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<p>[...]True Lies | The Life and Art of Vern[...]&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://outlawvern.com/2007/07/25/true-lies/#comment-935195</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 07:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ALSO, apparently Arnold had invited some friends to the set one day, and took a break to show them around Georgetown....James Cameron had a massive meltdown and completely flipped out on Arnold, screaming &quot;Would you rather have Paul Verhoeven direct this??? Go get Verhoeven!!!&quot;

I would have loved to have seen that argument in person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ALSO, apparently Arnold had invited some friends to the set one day, and took a break to show them around Georgetown&#8230;.James Cameron had a massive meltdown and completely flipped out on Arnold, screaming &#8220;Would you rather have Paul Verhoeven direct this??? Go get Verhoeven!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>I would have loved to have seen that argument in person.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://outlawvern.com/2007/07/25/true-lies/#comment-70274</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 06:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the greatest action movies ever made, I still regard the bathroom fight/shootout and subsequent horse/motorcycle chase the greatest extended action sequence of all-time (which I don&#039;t know if you&#039;ve ever listed but I&#039;d like to read if you do/have.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the greatest action movies ever made, I still regard the bathroom fight/shootout and subsequent horse/motorcycle chase the greatest extended action sequence of all-time (which I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;ve ever listed but I&#8217;d like to read if you do/have.)</p>
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		<title>By: FTopel</title>
		<link>http://outlawvern.com/2007/07/25/true-lies/#comment-44334</link>
		<dc:creator>FTopel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 01:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always found the misogyny claims about this movie to be misplaced. 1) It is just a movie. Come on. Not that movie&#039;s shouldn&#039;t be held accountable for bad values, but sometimes you&#039;re just really looking for something. 2) So what if it is? Mr. Strong Female Heroes can&#039;t make one movie where he plays with it? 3) It&#039;s all men saying it. I&#039;ve never talked to a woman who was offended by this movie. In fact, women love this movie. Women who like action movies love it and women who usually don&#039;t watch action movies love it. They think it&#039;s funny and cute and love the Jamie Lee Curtis dance. So if only men are defending women&#039;s honor about this, it seems like a little misguided outrage. Granted, if it weren&#039;t so awesome, I might not want to defend it so much.

An important contextual note also is that this was Arnold&#039;s first movie after Last Action Hero. He could have played it safe and not done another comedy. I heard Cameron had to sell him on it. But showing he could do it right was a big deal. Also, this movie came out within a week of Forrest Gump and I think True Lies holds up much better 16 years later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always found the misogyny claims about this movie to be misplaced. 1) It is just a movie. Come on. Not that movie&#8217;s shouldn&#8217;t be held accountable for bad values, but sometimes you&#8217;re just really looking for something. 2) So what if it is? Mr. Strong Female Heroes can&#8217;t make one movie where he plays with it? 3) It&#8217;s all men saying it. I&#8217;ve never talked to a woman who was offended by this movie. In fact, women love this movie. Women who like action movies love it and women who usually don&#8217;t watch action movies love it. They think it&#8217;s funny and cute and love the Jamie Lee Curtis dance. So if only men are defending women&#8217;s honor about this, it seems like a little misguided outrage. Granted, if it weren&#8217;t so awesome, I might not want to defend it so much.</p>
<p>An important contextual note also is that this was Arnold&#8217;s first movie after Last Action Hero. He could have played it safe and not done another comedy. I heard Cameron had to sell him on it. But showing he could do it right was a big deal. Also, this movie came out within a week of Forrest Gump and I think True Lies holds up much better 16 years later.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://outlawvern.com/2007/07/25/true-lies/#comment-26933</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 23:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m middle-eastern and I love this movie. And I&#039;m not apologizing, it is awfully mean-spirited. But I love that about it.

And the bathroom fight was in the Georgetown Park shopping mall in DC. Just thought I&#039;d add that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m middle-eastern and I love this movie. And I&#8217;m not apologizing, it is awfully mean-spirited. But I love that about it.</p>
<p>And the bathroom fight was in the Georgetown Park shopping mall in DC. Just thought I&#8217;d add that.</p>
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		<title>By: neal2zod</title>
		<link>http://outlawvern.com/2007/07/25/true-lies/#comment-12379</link>
		<dc:creator>neal2zod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could never really formulate why I felt weird about the Arab villiains until I read this review: Vern hit the nail right on the head - the comical, Looney-Tunes, subhuman depiction of them really does leave a bad taste in the mouth - moreso than if they were just normal serious baddies. (With the film&#039;s other nods to the Bond series, it does seem surprising Cameron didn&#039;t go for a stronger, Bond-like villain instead of some poor schmo). 

I&#039;m not of Middle Eastern descent so my opinion of what is and is not offensive doesn&#039;t really count - but in my selfish opinion Executive Decision did it right - the villains weren&#039;t ridiculously cartoony or over-the-top, but they also weren&#039;t whitewashed or stripped of character to make them generic. The infighting between the terrorists about &quot;this is not what Allah wants&quot; also worked well as the &quot;we know you guys aren&#039;t all like this&quot; disclaimer, but in an organic way that didn&#039;t feel tacked on. Plus Executive Decision trusted the audience and didn&#039;t feel the need to add the &quot;good Arab&quot; character.

Speaking of which - I&#039;m curious to know what the action fans on here think of the token &quot;good ethnic character&quot; staple Vern mentions above. I&#039;m still conflicted on whether it&#039;s more or less offensive than leaving the character out. I&#039;d say the best example of this character done properly is Tony Shalhoub in The Siege or the guy in The Kingdom. And the worst has to be the Asian cops who suddenly show up in Lethal Weapon 4 (even though we&#039;ve never seen them before). Nothing like throwing an Asian face in there to excuse the &quot;flied lice&quot; jokes and then have Mel Gibson continue to make short people jokes to their face. At least Arnold and Tom didn&#039;t make falafel jokes to their sidekick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could never really formulate why I felt weird about the Arab villiains until I read this review: Vern hit the nail right on the head &#8211; the comical, Looney-Tunes, subhuman depiction of them really does leave a bad taste in the mouth &#8211; moreso than if they were just normal serious baddies. (With the film&#8217;s other nods to the Bond series, it does seem surprising Cameron didn&#8217;t go for a stronger, Bond-like villain instead of some poor schmo). </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not of Middle Eastern descent so my opinion of what is and is not offensive doesn&#8217;t really count &#8211; but in my selfish opinion Executive Decision did it right &#8211; the villains weren&#8217;t ridiculously cartoony or over-the-top, but they also weren&#8217;t whitewashed or stripped of character to make them generic. The infighting between the terrorists about &#8220;this is not what Allah wants&#8221; also worked well as the &#8220;we know you guys aren&#8217;t all like this&#8221; disclaimer, but in an organic way that didn&#8217;t feel tacked on. Plus Executive Decision trusted the audience and didn&#8217;t feel the need to add the &#8220;good Arab&#8221; character.</p>
<p>Speaking of which &#8211; I&#8217;m curious to know what the action fans on here think of the token &#8220;good ethnic character&#8221; staple Vern mentions above. I&#8217;m still conflicted on whether it&#8217;s more or less offensive than leaving the character out. I&#8217;d say the best example of this character done properly is Tony Shalhoub in The Siege or the guy in The Kingdom. And the worst has to be the Asian cops who suddenly show up in Lethal Weapon 4 (even though we&#8217;ve never seen them before). Nothing like throwing an Asian face in there to excuse the &#8220;flied lice&#8221; jokes and then have Mel Gibson continue to make short people jokes to their face. At least Arnold and Tom didn&#8217;t make falafel jokes to their sidekick.</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
		<link>http://outlawvern.com/2007/07/25/true-lies/#comment-1385</link>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have the strongest urge to watch this one again lately. being a younger guy, i watched the hell out of this as a kid (it was around &#039;95 right? ya i was a kid).

even with as many ridiculous action scenes and failed jokes, it&#039;s still a hell of a great action movie, and i dare you to find anything this solid coming out these days. excluding Iron Man i guess, but i still think i like this one better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have the strongest urge to watch this one again lately. being a younger guy, i watched the hell out of this as a kid (it was around &#8216;95 right? ya i was a kid).</p>
<p>even with as many ridiculous action scenes and failed jokes, it&#8217;s still a hell of a great action movie, and i dare you to find anything this solid coming out these days. excluding Iron Man i guess, but i still think i like this one better.</p>
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