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	<title>Comments on: New poster for THE MEN WHO STARE AT GOATS</title>
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		<title>By: Steven Seagal is The Keeper &#124; The Life and Art of Vern</title>
		<link>http://outlawvern.com/2009/09/17/new-poster-for-the-men-who-stare-at-goats/#comment-11622</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Seagal is The Keeper &#124; The Life and Art of Vern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I swear, with one of these movies they&#8217;re accidentally gonna make it exactly the same as my cover, even more than THE MEN WHO STARE AT GOATS. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: GoodBadGroovy</title>
		<link>http://outlawvern.com/2009/09/17/new-poster-for-the-men-who-stare-at-goats/#comment-11615</link>
		<dc:creator>GoodBadGroovy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought it was pretty poor to be honest.  

There was stuff I liked, it made me laugh a fair bit, Clooney is always great and  Jeff Bridges was actually pretty astounding and far better than the film deserves.  His physical acting - compare him in the modern day with his awkward movements and downcast eyes to his youthful days with flowing movements etc - was exceptional.  Also I really liked the flashback stuff. 

But the real problem came with the &#039;modern&#039; story they built around it and took up way too much of the film. Firstly we&#039;re stuck with a main character that&#039;s incredibly bland but we&#039;re meant to be involved in his own attempts to prove himself after breaking up with a girl....ZZZZzzzzz.  It meandered all over the place and the middle of the film really dragged because the plot didnt&#039; seem to have anywhere to go.  McGregor&#039;s accent was very forced and annoying and he was stuck with some of the worst dialogue, a pretty rubbish narration and an incredible bland character we&#039;re meant to care about?  

Oh and the ending was quite rubbish as well.  The last few lines being particularly cringe worthy as Ewan runs through the wall.  Gah i&#039;m cringing just thinking about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought it was pretty poor to be honest.  </p>
<p>There was stuff I liked, it made me laugh a fair bit, Clooney is always great and  Jeff Bridges was actually pretty astounding and far better than the film deserves.  His physical acting &#8211; compare him in the modern day with his awkward movements and downcast eyes to his youthful days with flowing movements etc &#8211; was exceptional.  Also I really liked the flashback stuff. </p>
<p>But the real problem came with the &#8216;modern&#8217; story they built around it and took up way too much of the film. Firstly we&#8217;re stuck with a main character that&#8217;s incredibly bland but we&#8217;re meant to be involved in his own attempts to prove himself after breaking up with a girl&#8230;.ZZZZzzzzz.  It meandered all over the place and the middle of the film really dragged because the plot didnt&#8217; seem to have anywhere to go.  McGregor&#8217;s accent was very forced and annoying and he was stuck with some of the worst dialogue, a pretty rubbish narration and an incredible bland character we&#8217;re meant to care about?  </p>
<p>Oh and the ending was quite rubbish as well.  The last few lines being particularly cringe worthy as Ewan runs through the wall.  Gah i&#8217;m cringing just thinking about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://outlawvern.com/2009/09/17/new-poster-for-the-men-who-stare-at-goats/#comment-11613</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that was just the way they cut the trailer, but I can&#039;t really remember.  I think the movie actually could have used some more of that same kind of serious take on stuff.  To often he went in for the wacky gag over emotional truth, which kind of dragged the movie down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that was just the way they cut the trailer, but I can&#8217;t really remember.  I think the movie actually could have used some more of that same kind of serious take on stuff.  To often he went in for the wacky gag over emotional truth, which kind of dragged the movie down.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Subtley</title>
		<link>http://outlawvern.com/2009/09/17/new-poster-for-the-men-who-stare-at-goats/#comment-11611</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Subtley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brendan -- yeah, thats one of the things that pleasantly surprised me about the movie -- they tend to take what by every right should be throwaway jokes and treat their emotional content seriously.

Also, if memory serves, isn&#039;t there a scene in the trailer where they line up a bunch of goats and have him try to kill a particular one (and he succeeds in killing the next one over)? That&#039;s not in the movie at all. One of the things that makes me wonder if there&#039;s a longer cut out there somewhere that might have a little more oomph to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brendan &#8212; yeah, thats one of the things that pleasantly surprised me about the movie &#8212; they tend to take what by every right should be throwaway jokes and treat their emotional content seriously.</p>
<p>Also, if memory serves, isn&#8217;t there a scene in the trailer where they line up a bunch of goats and have him try to kill a particular one (and he succeeds in killing the next one over)? That&#8217;s not in the movie at all. One of the things that makes me wonder if there&#8217;s a longer cut out there somewhere that might have a little more oomph to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://outlawvern.com/2009/09/17/new-poster-for-the-men-who-stare-at-goats/#comment-11594</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did it strike anyone else as funny that Clooney killing the goat has been used as a punchline in every single trailer, but then in the movie itself, him doing that is supposed to be this horrible tragedy that has haunted him for decades?  That was funny to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did it strike anyone else as funny that Clooney killing the goat has been used as a punchline in every single trailer, but then in the movie itself, him doing that is supposed to be this horrible tragedy that has haunted him for decades?  That was funny to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh man that stinks Vern.  My audience was into it from minute one, laughing and clapping the whole time.  So that might be playing with my reaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh man that stinks Vern.  My audience was into it from minute one, laughing and clapping the whole time.  So that might be playing with my reaction.</p>
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		<title>By: Jam</title>
		<link>http://outlawvern.com/2009/09/17/new-poster-for-the-men-who-stare-at-goats/#comment-11583</link>
		<dc:creator>Jam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The documentary series was excellent, here&#039;s a clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKgilR4rIY0

Didn&#039;t like the film much. Didn&#039;t dislike it, but Ewan McGregor&#039;s terrible, terrible accent just took me out of it every time he spoke. Saw Haneke&#039;s THE WHITE RIBBON last night, hoping you&#039;ll review it in the future Vern!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The documentary series was excellent, here&#8217;s a clip: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKgilR4rIY0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKgilR4rIY0</a></p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t like the film much. Didn&#8217;t dislike it, but Ewan McGregor&#8217;s terrible, terrible accent just took me out of it every time he spoke. Saw Haneke&#8217;s THE WHITE RIBBON last night, hoping you&#8217;ll review it in the future Vern!</p>
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		<title>By: Vern</title>
		<link>http://outlawvern.com/2009/09/17/new-poster-for-the-men-who-stare-at-goats/#comment-11576</link>
		<dc:creator>Vern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I saw it but didn&#039;t feel strongly enough to even write a review. It&#039;s one of those true story movies that was reasonably entertaining but just made me think that I&#039;d rather read the book or see a documentary about what really happened.

When I saw it it was one of those square crowds where you can tell nobody goes out to the movies much because they laugh at the terrible jokes in the advertisements. And then it kind of hurts the movie for me because even though it&#039;s not unfunny or anything people are laughing what seems to me like way too hard at the jokes and it makes me uncomfortable.

Anyway, I bring this up because during the movie they keep using the word Jedi, and I guess because Ewan Macgregor is in the movie and he played Obi Wan everybody would laugh when they said it. After this happened a couple times some guy in the theater says, &quot;I don&#039;t get it.&quot; And his friend starts explaining, &quot;Ewan Macgregor played Obi Wan, blah blah blah.&quot;

Later in the movie there&#039;s a reference to Angela Lansbury, and I swear to you that a woman on my row, who was at an age where it is not possible that she managed to avoid Murder She Wrote for her entire life, asked at a normal volume who Angela Lansbury was. And her husband or boyfriend proceeded to explain at length and not quietly what different shows and movies Angela Lansbury is primarily known for. None of them rang a bell for her.

The movie wasn&#039;t bad, but that stuff stuck in my mind more. Also it was directed by the Scorpion King&#039;s sidekick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I saw it but didn&#8217;t feel strongly enough to even write a review. It&#8217;s one of those true story movies that was reasonably entertaining but just made me think that I&#8217;d rather read the book or see a documentary about what really happened.</p>
<p>When I saw it it was one of those square crowds where you can tell nobody goes out to the movies much because they laugh at the terrible jokes in the advertisements. And then it kind of hurts the movie for me because even though it&#8217;s not unfunny or anything people are laughing what seems to me like way too hard at the jokes and it makes me uncomfortable.</p>
<p>Anyway, I bring this up because during the movie they keep using the word Jedi, and I guess because Ewan Macgregor is in the movie and he played Obi Wan everybody would laugh when they said it. After this happened a couple times some guy in the theater says, &#8220;I don&#8217;t get it.&#8221; And his friend starts explaining, &#8220;Ewan Macgregor played Obi Wan, blah blah blah.&#8221;</p>
<p>Later in the movie there&#8217;s a reference to Angela Lansbury, and I swear to you that a woman on my row, who was at an age where it is not possible that she managed to avoid Murder She Wrote for her entire life, asked at a normal volume who Angela Lansbury was. And her husband or boyfriend proceeded to explain at length and not quietly what different shows and movies Angela Lansbury is primarily known for. None of them rang a bell for her.</p>
<p>The movie wasn&#8217;t bad, but that stuff stuck in my mind more. Also it was directed by the Scorpion King&#8217;s sidekick.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a light movie.  I was surprised by just how light Heslov played a lot of it.  I think if he had actually allowed Spacey&#039;s bastardization of the Jedi way for profit to have real weight, it would have redeemed most of the film&#039;s weaker points.  I guess I liked McGregor more then you (and most other reviewers), I thought he was really funny, and he convincingly played that wimpy guy, and did a good job playing that guy&#039;s growth (also credit to them for allowing Clooney and McGregor to grow and improve by degrees, not having some random Sandra Bullock being cured of racism by falling on her ass dramatic epiphany).  I think the thing that sold me on him was the narration, where he just maintains this constant upbeat tone, and always finds the most hilariously overwrought way possible (&quot;But into this garden came a serpent!&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a light movie.  I was surprised by just how light Heslov played a lot of it.  I think if he had actually allowed Spacey&#8217;s bastardization of the Jedi way for profit to have real weight, it would have redeemed most of the film&#8217;s weaker points.  I guess I liked McGregor more then you (and most other reviewers), I thought he was really funny, and he convincingly played that wimpy guy, and did a good job playing that guy&#8217;s growth (also credit to them for allowing Clooney and McGregor to grow and improve by degrees, not having some random Sandra Bullock being cured of racism by falling on her ass dramatic epiphany).  I think the thing that sold me on him was the narration, where he just maintains this constant upbeat tone, and always finds the most hilariously overwrought way possible (&#8221;But into this garden came a serpent!&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Subtlety</title>
		<link>http://outlawvern.com/2009/09/17/new-poster-for-the-men-who-stare-at-goats/#comment-11569</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Subtlety</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, one of the things that impressed and surprised me about the movie is that it actually really seems to like the Jedi. They are such easy targets in some ways that it would be a simple matter to make a movie mocking their dumb hippy beliefs. But the movie doesn&#039;t really see it that way; while they may be kind of stupid and ridiculous, the movie wants us to remember that the old military-industrial complex is just as stupid, but a lot meaner. Maybe they Jedi are deluded dreamers, but they&#039;re genuine believers in something which is much kinder and more humane. Sure, it may not work all that well, but then, how well does traditional violence work, in the end? That&#039;s why its so important to have Iraq in there -- to remind us that the supposedly more realistic killers are actually just as ineffective, and a whole lot uglier. 

So there&#039;s plenty to think about, and I admire a lot about it, including its commitment to connect with recent history and to consider the moral underpinnings of organized violence. I just found the film itself a little on the sleight side, unfortunately; not quite funny enough or quite dramatic enough to really have much staying power. I wonder if there&#039;s another possible edit which might have added enough to pull it off? I&#039;d definitely love to see a longer director&#039;s cut with a little more meat in there, either comedy or drama. McGregor&#039;s kind of unfunny, though (IMHO), which makes him an ineffective foil, so that may be a key stumbling point. Its not that he&#039;s bad, he just plays it pretty straight, and ends up kind of absorbing a lot of Clooney&#039;s fucking awesome crazy, rather than enhancing it. I&#039;d love for that role to go to a better comedic actor, someone who could make the reactions funnier. When McGregor gets pissed and freaks out, he seems genuinely mad, which is kind of a buzzkill and not all that funny either. Heslov is new at directing so I think he&#039;ll get better at drawing the RIGHT performance out of actors in the future (not just a good one).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, one of the things that impressed and surprised me about the movie is that it actually really seems to like the Jedi. They are such easy targets in some ways that it would be a simple matter to make a movie mocking their dumb hippy beliefs. But the movie doesn&#8217;t really see it that way; while they may be kind of stupid and ridiculous, the movie wants us to remember that the old military-industrial complex is just as stupid, but a lot meaner. Maybe they Jedi are deluded dreamers, but they&#8217;re genuine believers in something which is much kinder and more humane. Sure, it may not work all that well, but then, how well does traditional violence work, in the end? That&#8217;s why its so important to have Iraq in there &#8212; to remind us that the supposedly more realistic killers are actually just as ineffective, and a whole lot uglier. </p>
<p>So there&#8217;s plenty to think about, and I admire a lot about it, including its commitment to connect with recent history and to consider the moral underpinnings of organized violence. I just found the film itself a little on the sleight side, unfortunately; not quite funny enough or quite dramatic enough to really have much staying power. I wonder if there&#8217;s another possible edit which might have added enough to pull it off? I&#8217;d definitely love to see a longer director&#8217;s cut with a little more meat in there, either comedy or drama. McGregor&#8217;s kind of unfunny, though (IMHO), which makes him an ineffective foil, so that may be a key stumbling point. Its not that he&#8217;s bad, he just plays it pretty straight, and ends up kind of absorbing a lot of Clooney&#8217;s fucking awesome crazy, rather than enhancing it. I&#8217;d love for that role to go to a better comedic actor, someone who could make the reactions funnier. When McGregor gets pissed and freaks out, he seems genuinely mad, which is kind of a buzzkill and not all that funny either. Heslov is new at directing so I think he&#8217;ll get better at drawing the RIGHT performance out of actors in the future (not just a good one).</p>
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