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		<title>By: Patsy Mukherjee</title>
		<link>http://outlawvern.com/2010/03/18/collision-course/#comment-1068446</link>
		<dc:creator>Patsy Mukherjee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 09:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many thanks for the article, I have a lot of spray lining knowledge but always learn something new. Keep up the good work and thank you again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks for the article, I have a lot of spray lining knowledge but always learn something new. Keep up the good work and thank you again.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://outlawvern.com/2010/03/18/collision-course/#comment-25731</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as modern-day Jackie Chan movies go, nothing beats Robin B. Hood</description>
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		<title>By: RRA</title>
		<link>http://outlawvern.com/2010/03/18/collision-course/#comment-25549</link>
		<dc:creator>RRA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RUSH HOUR 3, nobody involved really honestly wanted or was inspired to be there except for the ridiculous paychecks they were given.

Shit even Jeff Nathanielson (whatever his name is) the scriptwriter got like I believe over 2 million bucks to &quot;write&quot; RH3, like how Kurtzman and his buddy &quot;wrote&quot; TRANSFORMERS 2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RUSH HOUR 3, nobody involved really honestly wanted or was inspired to be there except for the ridiculous paychecks they were given.</p>
<p>Shit even Jeff Nathanielson (whatever his name is) the scriptwriter got like I believe over 2 million bucks to &#8220;write&#8221; RH3, like how Kurtzman and his buddy &#8220;wrote&#8221; TRANSFORMERS 2.</p>
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		<title>By: PacmanFever</title>
		<link>http://outlawvern.com/2010/03/18/collision-course/#comment-25516</link>
		<dc:creator>PacmanFever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 09:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the &quot;Rush Hour&quot; sequels are terrible, and at the risk of annoying people I have to say Tucker is a big part of that. For &quot;Rush Hour 3&quot; Tucker was given a large fortune and was appearing on screen for the first time in over half a decade; he obviously decided to make up for lost time and the extortionate fee with volume, in all senses of the word. He&#039;s so overbearing in that film; loud, obnoxious and he doesn&#039;t stop for five seconds and when you think he&#039;s finally stopped he breaks into a rendition of fucking &quot;Kung-Fu Fighting&quot;. And it&#039;s not so much that his humour is xenophobic or racist or whatever, so much as it is mean spirited and at the expense of everyone on the planet who isn&#039;t Tucker/Carter. Granted, this could have all been down to the script and the direction, but for the most part it feels like they just said to Tucker &quot;do whatever the hell you want&quot; and he did. Don&#039;t get me wrong, I&#039;m not a &quot;Tucker hater&quot; or whatever you kids call it these days; I agree &quot;Money Talks&quot; is actually pretty cool and I even liked the clip of his early stand up I saw and I&#039;m not a stand up guy, and yeah it&#039;s good that he didn&#039;t cash in on his fame by making _loads_ of crap but I do honestly think a lot of the blame for the lousiness of the &quot;Rush&quot; sequels can be laid at his feet.

Also the &quot;Rush Hour&quot; films get increasingly leary in an adolescent manor, which is kind of creepy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the &#8220;Rush Hour&#8221; sequels are terrible, and at the risk of annoying people I have to say Tucker is a big part of that. For &#8220;Rush Hour 3&#8243; Tucker was given a large fortune and was appearing on screen for the first time in over half a decade; he obviously decided to make up for lost time and the extortionate fee with volume, in all senses of the word. He&#8217;s so overbearing in that film; loud, obnoxious and he doesn&#8217;t stop for five seconds and when you think he&#8217;s finally stopped he breaks into a rendition of fucking &#8220;Kung-Fu Fighting&#8221;. And it&#8217;s not so much that his humour is xenophobic or racist or whatever, so much as it is mean spirited and at the expense of everyone on the planet who isn&#8217;t Tucker/Carter. Granted, this could have all been down to the script and the direction, but for the most part it feels like they just said to Tucker &#8220;do whatever the hell you want&#8221; and he did. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I&#8217;m not a &#8220;Tucker hater&#8221; or whatever you kids call it these days; I agree &#8220;Money Talks&#8221; is actually pretty cool and I even liked the clip of his early stand up I saw and I&#8217;m not a stand up guy, and yeah it&#8217;s good that he didn&#8217;t cash in on his fame by making _loads_ of crap but I do honestly think a lot of the blame for the lousiness of the &#8220;Rush&#8221; sequels can be laid at his feet.</p>
<p>Also the &#8220;Rush Hour&#8221; films get increasingly leary in an adolescent manor, which is kind of creepy</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://outlawvern.com/2010/03/18/collision-course/#comment-25485</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 02:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone else remember the Jimmy Fallon bit where he super-imposed Conan&#039;s head onto Noonan&#039;s during the final car chase, so Morita is super fly-kicking Conan&#039;s ass, instead of the Tooth Fairy&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone else remember the Jimmy Fallon bit where he super-imposed Conan&#8217;s head onto Noonan&#8217;s during the final car chase, so Morita is super fly-kicking Conan&#8217;s ass, instead of the Tooth Fairy&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Chitown</title>
		<link>http://outlawvern.com/2010/03/18/collision-course/#comment-25479</link>
		<dc:creator>Chitown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 02:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris Tucker has done stand up in the last few years, I&#039;m not exactly sure when. Jamie Foxx was talking about it on his Foxxhole radio show. I wish I had it recorded because what he said was pretty funny and realistic. To make a long story short, he basically said that he was at this club when Chris was trying to get back into stand-up. He was telling jokes that only rich people could relate to. Jamie said he went through the same thing and he basically took Chris to the side after the show and explained that what he was doing wasn&#039;t going to work. Getting off topic a little, but Jamie Foxx true calling is radio. His riffs on the Foxxhole are better then his actual stand up and any comedy I&#039;ve ever seen him in. They are actually Dave Chappelle level good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris Tucker has done stand up in the last few years, I&#8217;m not exactly sure when. Jamie Foxx was talking about it on his Foxxhole radio show. I wish I had it recorded because what he said was pretty funny and realistic. To make a long story short, he basically said that he was at this club when Chris was trying to get back into stand-up. He was telling jokes that only rich people could relate to. Jamie said he went through the same thing and he basically took Chris to the side after the show and explained that what he was doing wasn&#8217;t going to work. Getting off topic a little, but Jamie Foxx true calling is radio. His riffs on the Foxxhole are better then his actual stand up and any comedy I&#8217;ve ever seen him in. They are actually Dave Chappelle level good.</p>
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		<title>By: neal2zod</title>
		<link>http://outlawvern.com/2010/03/18/collision-course/#comment-25467</link>
		<dc:creator>neal2zod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon guys - Red Dragon&#039;s climax was &quot;overblown&quot; and Manhunter&#039;s wasn&#039;t? I just trashed Ratner like 2 min. ago, but I have to give credit where it&#039;s due - The &quot;In a Gadda da Vida&quot; sequence, while &quot;cool&quot; is the very definition of overblown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon guys &#8211; Red Dragon&#8217;s climax was &#8220;overblown&#8221; and Manhunter&#8217;s wasn&#8217;t? I just trashed Ratner like 2 min. ago, but I have to give credit where it&#8217;s due &#8211; The &#8220;In a Gadda da Vida&#8221; sequence, while &#8220;cool&#8221; is the very definition of overblown.</p>
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		<title>By: neal2zod</title>
		<link>http://outlawvern.com/2010/03/18/collision-course/#comment-25465</link>
		<dc:creator>neal2zod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geoffreyjar - I pretty much agree with your assesment on Ratner&#039;s films, except I might be the only one on the planet who REALLY likes After the Sunset. It&#039;s Ratner&#039;s &quot;Jackie Brown&quot; if you will - content to be a minor character piece full of quiet moments with more mature characters that the simple &quot;heist&quot; film I was expecting. I think in promo pieces I heard Ratner describe it as a &quot;love story&quot; between Woody Harrelson and Pierce Brosnan, and I think going into it knowing that really put me in the right frame of mind to enjoy it. (Even though it&#039;s probably like saying there&#039;s love between Wile E. Coyote and The Roadrunner. Or Principal Rooney and Ferris Bueller)

Anyways, personally my dislike of Ratner didn&#039;t come from his (pretty decent) movies, but from various stories about him being a douche written everywhere. I think there was an article in Premiere magazine (if you remember that) that painted him as a completely deluded, arrogant ass. Did you ever see the Special Features on The Flight of the Phoenix DVD, where John Moore is running around kicking trashcans or some shit and yelling at people and basically acting like he&#039;s making Schindler&#039;s List? It&#039;s the same thing. Oh, and I think he was quoted as saying about The Family Man &quot;I want this movie to show everyone that even if you&#039;re ONLY making $50,000 a year, then that&#039;s OK&quot;, not thinking the average salary in America was like $22K at the time (probably still is). 

Oh, plus I think it&#039;s weird that his name is above the credits in huge font all the time like he&#039;s an actual box office draw, and that he had all these student films and special features about him on the Rush Hour 2 DVD. Seriously, who gives a rat&#039;s ass? I&#039;m not dying to see student films or director profiles from the guy who made All About the Benjamins or Next Day Air or whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoffreyjar &#8211; I pretty much agree with your assesment on Ratner&#8217;s films, except I might be the only one on the planet who REALLY likes After the Sunset. It&#8217;s Ratner&#8217;s &#8220;Jackie Brown&#8221; if you will &#8211; content to be a minor character piece full of quiet moments with more mature characters that the simple &#8220;heist&#8221; film I was expecting. I think in promo pieces I heard Ratner describe it as a &#8220;love story&#8221; between Woody Harrelson and Pierce Brosnan, and I think going into it knowing that really put me in the right frame of mind to enjoy it. (Even though it&#8217;s probably like saying there&#8217;s love between Wile E. Coyote and The Roadrunner. Or Principal Rooney and Ferris Bueller)</p>
<p>Anyways, personally my dislike of Ratner didn&#8217;t come from his (pretty decent) movies, but from various stories about him being a douche written everywhere. I think there was an article in Premiere magazine (if you remember that) that painted him as a completely deluded, arrogant ass. Did you ever see the Special Features on The Flight of the Phoenix DVD, where John Moore is running around kicking trashcans or some shit and yelling at people and basically acting like he&#8217;s making Schindler&#8217;s List? It&#8217;s the same thing. Oh, and I think he was quoted as saying about The Family Man &#8220;I want this movie to show everyone that even if you&#8217;re ONLY making $50,000 a year, then that&#8217;s OK&#8221;, not thinking the average salary in America was like $22K at the time (probably still is). </p>
<p>Oh, plus I think it&#8217;s weird that his name is above the credits in huge font all the time like he&#8217;s an actual box office draw, and that he had all these student films and special features about him on the Rush Hour 2 DVD. Seriously, who gives a rat&#8217;s ass? I&#8217;m not dying to see student films or director profiles from the guy who made All About the Benjamins or Next Day Air or whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent</title>
		<link>http://outlawvern.com/2010/03/18/collision-course/#comment-25464</link>
		<dc:creator>Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quick shot: the overblown climax of RED DRAGON is a faithful adapt of the book&#039;s climax. 

Which means that I&#039;m in the uncomfortable position of congratulating Hollywood for *toning down* a piece of literature and making a better story out of it. By the intervention of Michael MIAMI VICE Mann no less!

Maybe he had some THIEF sensibilities left in him, who knows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quick shot: the overblown climax of RED DRAGON is a faithful adapt of the book&#8217;s climax. </p>
<p>Which means that I&#8217;m in the uncomfortable position of congratulating Hollywood for *toning down* a piece of literature and making a better story out of it. By the intervention of Michael MIAMI VICE Mann no less!</p>
<p>Maybe he had some THIEF sensibilities left in him, who knows.</p>
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		<title>By: CC</title>
		<link>http://outlawvern.com/2010/03/18/collision-course/#comment-25458</link>
		<dc:creator>CC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Red Dragon is a truly fascinating example of how two directors, given the same basic story, some almost identical scenes, and even the same cinematographer (!!!) can still do things TOTALLY differantly.  My favorite example: Dolarhyde (Tom Noonan, Ralph Fiennes) seeing the guy (Frank Whaley in Red Dragon, some forgotten bit player in Manhunter) walking Reba (Joan Allen, girl from Chasing The Waves) home, hallucinating that they&#039;re lovers, and killing Whaley / actor x outside Reba&#039;s house.

The way Mann does it, it&#039;s one of the great scenes of 80s cinema.  Ratner&#039;s version is just, crude and obvious and graceless.  They&#039;re both competent directors who can get across what&#039;s going on in a scene and communicate it&#039;s various levels of meaning (which is not a given--I&#039;d argue that it&#039;s something Micheal Bay often cannot accomplish, visually or narratively) but Mann&#039;s version has STYLE!  Mann&#039;s is the work of an artist, whereas Ratner&#039;s is that of a tradesman, at best.  I can just imagine the DP setting up Ratner&#039;s version and rolling his eyes going, &quot;I-a remember how Micheal a-do thissa, eet wassa bella, but this ees fungol...&quot;

Oh, and Mann&#039;s film was originally going to be called Red Dragon, but they changed it because they were scared people would think it was a kung-fu movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red Dragon is a truly fascinating example of how two directors, given the same basic story, some almost identical scenes, and even the same cinematographer (!!!) can still do things TOTALLY differantly.  My favorite example: Dolarhyde (Tom Noonan, Ralph Fiennes) seeing the guy (Frank Whaley in Red Dragon, some forgotten bit player in Manhunter) walking Reba (Joan Allen, girl from Chasing The Waves) home, hallucinating that they&#8217;re lovers, and killing Whaley / actor x outside Reba&#8217;s house.</p>
<p>The way Mann does it, it&#8217;s one of the great scenes of 80s cinema.  Ratner&#8217;s version is just, crude and obvious and graceless.  They&#8217;re both competent directors who can get across what&#8217;s going on in a scene and communicate it&#8217;s various levels of meaning (which is not a given&#8211;I&#8217;d argue that it&#8217;s something Micheal Bay often cannot accomplish, visually or narratively) but Mann&#8217;s version has STYLE!  Mann&#8217;s is the work of an artist, whereas Ratner&#8217;s is that of a tradesman, at best.  I can just imagine the DP setting up Ratner&#8217;s version and rolling his eyes going, &#8220;I-a remember how Micheal a-do thissa, eet wassa bella, but this ees fungol&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, and Mann&#8217;s film was originally going to be called Red Dragon, but they changed it because they were scared people would think it was a kung-fu movie.</p>
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