the time in a courtroom. Most compelling scenes in movies are not realistic, but Primal Fear did a decent job in the courtroom. I thoroughly enjoyed the way Friedkin cut the courtroom scenes in Rules of Engagement. 12 Angry Men, while not a courtroom scene is shown in the movie,is a pretty fantastic depiction of the jury process. However, most trial attorneys I know, including my old mentor, would say the most accurate courtroom depictions ever captured on celluloid are..... My Cousin Vinny. Seriously. So many attorneys show up in court and completely wing it, make shit up as they go and stumble across nuggets of gold blindly. Obviously Vinny is played a little more broadly for humor, but the underlying basis is fairly spot on. Mr. Majestyk –

Trials are by and large boring affairs for all involved, unless you are the defendant, then obviously you have an extreme vested interest. Tedius, repetitious, dry and completely uninvolving, that is a large portion of the time in a courtroom. Most compelling scenes in movies are not realistic, but Primal Fear did a decent job in the courtroom. I thoroughly enjoyed the way Friedkin cut the courtroom scenes in Rules of Engagement. 12 Angry Men, while not a courtroom scene is shown in the movie,is a pretty fantastic depiction of the jury process. However, most trial attorneys I know, including my old mentor, would say the most accurate courtroom depictions ever captured on celluloid are…..

My Cousin Vinny. Seriously. So many attorneys show up in court and completely wing it, make shit up as they go and stumble across nuggets of gold blindly. Obviously Vinny is played a little more broadly for humor, but the underlying basis is fairly spot on.

]]> By: Jot http://outlawvern.com/2010/04/13/find-me-guilty/#comment-28468 Jot Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:19:09 +0000 http://outlawvern.com/?p=7101#comment-28468 On Seagal's issue, yes he probably has deviant issues (what Celeb doesn't these days ), is he guilty of sexual harassment, possibly. (He has past form after all) But sex trafficking, well if it the accusations are true, why is the woman suing him in civil court and not criminal court ? One reason alone, money. I guess her plan is to get him to pay up to avoid the embarrassment of any tabloid friendly details coming out. Could you say she is 'Out for Justice', is he going to be 'Under Siege', or is she just going to be 'Marked For Death' or face a 'Seven Year Storm' ? (sorry couldn't help myself) On Seagal’s issue, yes he probably has deviant issues (what Celeb doesn’t these days ), is he guilty of sexual harassment, possibly. (He has past form after all)

But sex trafficking, well if it the accusations are true, why is the woman suing him in civil court and not criminal court ? One reason alone, money.

I guess her plan is to get him to pay up to avoid the embarrassment of any tabloid friendly details coming out.

Could you say she is ‘Out for Justice’, is he going to be ‘Under Siege’, or is she just going to be ‘Marked For Death’ or face a ‘Seven Year Storm’ ? (sorry couldn’t help myself)

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