Comments on: Precious, by Vern: Reviewed from the movie PRECIOUS, BASED ON THE NOVEL PUSH BY SAPPHIRE http://outlawvern.com/2010/02/04/precious-by-vern-reviewed-from-the-movie-precious-based-on-the-novel-push-by-sapphire/ Vern's writings on the films of cinema Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:19:45 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Mr. Subtlety http://outlawvern.com/2010/02/04/precious-by-vern-reviewed-from-the-movie-precious-based-on-the-novel-push-by-sapphire/#comment-53636 Mr. Subtlety Wed, 11 Aug 2010 21:26:50 +0000 http://outlawvern.com/?p=6687#comment-53636 Obi-Wan: "You don't want to sell me e-cigarettes." Cinthia: "I don't wanna sell you e-cigarettes." Obi-Wan: "You want to go home and rethink your life." Cinthia: "I wanna go home and rethink my life." Obi-Wan: “You don’t want to sell me e-cigarettes.”
Cinthia: “I don’t wanna sell you e-cigarettes.”
Obi-Wan: “You want to go home and rethink your life.”
Cinthia: “I wanna go home and rethink my life.”

]]> By: Cinthia Wactor http://outlawvern.com/2010/02/04/precious-by-vern-reviewed-from-the-movie-precious-based-on-the-novel-push-by-sapphire/#comment-53632 Cinthia Wactor Wed, 11 Aug 2010 21:19:26 +0000 http://outlawvern.com/?p=6687#comment-53632 I introduced myself to cancer sticks when I was in my teens. That was the biggest mistake I've made. Today I'm much older and I have COPD. Whilst attempting to quit smoking, I heard about the e-cigarettes and will see how it works. Hopefully, it will eventually assist me with this bad habit. I introduced myself to cancer sticks when I was in my teens. That was the biggest mistake I’ve made. Today I’m much older and I have COPD. Whilst attempting to quit smoking, I heard about the e-cigarettes and will see how it works. Hopefully, it will eventually assist me with this bad habit.

]]> By: White Girl http://outlawvern.com/2010/02/04/precious-by-vern-reviewed-from-the-movie-precious-based-on-the-novel-push-by-sapphire/#comment-24882 White Girl Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:22:46 +0000 http://outlawvern.com/?p=6687#comment-24882 DID ANYBODY SEE THE TEACHER IN THE MOVIE? She wasnt some dumb ignorant nig. She was working for her money. As for the rest of the cast... PERFECT Depiction of what black people are in inner the cities and... EVERYWHERE ELSE.. SERIOUSLY. For every "successful" black person there is, there are 100000 who are sucking the life out of my tax dollars to buy there fried chicken and CRACk... I didnt and would never pay to see this movie, borrowed it... I feel like the creator of this story owes me an hour and 51 minutes of my life back. Stupid movie. OH, And for everyone saying that the only people who can relate to this movie are ghetto nigs in the projects... YOU MAKE NO SENSE... Im not BLUE and I cant FLY but I enjoyed AVATAR immensely... This is Sam saying "I TOLD YOU SO" LATER! DID ANYBODY SEE THE TEACHER IN THE MOVIE? She wasnt some dumb ignorant nig. She was working for her money. As for the rest of the cast… PERFECT Depiction of what black people are in inner the cities and… EVERYWHERE ELSE.. SERIOUSLY. For every “successful” black person there is, there are 100000 who are sucking the life out of my tax dollars to buy there fried chicken and CRACk… I didnt and would never pay to see this movie, borrowed it… I feel like the creator of this story owes me an hour and 51 minutes of my life back. Stupid movie.

OH,
And for everyone saying that the only people who can relate to this movie are ghetto nigs in the projects… YOU MAKE NO SENSE… Im not BLUE and I cant FLY but I enjoyed AVATAR immensely…

This is Sam saying “I TOLD YOU SO”

LATER!

]]> By: Jimbolo http://outlawvern.com/2010/02/04/precious-by-vern-reviewed-from-the-movie-precious-based-on-the-novel-push-by-sapphire/#comment-20020 Jimbolo Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:27:21 +0000 http://outlawvern.com/?p=6687#comment-20020 To be fair, Clarence, if the director is savvy enough to include a scene where the teacher asks a question and the kid makes a funny analogy in order to address the criticisms of the novel, he must surely be aware of the racial stereotype that can be applied to seeing an obese black woman stealing a bucket of fried chicken (to eat for breakfast!) and running away laughing. Your 'I wonder why your mind went there' line = unfair. To be fair, Clarence, if the director is savvy enough to include a scene where the teacher asks a question and the kid makes a funny analogy in order to address the criticisms of the novel, he must surely be aware of the racial stereotype that can be applied to seeing an obese black woman stealing a bucket of fried chicken (to eat for breakfast!) and running away laughing.

Your ‘I wonder why your mind went there’ line = unfair.

]]> By: Vern http://outlawvern.com/2010/02/04/precious-by-vern-reviewed-from-the-movie-precious-based-on-the-novel-push-by-sapphire/#comment-19982 Vern Mon, 08 Feb 2010 02:31:01 +0000 http://outlawvern.com/?p=6687#comment-19982 Clarence - wait, what am I so shallow for not understanding? Why does society have problems that you know and I don't? I'm trying to understand. Clarence – wait, what am I so shallow for not understanding? Why does society have problems that you know and I don’t? I’m trying to understand.

]]> By: Clarence Anson Williams III http://outlawvern.com/2010/02/04/precious-by-vern-reviewed-from-the-movie-precious-based-on-the-novel-push-by-sapphire/#comment-19969 Clarence Anson Williams III Mon, 08 Feb 2010 00:48:04 +0000 http://outlawvern.com/?p=6687#comment-19969 Vern, you missed the boat, dude. The character was telling the social worker that "I like you, but you can't handle this" because that was the script's comment on the system. See, the system isn't made for dealing with this shit; it's only about presenting some government funded opportunities. At least that's how I see it. Because otherwise that dialogue (which was kind of mumbled as an after thought) is just too off-base considering how totally effective Mariah Carrey's character was shown to be (burnt out, yeah, but she layed it on the line: "You want money, you have to talk about what's happening at home"). It's just like the scene in the flick where the director addresses the criticism of the novel (and, most likely, the movie, too) when he has a completely (ssemingly) unimportant scene play out in which the teacher asks one of the students: "What does it mean when I say that the author presents the protagonists' story in an unrelenting fashion...?" and then the kid proceeds to make a funny analogy. The director is certainly taking a moment to flip off the novel's critics. You usually seem very sensitive to racial stuff...too sensitive, in fact. Do you have a problem seeing blacks eat fried chicken? I can assure you that they do. It has no bearing on human history--or movie history for that matter. I wonder why your mind went there...but missed most of the true layered moments that the movie presented concerning the importance of "community", nurtured imagination, and idea that the system requires participation in order to work. And you really, really don't get it when it comes to the mother: at the beginning, yeah she was merely a cinematic device as "the villain", but the point that is made at the end (and why the system "can't handle it") is that these are specific, individual problems that get passed on from generation to generation. It is SO fucking shallow for you to come away from that thinking that the mom was trying to sell Mariah a bill of good for foregiveness!!! What the fuck? Pull your head out of the action movies and think about WHY society has problems. Vern, you missed the boat, dude. The character was telling the social worker that “I like you, but you can’t handle this” because that was the script’s comment on the system. See, the system isn’t made for dealing with this shit; it’s only about presenting some government funded opportunities. At least that’s how I see it. Because otherwise that dialogue (which was kind of mumbled as an after thought) is just too off-base considering how totally effective Mariah Carrey’s character was shown to be (burnt out, yeah, but she layed it on the line: “You want money, you have to talk about what’s happening at home”).

It’s just like the scene in the flick where the director addresses the criticism of the novel (and, most likely, the movie, too) when he has a completely (ssemingly) unimportant scene play out in which the teacher asks one of the students: “What does it mean when I say that the author presents the protagonists’ story in an unrelenting fashion…?” and then the kid proceeds to make a funny analogy. The director is certainly taking a moment to flip off the novel’s critics.

You usually seem very sensitive to racial stuff…too sensitive, in fact. Do you have a problem seeing blacks eat fried chicken? I can assure you that they do. It has no bearing on human history–or movie history for that matter. I wonder why your mind went there…but missed most of the true layered moments that the movie presented concerning the importance of “community”, nurtured imagination, and idea that the system requires participation in order to work.

And you really, really don’t get it when it comes to the mother: at the beginning, yeah she was merely a cinematic device as “the villain”, but the point that is made at the end (and why the system “can’t handle it”) is that these are specific, individual problems that get passed on from generation to generation. It is SO fucking shallow for you to come away from that thinking that the mom was trying to sell Mariah a bill of good for foregiveness!!! What the fuck? Pull your head out of the action movies and think about WHY society has problems.

]]> By: Jimbolo http://outlawvern.com/2010/02/04/precious-by-vern-reviewed-from-the-movie-precious-based-on-the-novel-push-by-sapphire/#comment-19901 Jimbolo Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:26:51 +0000 http://outlawvern.com/?p=6687#comment-19901 Wow, I watched the whole of Precious thinking it was a true story. I really need to read the full names of films in future. The clue is in the title. That is quite shocking that the mother has gotten sympathy for her final scene. When she starts talking about Scorpios being tricky, that's our first clue that she hasn't cleaned up her act, even though she pretending things have changed. It reminded me of that 'you can't handle the truth' bit from A Few Good Men more than anything. Not something that's supposed to be sympathetic and more the villain losing control and dropping their act in public. Wow, I watched the whole of Precious thinking it was a true story. I really need to read the full names of films in future. The clue is in the title.

That is quite shocking that the mother has gotten sympathy for her final scene. When she starts talking about Scorpios being tricky, that’s our first clue that she hasn’t cleaned up her act, even though she pretending things have changed. It reminded me of that ‘you can’t handle the truth’ bit from A Few Good Men more than anything. Not something that’s supposed to be sympathetic and more the villain losing control and dropping their act in public.

]]> By: Dan Prestwich http://outlawvern.com/2010/02/04/precious-by-vern-reviewed-from-the-movie-precious-based-on-the-novel-push-by-sapphire/#comment-19760 Dan Prestwich Sat, 06 Feb 2010 01:30:02 +0000 http://outlawvern.com/?p=6687#comment-19760 I just can't believe that it's intended as parody. He has way too many normal reviews for that to be the case. I just can’t believe that it’s intended as parody. He has way too many normal reviews for that to be the case.

]]> By: Gwai Lo http://outlawvern.com/2010/02/04/precious-by-vern-reviewed-from-the-movie-precious-based-on-the-novel-push-by-sapphire/#comment-19757 Gwai Lo Sat, 06 Feb 2010 01:07:50 +0000 http://outlawvern.com/?p=6687#comment-19757 Does he know he's trolling though? Or is he some kind of idiot savant? Does he know he’s trolling though? Or is he some kind of idiot savant?

]]> By: Mr. Subtlety http://outlawvern.com/2010/02/04/precious-by-vern-reviewed-from-the-movie-precious-based-on-the-novel-push-by-sapphire/#comment-19747 Mr. Subtlety Fri, 05 Feb 2010 23:17:34 +0000 http://outlawvern.com/?p=6687#comment-19747 Guys, guys! Armond isn't meant to be taken seriously. He's the internet's most endlessly amusing troll. Even Ebert admitted as much. It's brilliant parody, but it's clearly parody. Frankbooth -- yeah, I did have that same reaction. But the reason I think REQUIEM, despite being kind of silly, is a bit less of a miscalculation than PRECIOUS is that it's kind of a issues movie. So driving home its point with a sledgehammer is at least driving home a point. With precious, the sledgehammer scenario seems to have made most people gloss over the fact that its (I think) actually supposed to be a character piece. REQUIEM is a fantastically crafted film, but it's pretty shallow and laughably overwrought in terms of its narrative. FOUNTAIN is much better and more enjoyable, though still not quite a home run. PI and WRESTLER, however, are both pretty epically fantastic. Guys, guys! Armond isn’t meant to be taken seriously. He’s the internet’s most endlessly amusing troll. Even Ebert admitted as much. It’s brilliant parody, but it’s clearly parody.

Frankbooth — yeah, I did have that same reaction. But the reason I think REQUIEM, despite being kind of silly, is a bit less of a miscalculation than PRECIOUS is that it’s kind of a issues movie. So driving home its point with a sledgehammer is at least driving home a point. With precious, the sledgehammer scenario seems to have made most people gloss over the fact that its (I think) actually supposed to be a character piece. REQUIEM is a fantastically crafted film, but it’s pretty shallow and laughably overwrought in terms of its narrative. FOUNTAIN is much better and more enjoyable, though still not quite a home run. PI and WRESTLER, however, are both pretty epically fantastic.

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