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		<title>By: Adolph Chomicki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adolph Chomicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 02:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ancient Romans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ancient Romans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy crap!  Return of the Living Dead covers this issue, too.  We saw it for the first, second, and third times a little over a year ago but had forgotten about it until we watched it again last night.  It&#039;s actually the punchline to the first scene.  Frank talks about a &quot;skeleton farm&quot; in India where they grow adult females with perfect white teeth.  So that&#039;s cool.

Also, we&#039;re worried that the will new Texas Chain Saw Massacre will emulate Part 2 but be humorless and Saw-like.  With Jackie Earle Haley as new less fun, more &quot;realistic&quot; Chop Top.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy crap!  Return of the Living Dead covers this issue, too.  We saw it for the first, second, and third times a little over a year ago but had forgotten about it until we watched it again last night.  It&#8217;s actually the punchline to the first scene.  Frank talks about a &#8220;skeleton farm&#8221; in India where they grow adult females with perfect white teeth.  So that&#8217;s cool.</p>
<p>Also, we&#8217;re worried that the will new Texas Chain Saw Massacre will emulate Part 2 but be humorless and Saw-like.  With Jackie Earle Haley as new less fun, more &#8220;realistic&#8221; Chop Top.</p>
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		<title>By: Bixby Snyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bixby Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 04:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Vern, isn&#039;t there some way to set up a link sponsorship progam with amazon or something for the movies you review, kinda like Harry does with his DVD-column over on the &#039;News? I remember you had something like that way back in the days, but the fuckers closed shop before they ever payed you, right? On the one hand, it might actually lead to impulsive buyings and stronger sales for great movies (Black Dynamite, I&#039;m looking in your direction), on the other hand, it could be a way for us to support your writings and for you to relax your working schedule a bit. I get so busy (or lazy) that I can hardly keep up with READING the amount of stuff you put up, let alone writing that much. Also, your readership seems to have grown a lot and nobody&#039;s gonna call you a sell-out around here, that&#039;s for damn sure...

On the topic of disfigured corpses, I saw von Hagen&#039;s exhibition when it caused quite a stir here in Germany and I wanted to see it for myself before hating on it. I kinda like to criticise stuff from an informed position, y&#039;know? Anyway, that shit shook me. Ethics aside (by now, there are thousands of people volunteering for that creep), I just don&#039;t enjoy seeing skinless pregnant women in pin-up poses with a split belly and the exposed fetus inside, if they are actual human beings and not props in a HELLRAISER movie. You can run school classes through that horror show as much as you like, but there&#039;s no denying that the guy is getting some sick kick out his undignified displays. He may be using the mantles of educational value, demystifying death or even art, but I&#039;m not buying it. There was this one display of the human digestive tract...it&#039;s one thing to show the esophagus, stomach and intestines of some guy for a paying audience, but if you feel the need to top that off with a lolling tongue on one end and a shrivelled, plastinated ASSHOLE on the other, you&#039;re really pushing it, Kane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Vern, isn&#8217;t there some way to set up a link sponsorship progam with amazon or something for the movies you review, kinda like Harry does with his DVD-column over on the &#8216;News? I remember you had something like that way back in the days, but the fuckers closed shop before they ever payed you, right? On the one hand, it might actually lead to impulsive buyings and stronger sales for great movies (Black Dynamite, I&#8217;m looking in your direction), on the other hand, it could be a way for us to support your writings and for you to relax your working schedule a bit. I get so busy (or lazy) that I can hardly keep up with READING the amount of stuff you put up, let alone writing that much. Also, your readership seems to have grown a lot and nobody&#8217;s gonna call you a sell-out around here, that&#8217;s for damn sure&#8230;</p>
<p>On the topic of disfigured corpses, I saw von Hagen&#8217;s exhibition when it caused quite a stir here in Germany and I wanted to see it for myself before hating on it. I kinda like to criticise stuff from an informed position, y&#8217;know? Anyway, that shit shook me. Ethics aside (by now, there are thousands of people volunteering for that creep), I just don&#8217;t enjoy seeing skinless pregnant women in pin-up poses with a split belly and the exposed fetus inside, if they are actual human beings and not props in a HELLRAISER movie. You can run school classes through that horror show as much as you like, but there&#8217;s no denying that the guy is getting some sick kick out his undignified displays. He may be using the mantles of educational value, demystifying death or even art, but I&#8217;m not buying it. There was this one display of the human digestive tract&#8230;it&#8217;s one thing to show the esophagus, stomach and intestines of some guy for a paying audience, but if you feel the need to top that off with a lolling tongue on one end and a shrivelled, plastinated ASSHOLE on the other, you&#8217;re really pushing it, Kane.</p>
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		<title>By: Fletcher Hanks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fletcher Hanks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 03:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, there are two of those weird-ass corpse exhibits, and the second one (also known as the &quot;copy cat&quot; one designed to cash in on the original) had a bit of trouble a couple years ago when the exhibits started LEAKING a mixture the weird oil that makes them possible &amp; liquified tissue!  And you just know that some poor museum custodian had to clean that shit up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, there are two of those weird-ass corpse exhibits, and the second one (also known as the &#8220;copy cat&#8221; one designed to cash in on the original) had a bit of trouble a couple years ago when the exhibits started LEAKING a mixture the weird oil that makes them possible &amp; liquified tissue!  And you just know that some poor museum custodian had to clean that shit up!</p>
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		<title>By: Jareth Cutestory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jareth Cutestory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the feedback, Vern. I didn&#039;t know that the &quot;not-a-reboot&quot; was going to be in 3-D. Funny how 3-D determines so much of what a movie will ultimately be.

Your &quot;belly of the beast&quot; remark underscores something that I really like about the original film: the actions of the kids aren&#039;t drawing the wrath of a violent redeemer (like Jason), or serving as instruments for someone&#039;s scheme of vengence (Freddy, Jigsaw), nor are they tempting the great supernatural beyond (Pinhead&#039;s posse). The CHAIN SAW kids are like unwitting explorers who walk into a lost tribe; the tribe exisits fully-formed in its behaviour and customs. Basically, the kids who stumble upon the family are disrupting an ecosystem. 

It would be a shame if that element of the original was lost, or if it was depicted in a heavy-handed way. You don&#039;t want to burden the family with too much theatricality. I think that was Hooper&#039;s genius in the first film: the family is horrific but somehow realized in a perfectly naturalistic way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the feedback, Vern. I didn&#8217;t know that the &#8220;not-a-reboot&#8221; was going to be in 3-D. Funny how 3-D determines so much of what a movie will ultimately be.</p>
<p>Your &#8220;belly of the beast&#8221; remark underscores something that I really like about the original film: the actions of the kids aren&#8217;t drawing the wrath of a violent redeemer (like Jason), or serving as instruments for someone&#8217;s scheme of vengence (Freddy, Jigsaw), nor are they tempting the great supernatural beyond (Pinhead&#8217;s posse). The CHAIN SAW kids are like unwitting explorers who walk into a lost tribe; the tribe exisits fully-formed in its behaviour and customs. Basically, the kids who stumble upon the family are disrupting an ecosystem. </p>
<p>It would be a shame if that element of the original was lost, or if it was depicted in a heavy-handed way. You don&#8217;t want to burden the family with too much theatricality. I think that was Hooper&#8217;s genius in the first film: the family is horrific but somehow realized in a perfectly naturalistic way.</p>
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		<title>By: Griff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Griff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder what Vern&#039;s job is?</description>
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		<title>By: Vern</title>
		<link>http://outlawvern.com/2009/10/29/texas-chain-saw-massacre-vs-contemporary-art/#comment-9838</link>
		<dc:creator>Vern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 07:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brendan - I&#039;m betting they&#039;re doing exactly what you say, an unexplained later adventure of the family like part 3 or part 4. But when you do that and you talk to Variety or the Hollywood Reporter or a websight about it they gotta fuckin start saying &quot;reboot.&quot; They love the word &quot;reboot.&quot; They use it for remakes, sequels, prequels, you name it. Pretty soon new movies will also be reboots just so they can use that word even more.

Jareth - because this is in 3-D, I think part 2 should be the model, because if they were gonna convert them all to 3-D I think part 2 would be the coolest. The original is a masterpiece of imagined violence, but if you&#039;re making this in 3-D and you don&#039;t have body parts flying it&#039;s a waste. So I think it should be ridiculously gory, but in an &quot;oh shit!&quot; &#039;80s kind of way, not a &quot;I have to take a shower&quot; 2000s way. I don&#039;t think the family should be in the background, except maybe in the first third or so. I think you gotta follow the Texas Chain Saw tradition of dropping the protagonists into the belly of the beast and it&#039;s a total nightmare until they escape into the daylight at the end.

As for Hooper not being able to get that Hooper weirdness, check out his &quot;remake&quot; of THE TOOLBOX MURDERS. It definitely has weirdness that only he could do. Of course, that&#039;s six years ago, but hopefully we haven&#039;t seen the last of him. (MORTUARY&#039;s not too bad either.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brendan &#8211; I&#8217;m betting they&#8217;re doing exactly what you say, an unexplained later adventure of the family like part 3 or part 4. But when you do that and you talk to Variety or the Hollywood Reporter or a websight about it they gotta fuckin start saying &#8220;reboot.&#8221; They love the word &#8220;reboot.&#8221; They use it for remakes, sequels, prequels, you name it. Pretty soon new movies will also be reboots just so they can use that word even more.</p>
<p>Jareth &#8211; because this is in 3-D, I think part 2 should be the model, because if they were gonna convert them all to 3-D I think part 2 would be the coolest. The original is a masterpiece of imagined violence, but if you&#8217;re making this in 3-D and you don&#8217;t have body parts flying it&#8217;s a waste. So I think it should be ridiculously gory, but in an &#8220;oh shit!&#8221; &#8217;80s kind of way, not a &#8220;I have to take a shower&#8221; 2000s way. I don&#8217;t think the family should be in the background, except maybe in the first third or so. I think you gotta follow the Texas Chain Saw tradition of dropping the protagonists into the belly of the beast and it&#8217;s a total nightmare until they escape into the daylight at the end.</p>
<p>As for Hooper not being able to get that Hooper weirdness, check out his &#8220;remake&#8221; of THE TOOLBOX MURDERS. It definitely has weirdness that only he could do. Of course, that&#8217;s six years ago, but hopefully we haven&#8217;t seen the last of him. (MORTUARY&#8217;s not too bad either.)</p>
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		<title>By: CallMeKermiT</title>
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		<dc:creator>CallMeKermiT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 07:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah , I can hire you , caruso . You will handle those fucking midget trees , and don&#039;t forget to sing and talk to them ! And stay away from my chainsaw and my heavy-metal CDs !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah , I can hire you , caruso . You will handle those fucking midget trees , and don&#8217;t forget to sing and talk to them ! And stay away from my chainsaw and my heavy-metal CDs !</p>
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		<title>By: CallMeKermiT</title>
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		<dc:creator>CallMeKermiT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 06:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hamslime : Yes , we&#039;re very close . I&#039;m really lucky .It seems like an Italian Mobsters movie stereotype , but it&#039;s true , we watch movies together , play videogames and boardgames together and we constantly exchange books. As a matter of fact , the chainsaw I was talking about up there is a gift from my aunt and my family , because I was always talking about how cool it would be if I had one , like Ash . You can imagine the stupid grin in my face when I received that !

And don&#039;t talk to me about bonsai , they&#039;re a pain in the ass ! I hate those little fuckers ! We sell a couple every year , we don&#039;t actually make them , but you need to be extra careful when watering them because the pot is so small . They don&#039;t like to stay indoor and some gardeners even say that they like music or background noise . Yeah , you like Iron Maiden , you little shithead ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hamslime : Yes , we&#8217;re very close . I&#8217;m really lucky .It seems like an Italian Mobsters movie stereotype , but it&#8217;s true , we watch movies together , play videogames and boardgames together and we constantly exchange books. As a matter of fact , the chainsaw I was talking about up there is a gift from my aunt and my family , because I was always talking about how cool it would be if I had one , like Ash . You can imagine the stupid grin in my face when I received that !</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t talk to me about bonsai , they&#8217;re a pain in the ass ! I hate those little fuckers ! We sell a couple every year , we don&#8217;t actually make them , but you need to be extra careful when watering them because the pot is so small . They don&#8217;t like to stay indoor and some gardeners even say that they like music or background noise . Yeah , you like Iron Maiden , you little shithead ?</p>
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		<title>By: caruso_stalker217</title>
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		<dc:creator>caruso_stalker217</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 06:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Wal-Mart life isn&#039;t so bad.  Like when I have to empty the machines in the bottle recycling center and all the rednecks have put their Mountain Dew bottles full of tobacco spit through the machines and they get crushed and there&#039;s tobacco shit all over inside the bins and on my hands.

You know, on second thought, changing careers wouldn&#039;t be such a bad idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Wal-Mart life isn&#8217;t so bad.  Like when I have to empty the machines in the bottle recycling center and all the rednecks have put their Mountain Dew bottles full of tobacco spit through the machines and they get crushed and there&#8217;s tobacco shit all over inside the bins and on my hands.</p>
<p>You know, on second thought, changing careers wouldn&#8217;t be such a bad idea.</p>
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